VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Holy Bacchus]

I agree with you and also remember that the Logan/Ellie line will split into 3 and somehow Sophia is involved so perhaps Logan does pressure Ellie into having sex or Ellie lets slip that she is a virgin and Logan tells everybody.
A lobotomy would probably help the brother to be not so crude or too clumsy in his approach or a baseball ball to the head may knock some sense into him,as 90%of the time he has not got a clue stumbles blindly a round.

For people who aren't on the Ellie/incest/lesbian path (a.ka. the boring Good Wife path), then she probably will lose her virginity to Logan since I guess Sophia isn't doing much to discourage it and Ellie hasn't gone down the lesbian path with Julia and also isn't having her "reconnecting" side story with Dylan. But for those on the Ellie/lesbian/incest path with the Dylan side story, I think that either Logan's pressure will be too much for her and she'll break things off with him or he'll prove himself to not be right for her by either blabbing about her virginity or not being kind to her about it causing them to break up.

Yes, Dylan is an idiot and it's probably too much to hope that he turns it all around in a few short in-game days such that he shows a level of maturity and caring for his sister that makes her want to jump his bones, but I think that line will be significant and I'd like to hope it refers to Dylan.

I also believe that Ellie will lose her virginity with either Sophia (using a dildo.. a strap-on looks too much for two newcomers in the lesbian world) or Dylan (if the event when he fixed her computer was really the beginning of the path that will take them to the double incest we mentioned a few days ago, and it would require an active/leading role of Sophia there).

Whilst I'm sure it would meet the specifications of "something special and with the right one" if she did it with Sophia first, I'd really like to see it be with Dylan. Seeing the evolution of their relationship from antagonistic to lovingly sexual would be great and I think it's more powerful than her and Sophia doing it for Ellie's first time. It would be a good way to end this side story too (which I believe is supposed to have about 8 events and so far we've had 1) and I don't think Sophia needs to play any active role in it either as it could be even better if she were to see them but not stop them because by that point she's done a lot more with each of them and is maybe even somewhat pleased to see them doing it.

 

[Kodek]

Only if they were just teasing each other. But if that were the case, then it doesn't explain why in some cases still, Ellie shows her dislike for Dylan when talking to Sophia. While it's only for the boarding school route, in the last update Ellie specifically comments on how she's enjoying the peace and quiet with Dylan not being around.

That's why I still believe that the bonus storyline isn't about setting Dylan up with Ellie, but explaining what he did that was so abhorrent for her to dislike him so much. And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

Yeah, i feel the same everytime i see Ellie and Dylan interacting. There's too much bad feeling involved to be simply dislike without motivation.

But i still would prefer if they just kind of... ignored each others existence instead of this dislikeness or had some fun banter now and then.

 

[Hlextor]

And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

 

[Kodek]

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

It's both Dylan acting smart instead of horny once in a while and getting closer to his sister and Ellie using her body to tease him and get what she wanted. Either that or Ellie is portrayed totally different from the rest of the game.

I really don't see any of this crap you said.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

 

[Old Dog]

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

Nope you are spot on Alley_Cat

 

[Hlextor]

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

Say!? What kind of nerd are you? You're supposed to look at the pictures and not the codes? Or do you jerk off to your codes?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The BaDIK thread is as scary as ever. Too many theories all together and most make sense.

Also, i think that in the next Ellie/Dylan event we are probably going to see where it's going, maybe we are going to have options between friendship and romance (I hope).

But i still don't know how that event fit in the game since is some kind of side story yet and should not have too big of an impact on the main story (i don't know L&P comments on that, if someone knows, please kindly tell me~).
If it's indeed not intended to have a big impact, then i think Ellie's vcard is still safe. If it's made to be more impactful, then yes, it's possible to see Dylan getting there.

And yes, if L&P painted Dylan as he did in the bikini show or the bed breakfast, he would be so much better as a character and even side MC.

This is just my own guess, I don't know if this is the reason for it, but I get the feeling it is a side event to show Dylan and Ellie getting closer. It triggers when Ellie sees Dylan naked on Day 4 if Sophia forgets to lock the bathroom door and then pranks him with the viagra laced burger, so they're set on this path to put aside their differences and be better siblings to one another which I think could easily lead to more intimate, sexual developments given the right circumstances and situations and that this is the point, or at least players will be able to choose if it goes that far.

So I think there's plenty of reason to assume/hope that the Dylan/Ellie side event may lead to this, especially given the events that trigger it, the key will be Dylan not being an idiot which does seem like a high bar to clear.

 

[Old Dog]

This is just my own guess, I don't know if this is the reason for it, but I get the feeling it is a side event to show Dylan and Ellie getting closer. It triggers when Ellie sees Dylan naked on Day 4 if Sophia forgets to lock the bathroom door and then pranks him with the viagra laced burger, so they're set on this path to put aside their differences and be better siblings to one another which I think could easily lead to more intimate, sexual developments given the right circumstances and situations and that this is the point, or at least players will be able to choose if it goes that far.

So I think there's plenty of reason to assume/hope that the Dylan/Ellie side event may lead to this, especially given the events that trigger it, the key will be Dylan not being an idiot which does seem like a high bar to clear.

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

 

[nexer]

Can't believe it. Are they drooling? Go Tiger

 

[Old Dog]

Can't believe it. Are they drooling? Go Tiger
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Sophia watching her son kinky

 

[nexer]

Patricia will eat something sooner or later

 

[Old Dog]

Patricia will eat something sooner or later
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The horse riding event will be her chance with Sophia

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.

 

[Old Dog]

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.

Yea if only his brain matched his dick size he might get someplace

 

[hzjujk]

I'm amused, but don't understand the argument that has arisen here, whether or not Dylan is fucking Elli.
Everyone seems to protect his darling here and defends his wishes as the story should go on down to the blood.
Yes, I would prefer if Dylan doesn't have sex with Elli. But as I have already written, a friendly relationship
is absolutely necessary. Dylan has to accept Elli's relationship with her mother and vice versa.
And that doesn't work if both behave like dogs and cats.
Sophia would never allow her children to fall apart completely because of their sexual desires. The way to
prefer either of the two is closed in my opinion. For me that means all future events with Dylan and Elli only
serve this goal. At least that's how I would write the story. Because it would have an emotional logic.
Both have to recognize that they are into the same woman, and if they want to be successful, and not blow
everything that is important to them, it takes accentance and maybe even cooperation. If there is sex between
the two on this route, I have no problem with it.
But I would consider the story between the two of them necessary and L&P has surprised me a few times.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The horse riding event will be her chance with Sophia

There's also the Museum event the night before. Which makes me curious how L&P will structure the event considering we know that Jason and Haru wont play a significant part.

Oh, and concerning the horse-riding event on playable day 15, it might be poignant to point out that L&P will be introducing yet another new character with Patricia's friend Zoe, which may just be for this event.

 

[sept0342]

L&P said he was going to start the next update today, right?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

I don't see why not. If things are going to escalate between Sophia and Ellie, and Sophia and Dylan, why not Dylan and Ellie too? There's nothing that can't be achieved with a bit of creative writing and having there be some situations, circumstances, moments, etc, that push this along. There's honestly plenty of ways to make this work and I think it will happen eventually.

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.

It's not necessarily just the size of her previous boyfriends and the trepidation she has because of it that has made her turn them down, there's also the issue of trust. She may have liked these guys, but she may not have felt she can trust them to not go too far and not hurt her in the process of having sex, like if she were to ask them to stop because she was uncomfortable, she may not have felt that they would and this was part of her fears, that she wanted her first time to be good and she was worried it wouldn't be.

With family, there's generally an inherent level of built-in trust you have with them, and whilst there are some crack in that with Dylan and Ellie, repairing that and Dylan stepping up a little bit to prove himself better in her eyes, could give her that feeling that this is someone she knows she can trust for this. This side event is also likely to build some sexual tension between them to aid in that because she whilst she might be apprehensive about being with a guy with a big dick, it doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't want it, so she might actually like what Dylan's packing.

 

[Old Dog]

I'm amused, but don't understand the argument that has arisen here, whether or not Dylan is fucking Elli.
Everyone seems to protect his darling here and defends his wishes as the story should go on down to the blood.
Yes, I would prefer if Dylan doesn't have sex with Elli. But as I have already written, a friendly relationship
is absolutely necessary. Dylan has to accept Elli's relationship with her mother and vice versa.
And that doesn't work if both behave like dogs and cats.
Sophia would never allow her children to fall apart completely because of their sexual desires. The way to
prefer either of the two is closed in my opinion. For me that means all future events with Dylan and Elli only
serve this goal. At least that's how I would write the story. Because it would have an emotional logic.
Both have to recognize that they are into the same woman, and if they want to be successful, and not blow
everything that is important to them, it takes accentance and maybe even cooperation. If there is sex between
the two on this route, I have no problem with it.
But I would consider the story between the two of them necessary and L&P has surprised me a few times.

There is no argument whether or not they will fuck as I don't see it but I have no evidence to prove or disprove this theory.
Also I don't think that there is enough evidence in the game to say that they will.
Sure Dylan got Ellie to beg for help in fixing her laptop but that was payback for past deeds so at the end of the event Dylan had a smug look on his face because he got one over on Ellie.
Ellie is into smart older boys/Dylan is younger
Until I see credible proof in the game I doubt that they will have a sexual relationship