Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.08.02] [Aleksey90]

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Lukumoide

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khumak said:
I suspect you're familiar enough with all of the game's quirks that you know what you need to do for each of the opportunities. I don't use walkthroughs personally because it breaks immersion for me so I have to try and figure out what I need to do for each opportunity by just playing. Normally that's fine but the dev builds enough grind into this game that even if I do the right thing for an opportunity, I probably have to repeat it several times, or do it on a specific day or whatever before it actually progresses anything. So I can play for 8+ hours and make zero progress on any of the opportunities I'm stuck on without a cheat mod.

For this latest update I completed about half of the opportunities without any trouble and then gave up on the other half and just loaded one of your completed saves so I could see the new content.

Don't get me wrong, I do actually like the game. But I find the opportunity hints to be inadequate for the ones I always get stuck on and I find the grind to be excessive. So I use the cheat mod to reduce the grind and I find that a much more enjoyable experience.
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Each of us is different and what I love you can hate. That's why everyone has to decide for themselves whether to play with WT, cheats, mod or without. Personally, it doesn't bother me if I fail. I just try again and again until it works.
The game is meant to simulate life in the broadest sine qua non. Our life consists for the most part of grind. We do the same things every day: work, eat, sleep and so on. That's why it should also be present in the game. Building a real relationship takes a long time in real life and it's good that it doesn't progress so quickly in the game. In my opinion, Aleksey has found the right balance. Too many hints would have made the game less attractive. I am thrilled with the game. I remember the original BB game. I must have played the first 18 days 40 times to find the perfect path. If I love a game, I can play it again and again and have fun.
 
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In general - I am enjoying this VN but I see some major holes in it.

Some things that are lacking and seem obvious as adds:

* Why have an exercise statistic from the start of the game - and then give the MC no way to improve?

He is regularly derided by Eric as someone who is out of shape and being told that he will be sent away to a military camp to fix this, but we are given no choice to do anything to improve exercise, not even to buy a couple of 10 pound barbells or an exercise book.

* Why have the MC be smart enough to help Lisa with her homework and still have no way to get his GED (high school equivalent diploma)?

Again - Eric derides him as an underachiever who never graduated high school and then we have no way to improve an education statistic.

The classes on communication, massage, and learning the web book all could count towards improving an education statistic but there is no skill to develop - no way to get his GED or to start taking classes for college credit.

The MC starts out as a Beta but we are not given the tools to turn him into anything but a sneak who cannot defend himself against the criticisms of Eric - our persuasion skill means nothing to the Mom in terms of avoiding forced NTR pathing (Lisa sex-ed with Eric on the war path). The MC - someone with at least some basic tech knowledge, is not even bothering to record the 'private' Eric conversations where Eric threatens him, giving him proof about Eric's intent that the MC can play for Alice, Lisa and perhaps Kira (since Ann would never believe him given Eric's control over her) to try to warn them about Eric and gain allies in the house.

So far - we have a partial blackmail path - but no guarantee that we will be able to stop the NTR before it takes over one or both sisters (the Mom is already under Eric's spell and it seems like he may take Kira as well).

For me, it is wait for 2-3 more updates and see what has changed/improved, then decide if this is a VN I want to not only play but support via Patreon. It was worth a few hours of time to try it out but not more than that for rev 0.6.5. For those of you who feel differently and you really like the state of this VN, please consider supporting the creator via Patreon or his support platform of choice.
 
HerrBalrog

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PaxHadrian17 said:
In general - I am enjoying this VN but I see some major holes in it.

Some things that are lacking and seem obvious as adds:

* Why have an exercise statistic from the start of the game - and then give the MC no way to improve?

He is regularly derided by Eric as someone who is out of shape and being told that he will be sent away to a military camp to fix this, but we are given no choice to do anything to improve exercise, not even to buy a couple of 10 pound barbells or an exercise book.

* Why have the MC be smart enough to help Lisa with her homework and still have no way to get his GED (high school equivalent diploma)?

Again - Eric derides him as an underachiever who never graduated high school and then we have no way to improve an education statistic.

The classes on communication, massage, and learning the web book all could count towards improving an education statistic but there is no skill to develop - no way to get his GED or to start taking classes for college credit.

The MC starts out as a Beta but we are not given the tools to turn him into anything but a sneak who cannot defend himself against the criticisms of Eric - our persuasion skill means nothing to the Mom in terms of avoiding forced NTR pathing (Lisa sex-ed with Eric on the war path). The MC - someone with at least some basic tech knowledge, is not even bothering to record the 'private' Eric conversations where Eric threatens him, giving him proof about Eric's intent that the MC can play for Alice, Lisa and perhaps Kira (since Ann would never believe him given Eric's control over her) to try to warn them about Eric and gain allies in the house.

So far - we have a partial blackmail path - but no guarantee that we will be able to stop the NTR before it takes over one or both sisters (the Mom is already under Eric's spell and it seems like he may take Kira as well).

For me, it is wait for 2-3 more updates and see what has changed/improved, then decide if this is a VN I want to not only play but support via Patreon. It was worth a few hours of time to try it out but not more than that for rev 0.6.5. For those of you who feel differently and you really like the state of this VN, please consider supporting the creator via Patreon or his support platform of choice.
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Most of those stats are reminiscent of the original game and not Aleksey's creation. Bear in mind that while he did add a few features like watching the cameras, the majority of the game's engine/system is still the original BB by Dark Silver, and I believe it would be a lot of work to remove stuff that doesn't actually harm the game or the progression, work that can and should be used to further the story and/or expand existing "opportunities".
 
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Dzeris said:
He rewrote the game in different engine and still selected to implement those features in unfinished state.
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Maybe he has plans for them? Aleksey has said that there will be other locations coming like a massage parlour, so there might be other things coming for stats that are not currently used.
 
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HerrBalrog said:
Most of those stats are reminiscent of the original game and not Aleksey's creation. Bear in mind that while he did add a few features like watching the cameras, the majority of the game's engine/system is still the original BB by Dark Silver, and I believe it would be a lot of work to remove stuff that doesn't actually harm the game or the progression, work that can and should be used to further the story and/or expand existing "opportunities".
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You mentioned that it would be a lot of work to remove features and that work should be spent to further the story or expand existing opportunities.

My point was not to remove the exercise 'feature' - it was to actually use it.

If we can add a kissing stat once we learn that skill, then why not add an education stat as well?

As to new opportunities - I think giving players the choice to remain a Beta (no exercise, no education, no ability to use the persuasion skill to prevent forced NTR pathing of Lisa)

OR

Give the player the ability to work on becoming an Alpha - exercise, education, persuasion skill that can actually be used on key decisions to Stop Eric.

Instead - we are being prepped by the creator for the next update which will focus on a difficult to implement mini-game - that is where most of the work is being done.
 
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PaxHadrian17 said:
You mentioned that it would be a lot of work to remove features and that work should be spent to further the story or expand existing opportunities.

My point was not to remove the exercise 'feature' - it was to actually use it.

If we can add a kissing stat once we learn that skill, then why not add an education stat as well?

As to new opportunities - I think giving players the choice to remain a Beta (no exercise, no education, no ability to use the persuasion skill to prevent forced NTR pathing of Lisa)

OR

Give the player the ability to work on becoming an Alpha - exercise, education, persuasion skill that can actually be used on key decisions to Stop Eric.

Instead - we are being prepped by the creator for the next update which will focus on a difficult to implement mini-game - that is where most of the work is being done.
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Welcome to the tough life of a BB fan :HideThePain:
 
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SomeOldFart said:
I'm still getting this, and no, I'm not buying a new PC. :rolleyes:

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This link should help:
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  1. Hold down Shift while starting Ren'Py, or press Shift+G once Ren'Py has started.
  2. From the "Graphics Acceleration" menu that appears, choose the renderer to use.
  3. Choose "Quit", then restart Ren'Py.
 
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i don`t like games where dev give us new update with bugs then give us 1 fix to improve game but make new mess then give us 3-4 new fix with more mess and run ! and what we do ask each others how to continue playing but we can`t !!! easy way is to delete game and continue ! i can`t play this because lot of bugs and play other games !!!
 
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Gavrilo Princip said:
i don`t like games where dev give us new update with bugs then give us 1 fix to improve game but make new mess then give us 3-4 new fix with more mess and run ! and what we do ask each others how to continue playing but we can`t !!! easy way is to delete game and continue ! i can`t play this because lot of bugs and play other games !!!
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What's stopping you from downloading the latest version of the game and starting over ? Download and play for your pleasure.
 
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OnlyFunz said:
This link should help:
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  1. Hold down Shift while starting Ren'Py, or press Shift+G once Ren'Py has started.
  2. From the "Graphics Acceleration" menu that appears, choose the renderer to use.
  3. Choose "Quit", then restart Ren'Py.
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Forcing the 2nd choice worked!!! :)

Thank You!!! :)
 
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