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I can relate to them, i was one of the schmucks giving those dipshits five bucks a month for the last two years only for them to slap a fresh turd in my hand and say enjoy
Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.40] [Savin/Salamander Studios]
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It's the aftermath/payoff. You deal with a delulu dragon girl screaming 'I will never be deafeateddddddd" and then getting mollywhomped by you 20 times, and after a while I just got tired of dealing with her. She's better than most of the CoC2 cast, but I do wish there was a bit more payoff, or let her have her own Helia style quest. She's a good girl, but she's just so tiringNow hold on there a minute! Like the second time I have seen some Kiha slander. I'm guessing it's because she acts like a bitch towards us or something? I mean I'll fully admit my bias. Breaking through that cold bitch exterior, to get to the soft lovey interior. Fun times, though I will say I don't think they did the aftermath of getting her to come around. All that well.
I blame Morrigan from DA:O for unlocking that within me. Even managed to edge out Leliana just a bit. Hm.... I seem to have a real thing for uphill battles
You forgot that after getting beaten by Champ a dozen or so times, she goes and charges some demon stronghold (can't be assed to remember which one) on her own. Expectedly she gets gangraped, which you find out after the fact when you see her covered in cum and crying.
Savin wrote that plotline by the way. Originally Fen intended Kiha simply as a strong enemy encounter.
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Honestly I think that's a fine, and is a good character beat. It's in line with her personality, her pride can't accept that she's weaker than you and tries to prove to herself that she's hot shit, only to bite off more than she can chew. It's good stuff, and the consequences of her actions fit the world. I'm not even entirely sure if it's Savin's brand of cuck shit since it's non-con and she obviously feels bad for it, the opposite of what he usually writes.
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Yeah that one honestly felt like a thing that made sense according to her character.
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The mere fact she can be defeated and a writer won't simply turn around and go "no, you barely beat her, get a hold of your ego" puts her above a bunch of CoC2's cast on mere satisfaction alone. It also prevents the situation the sequel has of a myriad of characters being "totally" capable of solving the issue, beating the big bad demon and the cultists' plots but just "not feeling like doing it right now".
Might've been the start of the descent. Current Savin would've written the whole scene and expected people to like it.
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Current Savin would have us relive it in a flashback and she'd have thoughts about how the twelfth demon dick was better than the champ's.
That was Fen's fetish at the time. The infamous Urta and Amily "threesome setup". Urta literally cucking Champ and You being portrayed as the cruel villain for not liking it.
In some sense, Savin took up that torch after Fen dropped it.
Edit: People shit on Takahiro, but in CoC1 Urta was literally the same. Drunk loser who went around fucking all the girls and cucking Champ.
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Eventhough I love the Savin slander, we should keep it kinda grounded in reality.
Savin isn't into cucking (atleast as far as I know), he is just into sluts and his perfect polygamous world. Everyone would fuck anyone in his vision.
Your character isn't a slut and player focused (and has no dick)? Savin probably doesn't like them.
A reason for why he refuses to write for Brienne to this day.
Of course this leads to some stupid instances where even characters, who were virgins just a minute ago or socially chaste or characters you had to get to know first, suddenly fuck with other characters. Hello Atugia.
Tldr. Savin loves sluts, futadommes and polygamy.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
It wasn't really meant to be that way. Fen wasn't even the person who wrote it (Quiet Bowser if I'm not mistaken. Let's check... Yep.). He just stood by the person who wrote it and took all the backlash himself. With the usual (at the time) Fen response.
That thing with the futa catgirl (Katherine?) on the other hand? I can't remember who wrote that. I undoubtedly have it recorded somewhere. But, given the amount of work the player has to go through to even make that happen at all (an approach I wholeheartedly approve of) it wasn't looked at too unfavorably.
Comparisons to Takahiro
Unlike Takahiro, Urta can be reduced into a whimpering crying mess (you scoundrel) several times throughout that relationship. The one of applicable here was for her being drunk (Bubs just wrote Takahiro threatening to whoop our tail and we acquiesce like a "champion") and that relationship handled the worst of that way before you had to do her quest.
You could get her to minimize or aggravate her drinking after you started going steady. I can't remember if it's before or after the quest or even if it was Urta who eventually tosses you the keys to her house afterwards. Still, what's more important is that despite all of the shenanigans, the character was inarguably written for the player.
Compare all of that to Takahiro who was only written for Bubs to self insert. Probably in some vain attempt to see people compliment his OC and then getting flim flammed when everybody started hating both it and him.
Still Urta never really recovered community wise from the two really bad decisions centered around her:
- Urta Quest being ye olde Kinu quest, taking nearly an entire year of development time for something nobody wanted. And...
- Amily
For better or worse, Fenoxo learned a lesson that day.
Edit attempt #2 (Man I suck at this):
Savin is very into cucking.
GOD DAMNIT SAVIN, I try to defend you and you fall into my back like that.In my defense I was convinced that he didn't like it, because he didn't seem to enjoy Marigold and Kesuk.
Guess it was only because he doesn't have a single dominant bone in him and could never imagine himself the "bull".
Whatever
But I am just gonna change my main point, that he didn't really put cucking per se in the game.
(Blame Bubblelord for the Lusamine shit)
Just expect that almost every character he writes will also hook up with other people.
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No shit he is, I said this to him years ago he just does not like being called a cuck bro can't look at himself in the mirror.It wasn't really meant to be that way. Fen wasn't even the person who wrote it (Quiet Bowser if I'm not mistaken. Let's check... Yep.). He just stood by the person who wrote it and took all the backlash himself. With the usual (at the time) Fen response.
That thing with the futa catgirl (Katherine?) on the other hand? I can't remember who wrote that. I undoubtedly have it recorded somewhere. But, given the amount of work the player has to go through to even make that happen at all (an approach I wholeheartedly approve of) it wasn't looked at too unfavorably.
Comparisons to Takahiro
Unlike Takahiro, Urta can be reduced into a whimpering crying mess (you scoundrel) several times throughout that relationship. The one of applicable here was for her being drunk (Bubs just wrote Takahiro threatening to whoop our tail and we acquiesce like a "champion") and that relationship handled the worst of that way before you had to do her quest.
You could get her to minimize or aggravate her drinking after you started going steady. I can't remember if it's before or after the quest or even if it was Urta who eventually tosses you the keys to her house afterwards. Still, what's more important is that despite all of the shenanigans, the character was inarguably written for the player.
Compare all of that to Takahiro who was only written for Bubs to self insert. Probably in some vain attempt to see people compliment his OC and then getting flim flammed when everybody started hating both it and him.
Still Urta never really recovered community wise from the two really bad decisions centered around her:
Given that threesome "intro" never got changed? Justifiably so.
- Urta Quest being ye olde Kinu quest, taking nearly an entire year of development time for something nobody wanted. And...
- Amily
For better or worse, Fenoxo learned a lesson that day.
Edit attempt #2 (Man I suck at this):
Savin is very into cucking.
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Holy shit bruh! That is another thing I was so glad knowing about going in. I really liked Amily's character with that slow romantic, family life build up. And getting to meet all the children too? Oh, Chef's Kiss. And although many have thrown her to the wayside. I liked Urta too with having to slowly build her confidence and romance. Was actually surprising that they not only allowed it. But had so many opportunities to break her.
But man if I had stumbled across that scene organically. Especially years later with no place to vent? Bruh.
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The thing with Urta was that, either through sheer luck or the modders deciding to just dump that on the cutting room floor, I never got the possible event of Amily dumping the player for her.It wasn't really meant to be that way. Fen wasn't even the person who wrote it (Quiet Bowser if I'm not mistaken. Let's check... Yep.). He just stood by the person who wrote it and took all the backlash himself. With the usual (at the time) Fen response.
That thing with the futa catgirl (Katherine?) on the other hand? I can't remember who wrote that. I undoubtedly have it recorded somewhere. But, given the amount of work the player has to go through to even make that happen at all (an approach I wholeheartedly approve of) it wasn't looked at too unfavorably.
Comparisons to Takahiro
Unlike Takahiro, Urta can be reduced into a whimpering crying mess (you scoundrel) several times throughout that relationship. The one of applicable here was for her being drunk (Bubs just wrote Takahiro threatening to whoop our tail and we acquiesce like a "champion") and that relationship handled the worst of that way before you had to do her quest.
You could get her to minimize or aggravate her drinking after you started going steady. I can't remember if it's before or after the quest or even if it was Urta who eventually tosses you the keys to her house afterwards. Still, what's more important is that despite all of the shenanigans, the character was inarguably written for the player.
Compare all of that to Takahiro who was only written for Bubs to self insert. Probably in some vain attempt to see people compliment his OC and then getting flim flammed when everybody started hating both it and him.
Still Urta never really recovered community wise from the two really bad decisions centered around her:
Given that threesome "intro" never got changed? Justifiably so.
- Urta Quest being ye olde Kinu quest, taking nearly an entire year of development time for something nobody wanted. And...
- Amily
For better or worse, Fenoxo learned a lesson that day.
Edit attempt #2 (Man I suck at this):
Savin is very into cucking.
Doesn't even make too much sense, Urta's not exactly the most noble of characters (even if she's not bad for a guard, she's not exactly romantic material for Amily unless the PC really screwed up) and only really improves if the champion bothers with her.
Hell, by all accounts, one should probably expect Amily to return whimpering back to the camp in sadness that such a relationship crumbles the day after or something.
A saying uttered many times, hopefully learned just as much.
The lead dev is into it, it rears its head from time to time in usually catastrophic manners.
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- Dec 24, 2020
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It's a weird sequence, but generally CoC1 treats rape on defeat as a mild inconvenience for the PC and most characters. I think its weird the writer wanted us to see her post rape being sad, because it is tonally inconsistent. If I were to rewrite that sequence, I would have Kiha run off to whatever stronghold/outpost, but then the PC have an option to go after her, and save or get bad ended alongside her.