Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.40] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Mendakin]

The thing with Urta was that, either through sheer luck or the modders deciding to just dump that on the cutting room floor, I never got the possible event of Amily dumping the player for her.

Doesn't even make too much sense, Urta's not exactly the most noble of characters (even if she's not bad for a guard, she's not exactly romantic material for Amily unless the PC really screwed up) and only really improves if the champion bothers with her.

Hell, by all accounts, one should probably expect Amily to return whimpering back to the camp in sadness that such a relationship crumbles the day after or something.



A saying uttered many times, hopefully learned just as much.



The lead dev is into it, it rears its head from time to time in usually catastrophic manners.

is he also into futa? especially the dom type?

 

[Trapitalism101]

I say this as the resident Trapitalist ITT, I like me some feminine looking people with dongers. It's nice. But, I think CoC2 has too much of them to the point where every time you meet a lady, she has a record breaking salami under her skirt and is looking to refurbish your colon. Futa is great, traps are nice, and a femboy can be sweet. But if you have too many of them, they quickly become overpowering and meaningless because they are all the same. Hollow sex dolls that have no personality and are just avatars of the hack writers one handed writing ability.

 

[Jbuster]

is he also into futa? especially the dom type?

Fenoxo forums in general are very pro futa, pro cucking, pro bimbo (I hate you doctor Badger), pro hating this place because we are their twisted mirror of no compliance

Also, it's something embedded in the setting. Both TITS and COC2 are never ending orgies and you as the player are expected to jump from one to another while doing other stuff, and part of that setting include futas domming everyone. This is a consequence of the writing team being really into it and their audience being really into it too

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

It's the aftermath/payoff. You deal with a delulu dragon girl screaming 'I will never be deafeateddddddd" and then getting mollywhomped by you 20 times, and after a while I just got tired of dealing with her. She's better than most of the CoC2 cast, but I do wish there was a bit more payoff, or let her have her own Helia style quest. She's a good girl, but she's just so tiring

That my friend is the Tsundere Paradox, The more u show love and if accepted, the more she falls in love but due to character flaws will show hate or disgust until they develop pass said character flaws. The execution may vary! Conditions may apply.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

It wasn't really meant to be that way. Fen wasn't even the person who wrote it (Quiet Bowser if I'm not mistaken. Let's check... Yep.). He just stood by the person who wrote it and took all the backlash himself. With the usual (at the time) Fen response.

See that is 32 flavors of retarded. It only happens if you romance both... so bad thing only happens out of the blue, if you play the game like normal? Got it. All it does is setup for a threesome... so ignore the dicking down beforehand that is the crux of the issue? Cool. There was absolutely no other way to set a 3some up. Then the be a dick option. It's either that or act like everything was acceptable. Can't remember the exact words. But the MC was like 2 steps away from giving an accepting nod. Be a dick was the closest thing to being angry about it. And that led to you getting guilt tripped and Amily going poof back to Urta.

Some people wanting more threesomes, is not everyone wanting it. Asking for threesomes is not asking for one character to run behind your back and engaging in fuckery. Without you having any say. Especially if the reasoning and logic behind it is dumb as hell. And it was a conscience decision to pick the more wholesome, family orientated character. To do it with.

Again, the scene didn't bother me because I knew it was coming. Hell I used the debug to try and see it out of curiosity. See what all the hubbub was about. But it's the level of braindead you have to be. To do it, not expect it to go over poorly, be surprised, and then mad at everyone else. It's like paying someone to mow a lawn. And they mow half too low, other half too high, with bald spots all over. Then they get mad at you, when you criticize the job done.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Honestly I think that's a fine, and is a good character beat. It's in line with her personality, her pride can't accept that she's weaker than you and tries to prove to herself that she's hot shit, only to bite off more than she can chew. It's good stuff, and the consequences of her actions fit the world. I'm not even entirely sure if it's Savin's brand of cuck shit since it's non-con and she obviously feels bad for it, the opposite of what he usually writes.

Fairly in line with her character n consequences in CoC1, God knows how many times my PC went through it because I forgot to save n couldn't be bothered to go through a whole 2hrs of grinding.
See that's consistency

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

Edit: People shit on Takahiro, but in CoC1 Urta was literally the same. Drunk loser who went around fucking all the girls and cucking Champ.

Never played CoC1, but honestly, I don’t think people shit on Takahiro enough.

Remember, Bubble almost wrote a scene of him with Kiyoko before Tobs put the kibosh on it.

 

[thecatcameback]

Speaking of Bubbles, do you all think the current writers are going to genderswap all of his characters now that Bubs abandoned them (Savin).

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Holy shit bruh! That is another thing I was so glad knowing about going in. I really liked Amily's character with that slow romantic, family life build up. And getting to meet all the children too? Oh, Chef's Kiss. And although many have thrown her to the wayside. I liked Urta too with having to slowly build her confidence and romance. Was actually surprising that they not only allowed it. But had so many opportunities to break her.

But man if I had stumbled across that scene organically. Especially years later with no place to vent? Bruh.

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You know, I'd be fine if they gave us a crash out option whether u tell them off, get Violent, or just say good ridence. But they never do

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I say this as the resident Trapitalist ITT, I like me some feminine looking people with dongers. It's nice. But, I think CoC2 has too much of them to the point where every time you meet a lady, she has a record breaking salami under her skirt and is looking to refurbish your colon. Futa is great, traps are nice, and a femboy can be sweet. But if you have too many of them, they quickly become overpowering and meaningless because they are all the same. Hollow sex dolls that have no personality and are just avatars of the hack writers one handed writing ability.

Now ur talk sense

 

[procrastinator101]

Never played CoC1, but honestly, I don’t think people shit on Takahiro enough.

Remember, Bubble almost wrote a scene of him with Kiyoko before Tobs put the kibosh on it.

Only thing TObs did right in the past years.

 

[MarvintheBee]

Speaking of Bubbles, do you all think the current writers are going to genderswap all of his characters now that Bubs abandoned them (Savin).

Savin funnily enough tried to comm Bubs in the past for Genderswapped Quintilius but the latter didn't wanna do it. And now he got no writer basically (there is one potential person, but they are very busy and won't do it either).

The other characters will probably just get either written out of the game or just left as is, if someone doesn't pick them up.
(looking at you leothric)
Bubble's was a master in starting character arcs for a bunch of different characters and not finishing one of them.

Fenoxo forums in general are very pro futa, pro cucking, pro bimbo (I hate you doctor Badger), pro hating this place because we are their twisted mirror of no compliance

Also, it's something embedded in the setting. Both TITS and COC2 are never ending orgies and you as the player are expected to jump from one to another while doing other stuff, and part of that setting include futas domming everyone. This is a consequence of the writing team being really into it and their audience being really into it too

Pro futa yes, the other stuff, not really.
The forums hate Dr.Badger.
The Fen forums are basically F95 lite and almost all writers have taken refugee in their respective Discord echo chambers.

 

[Darrel Caper]

Is anyone else having issues accessing the mods in the google drives? Most say that they are in the owner's trash and cannot be downloaded. I've tried searching this thread for answers without success.

 

[Mrbark1234]

Remember, Bubble almost wrote a scene of him with Kiyoko before Tobs put the kibosh on it.

Christ can you imagine if that actually went through Kiyokos rep would never recover from it hell half the people here don't even release her from the amulet and i can't blame them for it but if that scene was added nobody would even pick the amulet

 

[Jbuster]

Savin funnily enough tried to comm Bubs in the past for Genderswapped Quintilius but the latter didn't wanna do it. And now he got no writer basically (there is one potential person, but they are very busy and won't do it either).

The other characters will probably just get either written out of the game or just left as is, if someone doesn't pick them up.
(looking at you leothric)
Bubble's was a master in starting character arcs for a bunch of different characters and not finishing one of them.


Pro futa yes, the other stuff, not really.
The forums hate Dr.Badger.
The Fen forums are basically F95 lite and almost all writers have taken refugee in their respective Discord echo chambers.

Oh I see, reduced to the entrails of Discord in utter shame, not even owners of the common consensus at their homeland, how the mighty have fallen




Now beg the question, could Girltilius be a better partner than Quintilius?, what about one of the many corrupted mobs we find or even the one we captured and gave to Sanders?, all of these question and possibilities, so many things, "not implemented yet"

 

[Yeppers34]

Now I see why people hate Urta so much, I've always played modded and there's an option to just turn off her events which hell if there's an option to just turn off one particular character i should probably do it.

 

[bensal]

wasn't one of the problems with urta that she brought up futas were apparently discriminated against or some shit only for that to never be brought up again and it being quite immersion/lore breaking? or am i misremembering and making shit up in my head.

 

[K1ng_C00mer]

Urta's main problem is that she's Fen's super special OC. I think she literally was his fursona. I'm not fucking joking by the way. The problem of the devs having their characters take the spotlight was literally planted way back in the very first game. It just wasn't as apparent as it was in CoC II, but it was there.

I think it was mostly staved off from Fen and everyone's inexperience, it made them more susceptible to suggestions and criticism and more willing to compromise and back down if enough people pressured them. You can tell this because when they started working on TiTs, this mentality was still in the early versions of the game, and you can see it in the older planets and characters.

Then there was a paradigm shift. I'm not too sure when it happened, as I haven't followed the history of TiTs as closely as I do CoC.

I do know that like the issues with Urta, there's hints of what was to come even back in CoC I. You guys know Marble was originally going to kill herself if you became immune to her milk and had a low affection score? You were even suppose to run into her rotting corpse in the Lake.

The debacle about removing Izma's cock. The Helspawn saga. I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch more...

Christ can you imagine if that actually went through Kiyokos rep would never recover from it hell half the people here don't even release her from the amulet and i can't blame them for it but if that scene was added nobody would even pick the amulet

If what Bubs wanted to do to Kiyoko had come to pass, I probably would've just walked and never touched CoC2 again, honestly. Don't you dare touch her. She did nothing wrong. It's all Keros' fault her daughter turned out the way she did. Even the part where she nearly drove Kinu mad by lying about her studies- that's just a bad hallucination she had from being cooped up in the ball for centuries. Totally not me coping. Nope. Now if you excuse me, I'll be with my asocial shut in fox wife.

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

Now if you excuse me, I'll be with my asocial shut in fox wife.

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The timeline where Kiyoko became a shut-in NEET instead of a prissy ice queen…

I don’t think I ever needed something so much before.

Side tangent: speaking of Kiyoko, after giving it thought, I think I figured out why I enjoyed Aury’s Komari stuff. Kiyoko actually feels like a character again in it. I missed the snarky fox-girl more than I realized.

 

[Yeppers34]

My headcannon for why both kinu and kiyoko act and treat the PC so differently when you bust them out is that when you break them out of the orb due to some inter-dimensional bs you actually get a different kiyoko and kinu who's PC was actually a deadbeat and they don't know the difference. But unfortunately the PC is such a doormat he doesn't even try to correct them.