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Indeed, that is a known bug introduced in the latest version 1.5 (1.05). It will be fixed on version 1.10
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Version 1.10 is out now . This version took a while given the added turbulence from our personal lives, but it is now done.
This one focus on the second combat rework, based on the previous poll we had, and adding the escape scenes to all enemy parties. There are a few new niceties and we tried to fix every lingering issue on 1.05, the major ones at least.
Now, the combat rework is very extensive and redoes the battle dynamic once again, so I advise anyone to replay the tutorial to gather the new information. Hopefully that will be enough to carry out most encounter. As always, the devlog can be found on Itch at
Thank you for the patience.
. This version took a while given the added turbulence from our personal lives, but it is now done.This one focus on the second combat rework, based on the previous poll we had, and adding the escape scenes to all enemy parties. There are a few new niceties and we tried to fix every lingering issue on 1.05, the major ones at least.
Now, the combat rework is very extensive and redoes the battle dynamic once again, so I advise anyone to replay the tutorial to gather the new information. Hopefully that will be enough to carry out most encounter. As always, the devlog can be found on Itch at
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.Thank you for the patience
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I like the changes 1.10 so far, but I´d like to make a suggestion:
This phase of each turn seems unneeded and adds extra waste time to every turn of combat, why not remove the extra pop-up menu by moving the choices elsewhere where they make sense?
Make fight the default choice since the RPS based moves with repeats barred mean you´ll want to pick your moves basically every turn, make skip, escape and surrender self-target moves that use all actions of a turn (or put escape/surrender in the bottom right where they should be unlikely to be clicked accidentally), and move repeat last either next to Leah´s card or the bottom right (If it´s not already occupied) for easy access.
(Placement of repeat/other vaguely like this where you could immediately begin picking moves instead of having this menu first. As a bonus it´d mean you can´t accidentally lock yourself out of escaping by clicking fight and then changing your mind since they´re self moves, that might´ve happened once or twice to me already )
That´s just my 5 cents on it so far, along with a suggestion to change it, though I could easily be alone in this opinion. The fighting itself feels fine, I´m neither particularly positive nor negative about it, but I like it overall.
This phase of each turn seems unneeded and adds extra waste time to every turn of combat, why not remove the extra pop-up menu by moving the choices elsewhere where they make sense?
Make fight the default choice since the RPS based moves with repeats barred mean you´ll want to pick your moves basically every turn, make skip, escape and surrender self-target moves that use all actions of a turn (or put escape/surrender in the bottom right where they should be unlikely to be clicked accidentally), and move repeat last either next to Leah´s card or the bottom right (If it´s not already occupied) for easy access.
(Placement of repeat/other vaguely like this where you could immediately begin picking moves instead of having this menu first. As a bonus it´d mean you can´t accidentally lock yourself out of escaping by clicking fight and then changing your mind since they´re self moves, that might´ve happened once or twice to me already
)That´s just my 5 cents on it so far, along with a suggestion to change it, though I could easily be alone in this opinion. The fighting itself feels fine, I´m neither particularly positive nor negative about it, but I like it overall.
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Hey TheFakeOne23, thank you for the feedbackI like the changes 1.10 so far, but I´d like to make a suggestion:
This phase of each turn seems unneeded and adds extra waste time to every turn of combat, why not remove the extra pop-up menu by moving the choices elsewhere where they make sense?
Make fight the default choice since the RPS based moves with repeats barred mean you´ll want to pick your moves basically every turn, make skip, escape and surrender self-target moves that use all actions of a turn (or put escape/surrender in the bottom right where they should be unlikely to be clicked accidentally), and move repeat last either next to Leah´s card or the bottom right (If it´s not already occupied) for easy access.
(Placement of repeat/other vaguely like this where you could immediately begin picking moves instead of having this menu first. As a bonus it´d mean you can´t accidentally lock yourself out of escaping by clicking fight and then changing your mind since they´re self moves, that might´ve happened once or twice to me already
That´s just my 5 cents on it so far, along with a suggestion to change it, though I could easily be alone in this opinion. The fighting itself feels fine, I´m neither particularly positive nor negative about it, but I like it overall.
!I completely understand your point regarding the turn start screen, actually, a similar critique was done in the earlier combat test version. The decision for keeping that screen is more technical than anything
, since the change from 1 action per turn to 1 action per enemy created a rift in the system, as some actions are still 1 per turn (skip, repeat, surrender and escape), so basically the screen functions as the entry point of the turn by entering into a different flow for the combat depending on the "1 action per turn" (or single actions as we call them) that you pick.Mostly this was a way to simplify the combat logic, but with a bit more time for the next version I do think this could be revisited and improved.
One thing we have to take in consideration is for example, if you pick a self/targeted action, will the single actions be disabled until end of turn? (which goes against your experience of regretting to click the Fight action
) Or as an alternative, the single actions will overwrite any prior actions and skip your input for the turn?Repeat last will probably require the former in any case, at least to make it easier on implementation side.
Besides this, would the single actions be better if readily available, as you've put them in the examples, or as part of the self actions, like they were before? This creates a bit of delay, but also allows the actions to be neatly packed with the other self actions without additional interfaces to be aware of.
Personally I would probably point to keeping the bottom space free for any future companion features, that we are likely to implement, but I would still like to understand how people would prefer it
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Is there anything at the ladder part of the cliff? I've searched there a billion times but never found anything, so just curious why we can even search there.
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As of now you can only farm ore, gems and broken pickaxe there. No enemies. It used to be this way in Ateras original game, too
'Escape', 'Skip' and 'Surrender' could probably be put in a combined menu that would be opened as needed rather than open by default, especially considering they´re usually only used in particular circumstances, or once (successfully) per fight. The only "full-turn" action that reasonably needs easy access is 'Repeat Last', which is why I suggested putting that next to Leah´s profile where it´s easily noticed and available.
If making them ignore pre-selected "single actions" is too hard, then maybe it´d be easier to make them only be selectable if they´re the first action of that turn?
If making them ignore pre-selected "single actions" is too hard, then maybe it´d be easier to make them only be selectable if they´re the first action of that turn?
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I mean the ladder part, not the top. You can't even farm ore, gems, or broken pickaxes there, or at least I haven't ever found any.
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OK I got it wrong then. Yeah the ladder area is kinda pointless unless Eroism adds custom stuff there.
Be sure to add a confirm prompt for surrenders and maybe make it so when you end turn, instead of menu to choose to fight more make it have the menu have it's own separate button when fighting