VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.3] [Eva Kiss]

[dontcarewhateverno]

Star Wars isn't Science Fiction, its Fantasy in space. And what worked for old school then is a clichee now.

Science Fiction is also a tricky genre and while Holly comments on most choices, she doesn't on all and a good chunk of them are plain guessing.

The only fairly easy genre is Fantasy, really. I merely got 5/8 points für my history (Crude and Defeat), so either I'm too stupid too read or the game design is bad (I'm fine if its the first case xp ).


I just started a discussion about the book points and linked a chart.

Are you kidding me? That's an 100% arbitrary opinion that wouldn't be shared by most of the general public. Maybe just among some super-fans that gatekeep a geekdom forum of some sort. Ships in space, robots and hi-tech gadgets will = Sci-fi category in most people's minds, which isn't negated just because there are arguably fantasy elements too. The general public should of course be who these hints are aimed at, as you have many different users playing.

Chosen One (i.e. Luke Skywalker or Rei) just doesn't seem like "shaking things up" in that category.

 

[kingArthur 9906]

Is it all? Will there be a sequel?

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Star Wars isn't Science Fiction, its Fantasy in space. And what worked for old school then is a clichee now.

Science Fiction is also a tricky genre and while Holly comments on most choices, she doesn't on all and a good chunk of them are plain guessing.

The only fairly easy genre is Fantasy, really. I merely got 5/8 points für my history (Crude and Defeat), so either I'm too stupid too read or the game design is bad (I'm fine if its the first case xp ).


I just started a discussion about the book points and linked a chart.

Yeah, Game of Thrones is not Fantasy, it's a political drama in the Middle Ages :\

 

[manscout]

The hints for the book aren't very good by themselves, but I get the logic behind them when you savescum and see what Ian says about how exactly he plans to implement the ideas.

Maybe they would work better if the player could see that monologue before locking a decision, but whatever. Most VNs involve some arbitrary shit to explain the optimal routes so it is nothing new under the sun.

 

[crimsonoon]

Is it all? Will there be a sequel?

It's not by any means completed. There's a long way to go still. I think we're barely half into the story.

 

[ffive]

Maybe they would work better if the player could see that monologue before locking a decision, but whatever. Most VNs involve some arbitrary shit to explain the optimal routes so it is nothing new under the sun.

I think the current version is okay, since the player is able to change 1-2 cards (depending on whether they've put extra effort in the book writing) in chapter 10, which means a good chance overall to get max score, unless they didn't pay attention early and really messed up.

 

[evilkitty97]

Technically, Lena is not a slut in the beginning or if the player chooses her not to be one. Because she only ever had 1 man in her past, which is Axel.

But the fact that Lena has the potential to be a slut in the game like MercyHealer says, means she can definitely be one. Although only if the player chooses that route for her.

She can become one if she chooses to date both Ian and Robert as by definition.
Slutty, but that isnt a bad thing.

I prefer slutty than prude, personally.

And Lena, like Ashley from GGGB, is going to be amazing.
Cant wait for her first GB scene

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Is it all? Will there be a sequel?

Eva said she is planing on doing about 20 chapters, so the game is about 50% done.

 

[dolfe67]

Same goes with the Take Drugs > Game Crash joke puzzle in Chapter 8, as most end-users won't even be familiar with the Renpy crash screen. It'll be more of a WTF? than an in-joke.

Yeah this is too meta for the average user, you just have to read the posts related to that in this thread. She'll get a lot of bug reports from steam users about it

Personally I didn't like this "joke".

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Yeah this is too meta for the average user, you just have to read the posts related to that in this thread. She'll get a lot of bug reports from steam users about it

Personally I didn't like this "joke".

Plus any platform, including Steam, is going to have a certification team inspect the game before final release. I foresee "Build failed. Level 8 main-story crash bug" write-ups in the future that would take some mitigating on Eva's part. "Well... it's not actually a crash."

I got the joke after a few clicks, since I'm used to these Renpy crashes on In-development games. But it's my least favorite part of the game now too, since it's the one place you can't fastforward on subsequent playthroughs unless you're using UnRen. Def the "oh god, this again" part of the game for me, but I select "do drugs" every time, in case it helps influence any future success in hidden stats. (I should probably just look through the code to confirm that, though).

 

[dolfe67]

Plus any platform, including Steam, is going to have a certification team inspect the game before final release. I foresee "Build failed. Level 8 main-story crash bug" write-ups in the future that would take some mitigating on Eva's part. "Well... it's not actually a crash."

If such a team existed, lots of AAA games would be banned from Steam

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

If such a team existed, lots of AAA games would be banned from Steam

I'm not sure with Steam, tbh, but I heavy lean towards there being one. Likely a bunch less thorough than Nintendo's, Sony's or Xbox, but they probably do at least a speed run for Final releases before calling it good (as opposed to in-development titles).

Problem is, a game tested in a walled environment will often display different results on final release as even the consoles' release failures can attest to. I'd chalk up a lot of the failures to that + less thorough compliance testing due to a huge array of games + the limitations of compatibility testing inherent in PC game releases, as the end user's hardware and software config is nearly limitless vs the uniform configuration of a console release.

 

[cdn]

I remember playing multiple routes during my play-through of chapter 9. Now saves only seem to have on type of route with all stats maxed in all of them (similar to cheat mode 10 each). I do not want to replay the game from beginning now. Any way to recover to my original save or skip to different routes beginning chapter 10?

 

[Clone002]

Guys, I need some help with my saves. The first time I opened v.10 Alpha and v.10 Final, all my saves were there.

But the second time I played each version, all my saves were gone. I also can't find them on AppData\Roaming\RenPy\RedString-1574621830.

WTF is happening? Is there a way to fix it? Where can I find my saves?

 

[Kassan06969]

Are you kidding me? That's an 100% arbitrary opinion that wouldn't be shared by most of the general public. Maybe just among some super-fans that gatekeep a geekdom forum of some sort. Ships in space, robots and hi-tech gadgets will = Sci-fi category in most people's minds, which isn't negated just because there are arguably fantasy elements too. The general public should of course be who these hints are aimed at, as you have many different users playing.

Chosen One (i.e. Luke Skywalker or Rei) just doesn't seem like "shaking things up" in that category.

Actually it was sort of an adaptation in a SF manner of Kurosowa's "The Hidden Fortress."

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Just noticed, Emma's "surprise" face looks like she is having a stroke

 

[ffive]

Just noticed, Emma's "surprise" face looks like she is having a stroke

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I keep thinking she's wetting her upper lip with her tongue instead of being shocked, it throws me off ;/

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Actually it was sort of an adaptation in a SF manner of Kurosowa's "The Hidden Fortress."

lol. I know. But that's also extremely besides the point that the average person associates Star Wars with Sci-fi, not fantasy or... ninjas. InB4 "akshually... it's a Samurai film"

That's like if there were a Western Category and Holly advised against timeless classic spaghetti western set-ups.

"Hmm. There've been enough rogue strangers in Westerns, playing both sides of the coin. .Ok. Check. No deceitful loners."

(Deceitful loners ends up being +2 Western book points).

"Well, technically that movie is Yojimbo."

I don't think you all are getting the point of hints needing to be applicable to the average user in game design.

 

[Kassan06969]

lol. I know. But that's also extremely besides the point that the average person associates Star Wars with Sci-fi, not fantasy or... ninjas.

That's like if there were a Western Category and Holly advised against timeless classic spaghetti western set-ups.

"Hmm. There've been enough rogue strangers in Westerns, playing both sides of the coin. .Ok. Check. No deceitful loners."

(Deceitful loners ends up being +2 Western book points).

"Well, technically that movie is Yojimbo."

I don't think you all are getting the point of hints needing to applicable to the average user in game design.

True. Now we need one that's an adaptation of The Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven in a SF or fantasy setting...
Had to wait on this because of those damn automatic updates. Every day at 11am and 7pm EST. If the pattern fits probably 3 am too, but I wouldn't be up THAT late!

 

[Reaurt]

lol. I know. But that's also extremely besides the point that the average person associates Star Wars with Sci-fi, not fantasy or... ninjas. InB4 "akshually... it's a Samurai film"

I get your point, but I gotta say, people who seriously read sci-fi novels like the type Ian is trying to write would be nerdy enough to distinguish between the Star Wars movie franchise tropes (chosen one with holy sword Imeanlightsaber and magic powers ImeantheForce) and those in sci-fi novels.