VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[notstaged]

Game isn't about teaching lessons though.

Lena can get high as all fucks fucking anything that moves, cheating on partners and making partners cheat, punching random hoes in nightclubs virtually remorse-free.

By your own admission playing the game allowed you to wrestle with a concept of determinism a little bit. See? You learned something

 

[cooldevo]

Of course the one time I come here to look for an answer the search is disabled for maintenance and rebuilding the index. I'm not sure why it took me so long, but I fired this up for the first time today, and been enjoying it. I'm trying to figure out my Save Management and having two protagonists potentially makes things a lot more complex.

By looking at the '_dating' variables, it seems that Ian has 6 LIs, Lena has 9, and an additional Ian/Lena path. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, do I need to have a save for each combination of who they are dating? If so, that's a staggering number of saves/playthroughs to work through. If it doesn't affect the overall story or interactions between Ian and Lena, then I may just finagle singular playthroughs as for each LI.

 

[SearingFive]

Of course the one time I come here to look for an answer the search is disabled for maintenance and rebuilding the index. I'm not sure why it took me so long, but I fired this up for the first time today, and been enjoying it. I'm trying to figure out my Save Management and having two protagonists potentially makes things a lot more complex.

By looking at the '_dating' variables, it seems that Ian has 6 LIs, Lena has 9, and an additional Ian/Lena path. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, do I need to have a save for each combination of who they are dating? If so, that's a staggering number of saves/playthroughs to work through. If it doesn't affect the overall story or interactions between Ian and Lena, then I may just finagle singular playthroughs as for each LI.

Not a harem game, so you have to make multiple playthroughs for different LIs. For now, (Pure) Holly-Ian-Lena can enter a throuple relationship. Cindy cancels out Holly, Lena and Alison. Cherry cancels out Alison and Lena.

 

[SerHawkes]

It's all fun and games on paper until child support kicks in.

Jokes on you I'm into that shit!

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

By your own admission playing the game allowed you to wrestle with a concept of determinism a little bit. See? You learned something

There's a difference between Eva actively trying to "teach" a lesson in a didactic way using her game as a medium and me engaging with a concept... Concept which is even outside the confines of the game's storyline since by determinism you clearly talk about whether players' feedback changes characters' outcome by influencing Eva to add different branching and outcomes to the storyline.

 

[cooldevo]

Not a harem game, so you have to make multiple playthroughs for different LIs. For now, (Pure) Holly-Ian-Lena can enter a throuple relationship. Cindy cancels out Holly, Lena and Alison. Cherry cancels out Alison and Lena.

That's perfect for the non-harem, and what I was expecting.

As to my exact question I suspect it's some confusion on my end trying to word the question clearly. Is there meaningful changes to the story/interactions between who Ian and Lena are dating? For example, will there be a significant story differences if:

• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Mark;
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Jack; and
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Holly.

I get that Lena's pathing will be different, but is there a need to have the above 3 as separate playthroughs? Or is there no real meaningful state changes between the three different combinations above? I'm not sure I'm framing the question clearly, it's a bit of a mental struggle day for me.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

in my gameplay for example Ian is half cuck and half alpha

This is an incredible breakthrough in science, sir. You discovered quantum uncertainty in cuckolding and created the concept of Schrodinger's Cuck. He is cucked and alpha at the same time.

 

[SearingFive]

That's perfect for the non-harem, and what I was expecting.

As to my exact question I suspect it's some confusion on my end trying to word the question clearly. Is there meaningful changes to the story/interactions between who Ian and Lena are dating? For example, will there be a significant story differences if:

• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Mark;
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Jack; and
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Holly.

I get that Lena's pathing will be different, but is there a need to have the above 3 as separate playthroughs? Or is there no real meaningful state changes between the three different combinations above? I'm not sure I'm framing the question clearly, it's a bit of a mental struggle day for me.

• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Mark; (Nothing of significance from Lena's side, just casual hookup.)
  
  
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Jack; and (Lena has a heart option for Jack, but right now, there is no content with Jack other than the nightclub scene.)
  
  
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Holly. (Lena and Holly can enter a sapphic relationship.)

 

[Puggy Aiden]

Is the slutty Emma path closed for the casual relationship path? I've been trying to find a way to get the scene with a casual relationship with Lena but can't, it seems so illogical.

 

[spartaan]

no 13.3.4 hero yet? kinda surprised honestly

 

[JoeSte91]

That's perfect for the non-harem, and what I was expecting.

As to my exact question I suspect it's some confusion on my end trying to word the question clearly. Is there meaningful changes to the story/interactions between who Ian and Lena are dating? For example, will there be a significant story differences if:

• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Mark;
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Jack; and
• Ian is dating Emma and Lena is dating Holly.

I get that Lena's pathing will be different, but is there a need to have the above 3 as separate playthroughs? Or is there no real meaningful state changes between the three different combinations above? I'm not sure I'm framing the question clearly, it's a bit of a mental struggle day for me.

It depends on the character. If it's relatively minor character like Mark or Jack, there's not much difference to the overall story. If it's a major character like Holly though, there's a greater degree of change, both to Lena and Holly's personalities.

The trajectory of the narrative for the most part stays the same. Some choices allow you to choose whether to go to certain events, although that seems to happen more on Ian's side. For example the choice of going to Cindy's birthday or going to a book fair with Holly. But there is some effect on Lena's side. For instance, she only travels abroad if she works with Seymour.

There are plenty of scenes that are tied to specific relationships, and where there are events that happen on every route, there's usually some kind of dialogue difference dependent on who is who at least.

 

[Ray_D]

I have one route where Lena is a pure bitch. She bullies Stan, steals from Molly and Ed, hates the homeless, kicks the dog, hates her mother and also hates Cindy's guts. She also has an affair with Seymour and Axel while in a relationship with Ian. And she successfully hides it from Ian. Though Ian is no saint either. He is cheating with everyone he can get his grubby paws on. I call this the evil Ian and Lena playthrough, with Ian focusing on charisma stat and Lena focusing on wits stat.

Jesus christ man.

when you starts all over its always a pain in the ass to play pool game my god !

How is pool game a pain in the ass? It's pretty fast and easy! Unlike games with freeroams which is a real pain in the ass if you are doing multiple runs.... BADIK COUGH....

Oh yeah, how could I forget that new math mini-game?

My headcanon is Ian fucking every girl in sight

and fucking every guy in sight.

That's it. Just broken pussies and bungholes.

 

[cooldevo]

It depends on the character. If it's relatively minor character like Mark or Jack, there's not much difference to the overall story. If it's a major character like Holly though, there's a greater degree of change, both to Lena and Holly's personalities.

The trajectory of the narrative for the most part stays the same. Some choices allow you to choose whether to go to certain events, although that seems to happen more on Ian's side. For example the choice of going to Cindy's birthday or going to a book fair with Holly. But there is some effect on Lena's side. For instance, she only travels abroad if she works with Seymour.

There are plenty of scenes that are tied to specific relationships, and where there are events that happen on every route, there's usually some kind of dialogue difference dependent on who is who at least.

That's perfect, thanks! Going in blind, just looking at variable names it's hard to tell the LIs versus minor side characters. I was just looking at the '<name>_dating' variable for both Ian and Lena as I assumed they'd be somewhat more significant. Trial and error it'll be to figure out who's who.

Once search is back up and running I'll try and see if I can find a list of major/minor characters to help focus the playthroughs more.

 

[Ray_D]

OK red stringers quick quizz. You can only beat the shit out of either jeremy or Axel, who are you picking, and why?

I will definitely kick axel's ass, jeremy will end up burying himself in the long run.

Natural selection says Jeremy. Simply because the dude is a scumbag of a friend who only cares for getting laid and fails to understand that not all girls want a guy who lasts a minute in bed, even with his small cock syndrome.

Don't worry jeremy will eventually be humiliated in front of ivy in the tournament.

Jeremy. What kind of a "friend" sends to you a picture of a girl sucking his cock who's either ex or your crush with a mocking text? It's worse having a rival for your supposed friend than a guy you aren't friends with.

I never had that interaction but I guess you get it if you have a low friendship level with jeremy.

Axel since he is physically and emotionally violent.
Jeremy is harmless and doesn't do anything. Worst is not telling Wade about Ian and Cindy, and that isn't even brought up much, since its very beneficial if Ian dates her, so most hypocrites here shut up about it. Second worst would be not giving Louise clear signals, but that could also be attributed to him not being bright and Louise being overreacting to everything. Lena can tell her directly Jeremy may not consider her a girlfriend and Louise immediatly lashes out at Lena.

Indeed.

Axel...duh
He sucks ass as a person. Always trying to one-up people and has that attitude that he is better than everyone present in the room. Manipulative POS.

He will fall eventually when eva finally decides to make the fight.

 

[SerHawkes]

Don't worry jeremy will eventually be humiliated in front of ivy

True. Though why do I get the feeling his humilation would likely be found with Ivy using our grappling tech to enforce the point that she ain't interested?

 

[notstaged]

There's a difference between Eva actively trying to "teach" a lesson in a didactic way using her game as a medium and me engaging with a concept

I disagree. There's a pretty clear and upbringing message in ORS, and that message is if you spent most of your life making women uncomfortable and guarded your virginity like a hawk, by wasting most of your free time painting space soldiers figurines and being fat, a higher being is going to reward you for it by sending you an angelic girl who is aspiring model with raven hair and porcelain everything to fall in love with you.

 

[Bofadeezus]

So... what's the NTR content like in this?

Worth checking out?

 

[Ray_D]

True. Though why do I get the feeling his humilation would likely be found with Ivy using our grappling tech to enforce the point that she ain't interested?

I meant another specialized ground fighter would beat up jeremy, after all he is in another weight class.

 

[ffive]

This is an incredible breakthrough in science, sir. You discovered quantum uncertainty in cuckolding and created the concept of Schrodinger's Cuck. He is cucked and alpha at the same time.

I mean, the Schrodinger's Cuck was always a thing, with some NTR games keeping the act in the box and only presenting things from PoV of the MC who was not privy to the content and thus unable to determine if he's, in fact a cuck.

But pairing the cuck and the chad like some sort of nucleus instead of pure opposites? This is indeed brilliant work. Perhaps even Nobel Prize worthy discovery.

 

[SerHawkes]

I meant another specialized ground fighter would beat up jeremy, after all he is in another weight class.

True. Could be Mike, or Mark, or who the fuck ever they are theses days. Entirely forgettable they are.
1000-1 being Robert.