VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.11+p] [Zorlun]

[Puckhog27]

Well, you can always try to suggest/describe what you had in mind - though use the "ISPOILER" tag, this way, if Zorlun maybe picks it up, people will not have the surprise ruined .


Oh, I am perfectly sure you have, the same way in which someone pointed out there were authors still getting money through Patreon with incest or with bestiality (in games or animations), I mean last I remember one author of animations was on Patreon still till recently, and is true you don't see the full horse, but his Lara is getting it on with what are without doubt horse cocks... - it not only a matter of what is allowed or not, but of whether they catch you or not.

It's interesting that adult games on steam and gog contain rape. There was a game called Rape Day that caused a stir. Perhaps because it has the word rape in the title. I've seen worse.

 

[GokutheG]

It's interesting that adult games on steam and gog contain rape. There was a game called Rape Day that caused a stir. Perhaps because it has the word rape in the title. I've seen worse.

Steam/GOG are big enough and bring in enough money that cc can't really go after them in my opinion. They also have established alternatives to cc they can utilize. Steam does reject games with high-school settings for characters who they think are minors.

 

[Bob69]

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[ouch2020]

Steam does reject games with high-school settings for characters who they think are minors.

That may have to do with something else.
AFAIK in Japan they are extremely tight on having the sexual bits censored (though some censoring I have seen on some comics is a couple of black bars, so you still recognise easily it is a dick), but it seems at least insofar as the exact age is not explicitly mentioned and it is a manga, a game or at maximum an animation (not real stuff with real people), they don't intervene. Hence, the high school setting is fine for them, even if it cannot be guaranteed that the characters are not younger than 18 (in some countries, including Japan, high school ends at 18-19, so even without having to repeat, a high school student can be 18 or even 19).

In at least some, probably most, countries in the "West" either the law directly has become, or has been interpreted, as such that any depiction in any way, even if you draw it by hand yourself, of anybody that can be understood as being less than 18 of age (independently from absence of any explicit indication, or possibly even disregarding any explicit indication) in a sexual activity is considered pedopornography.
In one country I know of, it is not directly the law that says that, but a judge interpreted it that way so it could condemn some 14 years as pedopornography criminals for having used "generative AI" to create fake images/videos of some classmate or schoolmates.
I don't know all the details of that case so I cannot have a firm opinion, but honestly, I think it was too hard to condemn basically for life (because "pedopornography" is not "slander" or something similar, is something that will stay with them for the rest of their life, and there will not be any details to explain the context) adolescents for having done something (thinking about sex and girls and commenting/thinking about girls close to their age and that they see every day at school) which is normal for adolescents, though I understand the problem deriving from their use of the tools instead of just fantasizing, and the damage that can have been felt by the girls.

Apparently in some state in USA (or all of USA ? Don't think so) at a certain point they had gone further, completely forbidding without exception any depiction of any form (so, including hand drawn, renders, etc.) of people below 18 (or 21 ?) where could be seen the sexual bits, even if they were not depicted doing sexual actions - some content creators for Daz had indicate that a couple of years ago as the reason for some character having alternative textures.

If that is true, what happens if two adolescents below 18 do "sexting" with MMS with racy pictures (as it happens nowadays) in those States ?
Technically, it seems if that law is taken literally, both the girl taking the picture and sending it, and the boy receiving it, are guilty of pedopornography, it is irrelevant that she is the subject of the picture and he is her boyfriend (well, a bit like in California, even if they are both below 18 and it is consensual, if they have sex they are both criminals, though in that case is lowered to a misdemeanour).
What would happen in the same States if somone has a sexual education book, or a book for someone studying pedriatics, showing the body of an adolescent boy and/or an adolescent girl with the penis and the breast and pelvic area, even if they are not photographies, but rather sketches and so not fully realistic ?
It seems if that law is taken literally, they would also be forbidden as pedopornography, and the adolescent that has the sexual education book and his parents (if he did not buy it himself) and the medicine student would all be pedopornographers, which if confirmed, IMO is an example of starting with good principle (protecting the small ones) and going all the way to complete idiocy.
In that interpretation, a book of sexual education I had when I was adolescent, which was absolutely not about sex (I mean, was explaining pregnancy, had a sketch of fallopian tubes and ovaries, and showed separate sketches of a boy and a girl in puberty to show and explain the physical differences that start to become visible when puberty kicks in, but it was all very medical and was not describing in detail, even less depicting, sexual intercourse) would be considered pedopornography.

 

[Puckhog27]

That may have to do with something else.
AFAIK in Japan they are extremely tight on having the sexual bits censored (though some censoring I have seen on some comics is a couple of black bars, so you still recognise easily it is a dick), but it seems at least insofar as the exact age is not explicitly mentioned and it is a manga, a game or at maximum an animation (not real stuff with real people), they don't intervene. Hence, the high school setting is fine for them, even if it cannot be guaranteed that the characters are not younger than 18 (in some countries, including Japan, high school ends at 18-19, so even without having to repeat, a high school student can be 18 or even 19).

In at least some, probably most, countries in the "West" either the law directly has become, or has been interpreted, as such that any depiction in any way, even if you draw it by hand yourself, of anybody that can be understood as being less than 18 of age (independently from absence of any explicit indication, or possibly even disregarding any explicit indication) in a sexual activity is considered pedopornography.
In one country I know of, it is not directly the law that says that, but a judge interpreted it that way so it could condemn some 14 years as pedopornography criminals for having used "generative AI" to create fake images/videos of some classmate or schoolmates.
I don't know all the details of that case so I cannot have a firm opinion, but honestly, I think it was too hard to condemn basically for life (because "pedopornography" is not "slander" or something similar, is something that will stay with them for the rest of their life, and there will not be any details to explain the context) adolescents for having done something (thinking about sex and girls and commenting/thinking about girls close to their age and that they see every day at school) which is normal for adolescents, though I understand the problem deriving from their use of the tools instead of just fantasizing, and the damage that can have been felt by the girls.

Apparently in some state in USA (or all of USA ? Don't think so) at a certain point they had gone further, completely forbidding without exception any depiction of any form (so, including hand drawn, renders, etc.) of people below 18 (or 21 ?) where could be seen the sexual bits, even if they were not depicted doing sexual actions - some content creators for Daz had indicate that a couple of years ago as the reason for some character having alternative textures.

If that is true, what happens if two adolescents below 18 do "sexting" with MMS with racy pictures (as it happens nowadays) in those States ?
Technically, it seems if that law is taken literally, both the girl taking the picture and sending it, and the boy receiving it, are guilty of pedopornography, it is irrelevant that she is the subject of the picture and he is her boyfriend (well, a bit like in California, even if they are both below 18 and it is consensual, if they have sex they are both criminals, though in that case is lowered to a misdemeanour).
What would happen in the same States if somone has a sexual education book, or a book for someone studying pedriatics, showing the body of an adolescent boy and/or an adolescent girl with the penis and the breast and pelvic area, even if they are not photographies, but rather sketches and so not fully realistic ?
It seems if that law is taken literally, they would also be forbidden as pedopornography, and the adolescent that has the sexual education book and his parents (if he did not buy it himself) and the medicine student would all be pedopornographers, which if confirmed, IMO is an example of starting with good principle (protecting the small ones) and going all the way to complete idiocy.
In that interpretation, a book of sexual education I had when I was adolescent, which was absolutely not about sex (I mean, was explaining pregnancy, had a sketch of fallopian tubes and ovaries, and showed separate sketches of a boy and a girl in puberty to show and explain the physical differences that start to become visible when puberty kicks in, but it was all very medical and was not describing in detail, even less depicting, sexual intercourse) would be considered pedopornography.

I don't really like stuff with kids or pedolhilia generally, but when it's teenage boys with an attractive milf done in a humorous way I don't mind. If it's a teen or under girl usually I'm turned off. I think I don't mind the boys because I'm more focused on the milf and less on the boys in that scenario and the boys are in charge in here as well. Still, I don't really like sexual content with underage people. I'm fine with pedolhilia being against the rules.

 

[Puckhog27]

Steam/GOG are big enough and bring in enough money that cc can't really go after them in my opinion. They also have established alternatives to cc they can utilize. Steam does reject games with high-school settings for characters who they think are minors.

I see.

That makes sense.

Patron also seems pretty big these days now. There are also a lot of people using websites like subscriberstar that don't seem to get in trouble.

I've heard that the credit card companies are the ones that caused issues on patreon as their rules were against things like rape/bestiality/etc. I'm not sure why that wouldn't apply to steam or gog as they both accept payments through credit cards.

 

[GokutheG]

That may have to do with something else.
AFAIK in Japan they are extremely tight on having the sexual bits censored (though some censoring I have seen on some comics is a couple of black bars, so you still recognise easily it is a dick), but it seems at least insofar as the exact age is not explicitly mentioned and it is a manga, a game or at maximum an animation (not real stuff with real people), they don't intervene. Hence, the high school setting is fine for them, even if it cannot be guaranteed that the characters are not younger than 18 (in some countries, including Japan, high school ends at 18-19, so even without having to repeat, a high school student can be 18 or even 19).

In at least some, probably most, countries in the "West" either the law directly has become, or has been interpreted, as such that any depiction in any way, even if you draw it by hand yourself, of anybody that can be understood as being less than 18 of age (independently from absence of any explicit indication, or possibly even disregarding any explicit indication) in a sexual activity is considered pedopornography.
In one country I know of, it is not directly the law that says that, but a judge interpreted it that way so it could condemn some 14 years as pedopornography criminals for having used "generative AI" to create fake images/videos of some classmate or schoolmates.
I don't know all the details of that case so I cannot have a firm opinion, but honestly, I think it was too hard to condemn basically for life (because "pedopornography" is not "slander" or something similar, is something that will stay with them for the rest of their life, and there will not be any details to explain the context) adolescents for having done something (thinking about sex and girls and commenting/thinking about girls close to their age and that they see every day at school) which is normal for adolescents, though I understand the problem deriving from their use of the tools instead of just fantasizing, and the damage that can have been felt by the girls.

Apparently in some state in USA (or all of USA ? Don't think so) at a certain point they had gone further, completely forbidding without exception any depiction of any form (so, including hand drawn, renders, etc.) of people below 18 (or 21 ?) where could be seen the sexual bits, even if they were not depicted doing sexual actions - some content creators for Daz had indicate that a couple of years ago as the reason for some character having alternative textures.

If that is true, what happens if two adolescents below 18 do "sexting" with MMS with racy pictures (as it happens nowadays) in those States ?
Technically, it seems if that law is taken literally, both the girl taking the picture and sending it, and the boy receiving it, are guilty of pedopornography, it is irrelevant that she is the subject of the picture and he is her boyfriend (well, a bit like in California, even if they are both below 18 and it is consensual, if they have sex they are both criminals, though in that case is lowered to a misdemeanour).
What would happen in the same States if somone has a sexual education book, or a book for someone studying pedriatics, showing the body of an adolescent boy and/or an adolescent girl with the penis and the breast and pelvic area, even if they are not photographies, but rather sketches and so not fully realistic ?
It seems if that law is taken literally, they would also be forbidden as pedopornography, and the adolescent that has the sexual education book and his parents (if he did not buy it himself) and the medicine student would all be pedopornographers, which if confirmed, IMO is an example of starting with good principle (protecting the small ones) and going all the way to complete idiocy.
In that interpretation, a book of sexual education I had when I was adolescent, which was absolutely not about sex (I mean, was explaining pregnancy, had a sketch of fallopian tubes and ovaries, and showed separate sketches of a boy and a girl in puberty to show and explain the physical differences that start to become visible when puberty kicks in, but it was all very medical and was not describing in detail, even less depicting, sexual intercourse) would be considered pedopornography.

I've heard that some ai were trained on actual child abuse material and that's why they're so harsh on it.

 

[GokutheG]

I see.

That makes sense.

Patron also seems pretty big these days now. There are also a lot of people using websites like subscriberstar that don't seem to get in trouble.

I've heard that the credit card companies are the ones that caused issues on patreon as their rules were against things like rape/bestiality/etc. I'm not sure why that wouldn't apply to steam or gog as they both accept payments through credit cards.

They bring in SO much money that cc wouldn't want to screw that up for themselves especially since adult games are a small part of the games they offer. No need to rock the boat at that point. It's the same way Onlyfans had to walk back their adult content ban when that's where they make their true money and no amount of pr will ever make people think of them as a sfw platform(even though there are sfw creators there).

 

[krbrxl33i]

The update is just one scene?

 

[doccop63]

I see.

That makes sense.

Patron also seems pretty big these days now. There are also a lot of people using websites like subscriberstar that don't seem to get in trouble.

I've heard that the credit card companies are the ones that caused issues on patreon as their rules were against things like rape/bestiality/etc. I'm not sure why that wouldn't apply to steam or gog as they both accept payments through credit cards.

The credit card companies are guilty of causing a number of censorships in porn. Back in the early 70s, the "Moral Majority" put pressure on the banks to try to slow down the rapid consumption of porn, Especially after the European film "Animal Farm" began to spread into mainstream. The Real Heat began when a certain young woman, Norma Kuzma (aka Traci Lords) admitted that she was underaged when she did porn (mainly to get out of a contract when she wanted to get out of porn. Nevermind the fact that she used a fake ID. Neither her nor the person who created that ID were prosecuted.)
A lot of people lost their livelihoods and a few put in jail, because of one hot-in-the-ass teenager but the "Moral Majority" didn't focus on her. She was their excuse to push their agenda and it had the industry by the balls. So if Anyone's to blame about all of this confusion, it's the Infamous Traci Lords.

 

[Ranxerox]

The update is just one scene?

Yes..
Read the past 100 pages of the thread..

 

[Puckhog27]

The credit card companies are guilty of causing a number of censorships in porn. Back in the early 70s, the "Moral Majority" put pressure on the banks to try to slow down the rapid consumption of porn, Especially after the European film "Animal Farm" began to spread into mainstream. The Real Heat began when a certain young woman, Norma Kuzma (aka Traci Lords) admitted that she was underaged when she did porn (mainly to get out of a contract when she wanted to get out of porn. Nevermind the fact that she used a fake ID. Neither her nor the person who created that ID were prosecuted.)
A lot of people lost their livelihoods and a few put in jail, because of one hot-in-the-ass teenager but the "Moral Majority" didn't focus on her. She was their excuse to push their agenda and it had the industry by the balls. So if Anyone's to blame about all of this confusion, it's the Infamous Traci Lords.

It seems like she had a messed up life in her early years like a porn game, but real. I'm not surprised that she did such a thing. It sounds like she had mental health issues from abuse and rape. I liked her in the movie crybaby. I'd rather blame the prudes that can't separate fantasy from reality. Many of them are abusers like priests anyway because they supress their sexual desires and let them out on children and teens.

 

[Zorlun]

The update is just one scene?

Yes..
Read the past 100 pages of the thread..

Temporally, yes, branching wise there's 4:

• Post opera evening with Charles, with a naughty subscene at his place.
• Post opera evening with Nubia, with a naughty subscene at her place.
• Post opera evening with Evelyn, with a naughty subscene as Myriam and her both use the driver for some threesome fun.
• Post opera evening if you go home and don't go with Evelyn, a very short scene, but with a potential important choice for a specific ending about the shrink (Doctor Silver).

EDIT: I know it's annoying when you don't explore any other branching in the game beside your own playthrough, but that will be the last real big branching before the endings, I only a few more scenes to go now to end chapter 5.