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Don't think anyone has argued Nojiko was biologically related to MC & Nami at any point, including the poster you were replying to? That's not even the case in the Evil Modder patch.

No need to remember, I posted all the references to adopt last week when this infernal debate last arose?

As shown in the non-patched section, Nojiko was stated to have adopted them from 0.2-0.4, but since 0.4.5 there's no mention of adoption.

Why? Because as Krytax123 suggested adopted families are still families, and Patreon treats adoptive relatives just like biological relatives for the purposes of their incest assessment. If Nojiko adopts MC & Nami they're siblings, regardless of being blood relatives or not, which would be a red flag for Patreon. Even with Nojiko not being a LI adoption is still an issue. So Ocean changed the story so they're no longer adopted in the Patreaon version.

Unfortunately this makes Nojiko's concerns about the nature of the MC & Nami relationship, and their own conversations about their intimacy being taboo nonsensical. If they're not a family, nothing to see here.

Evil modder to the rescue, where Nojiko adoption remains, MC & Nami are biological siblings.
I was reacting more to the comment even earlier:

And that right there is your undeniable clue that those titles are ONLY for Patreon to leave Ocean alone


NO COUNTRY on planet earth gives young orphans to a random homeowner.

Gov't : Do you own a house?
Nojiko : Yes.
Gov't : Great here are kids, you now have "tenants"

STUPID unrealistic dumb It does not happen. If you want to argue that Nami and MC are not siblings there are 100 clues for that as well but there is no possible way "Landlady" just suddenly has random children renting(??) her rooms.




PEACE
Krytax123 was implying Noji potentially a secondary role that was different to her apparent role - mentioning the Landlady trope being a codeword which is definitely a trope on this site, and also, being unaware that there was in fact mention of Nika and Nami's parents in official terms, so I was just mentioning that for any of roles Noji can have, none of them are other than what can be found directly in the current text, regardless of version. Ocean seems to have been vague only recently, but landlady-ism is a poor way to describe Noji in any version of the game, as is innuendo that a Noji wouldn't pay for their keep (as a literal landlady). In every version she has some level of guardianship - the screencaps I've posted show that Nika considers her more than someone who takes his rent, but she's no surrogate in his eyes.

And I agree with your explanation of the reasoning for dropping the adoption side of it. I'd assumed it was changed to remove even the suspicion of a connection other than guardianship.

I was more pointing out that people want the idea of a 'landlady' regardless of the text's direct messaging, as the trope playing into their potential fetish, which isn't supported ...having said that Noji being mentioned in the patched version as 'My mothers best friend, Nojiko, adopted us' implies something else which is also very trope like tha has been used in WiaB, as it's not in the unpatched version of Ch5, based on your rather detailed compilation. So the evil modder potentially has a very special idea of exactly what they want the modded relationship to be.
 
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If they were biological siblings, what is Nojiko's reason for hiding this situation from them? This will be explained in the future, and you can tell Nojiko has a good reason. But then we give the story a certain direction in our own way (which leads to a significant deviation from the original story). Each theory here makes assumptions about what might happen in the future, based on the plot in which certain events occur. But coming out with a definitive judgment and saying "biological siblings" has neither evidence nor reference. Nami is one of the main LIs. Nami's and Nika's biological families may be connected and may even be alive. But I definitely don't think they are siblings. Nika may be half-sister with Ayua, but she will not have a connection with Nami.
Only caveat I'd say is that (as Meushi and others have mentioned) Noji is world-wise enough to read patreon's fine print; but we know Nika can't remember the start date of college, and Nami just believes what any random stranger says about current fashions. Noji might be preventing them from all kinds of legal woes that they are blissfully unaware of in her duties as *'non disclosed caregiver'.

Also, the pesky evil modder team who keeps turning Ocean's wholesome game that has no sex into some kind of implied thing going bump in the night - which makes it really hard for pirates to know whether or not the version they're playing is actually approved by Ocean. As earlier posted, Ocean terms them room mates, so all other nouns are incorrect, even when Ocean's own writing implies anything else it is clearly just a subjective reading.

In seriousness, the tension between Nika and Nami is weird if they are both separately fostered. Not impossible to imagine, but really over dramatic. Play Nami's path and ask yourself why does the drama exist?

It is indeed the case that we're just spouting theories while we wait for the plot to uncover the dots, and then wait to see how Ocean connects them.

I mean post rework WiaB Willi might be impotent, and Lucas cucks him 100% and all of SG's children are due to Willi feeling pity because Kat body shamed Lucas that one breakfast. Or Emilio is actually only gay now to prevent him from cucking every other MC in the Oceanverse because he prefers owning gold watches to endless child support. Name for Ocean's third game: Emilio's Cannon: Origins./S Highly unlikely and all options I feel bad for even sarcastically mentioning, but I can't even rule out alien tentacles after the tabletop session :sneaky:
 

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can't find any compress version.
is there any compress version?
Search the thread for compressed, but because people ask rather than search, each request pushes the compressed version down to maybe the third page of results? Never give up, you can also search the thread by frequent file hosts, jus make sure to search with most recent first.

Summer's Gone [Ch.5 BETA] [Oceanlab]

COMPRESSED: Win/Linux/Mac:
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Yet once again...that doesn't apply to WiAB where they definitely are, 100% siblings with a patch made by Ocean. Why won't people just accept what is.
Because plausible deniabilty is a useful thing; it keeps newspapers in business and politicians in power. Evil modders be damned, they're just nefarious and changing things to confuse pirates./s
 

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Search the thread for compressed, but because people ask rather than search, each request pushes the compressed version down to maybe the third page of results? Never give up, you can also search the thread by frequent file hosts, jus make sure to search with most recent first.




Because plausible deniabilty is a useful thing; it keeps newspapers in business and politicians in power. Evil modders be damned, they're just nefarious and changing things to confuse pirates./s
Do you have a link to the compressed versions of ** 2, 3 and 4 full?

I think I've seen someone post on pages 1000's - 1200's, but I forget the exact pages.

just want to add to my SG collection. :LOL:
 

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Do you have a link to the compressed versions of ** 2, 3 and 4 full?

I think I've seen someone post on pages 1000's - 1200's, but I forget the exact pages.

just want to add to my SG collection. :LOL:
Here's my compressed version of Summer's Gone Chapter 1a for PC and Mac.
Original download size are 1.19GB.

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There ya go, there's at least one working file host in each post. Didn't look for 3.5 though :sneaky:

Edit: Sorry you said full, well, it took me about 5 min to search and check for working threads and all I cam up with was a bunch of betas, but there are actual posts with the full, I'll let you go on a treasure hunt - I stopped when I saw this pick of Sasha's booty, and that's a true pirate's treasure :)
 
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I don't know if Robin and Nika's tabloid status has ever been discussed here, but for some reason I can't shake the feeling that Robin is up to something. How did the bathroom rumor spread? Why were the tabloids camera ready when Robin took Nika out to talk? I think Robin had a hand in all of this, but what his motive was is still a mystery.
 
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I don't know if Robin and Nika's tabloid status has ever been discussed here, but for some reason I can't shake the feeling that Robin is up to something. How did the bathroom rumor spread? Why were the tabloids camera ready when Robin took Nika out to talk? I think Robin had a hand in all of this, but what his motive was is still a mystery.
I don't think so. And we'll probably see that newspaper incident in season 2. I just hope Bella doesn't misunderstand this because of the photo of Nika looking like she touched Robin's ass.
 

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just want to make sure.

ch 1 by Regium
ch 2 by Ocean & Regium
ch 3 by Ocean
ch 3.5 by Ocean, start of rework ?
ch 4 by Ocean, rework of ch 1 complete ?
ch 4.5 by Ocean, reworked ch 2 by 2/3 ?
ch 5 beta by Ocean, rework of ch 2 and modification of ch 3 and 3.5 ?


BTW, it's been a while since I played the first SG chapter, I forgot where the ending chapters 1 - 4 are.
 
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Yet once again...that doesn't apply to WiAB where they definitely are, 100% siblings with a patch made by Ocean. Why won't people just accept what is.
We do accept what is. MC and Nami HAVE TO BE BLOOD RELATED somehow for there to be the tiniest shred of logic to their dynamic and relationship. And therefore, the story itself.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hold Ocean's writing and creative decisions in any kind of high regard whatsoever, but this game would reach record levels of irrationality and lack of logic if they would turn out to be unrelated at all.
 
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I was reacting more to the comment even earlier:



Krytax123 was implying Noji potentially a secondary role that was different to her apparent role - mentioning the Landlady trope being a codeword which is definitely a trope on this site, and also, being unaware that there was in fact mention of Nika and Nami's parents in official terms, so I was just mentioning that for any of roles Noji can have, none of them are other than what can be found directly in the current text, regardless of version. Ocean seems to have been vague only recently, but landlady-ism is a poor way to describe Noji in any version of the game, as is innuendo that a Noji wouldn't pay for their keep (as a literal landlady). In every version she has some level of guardianship - the screencaps I've posted show that Nika considers her more than someone who takes his rent, but she's no surrogate in his eyes.

And I agree with your explanation of the reasoning for dropping the adoption side of it. I'd assumed it was changed to remove even the suspicion of a connection other than guardianship.
Just to clarify: I wasnt unaware of Nika and Nami's parents being mentioned, it happened multiple times in the story, my whole post was about Nika and Nami and i never mentioned Noji and dont see her really mentioned in the post i replied to now that im awake again.

I was referring to the discord-screenshot from ocean someone posted earlier describing the official relationships as Landlady and Roommates in my post.

Which is only nessecary for Ocean (to use arbitary titles like that) because incest is involved.
 
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We do accept what is. MC and Nami HAVE TO BE BLOOD RELATED somehow for there to be the tinyest shred of logic to their dynamic and relationship. And therefore, the story itself.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hold Ocean's writing and creative decisions in any kind of high regard whatsoever, but this game would reach record levels of irrationality and lack of logic if they would turn out to be unrelated at all.
And Ocean has said they are not. What is the fucking problem exactly? Why would he lie, given he admits it for WiAB? Why? Hmmm? That makes even less sense than this theory. I couldn't care less either way btw...just saying what is...which some folk have a seemingly hard time accepting (though no surprise around this place).

As for rationality and logic...you have actually read both VN's right? Right? lol...I love them both (WiAB more to be fair) but looking for rationality in either lmao...hahaha..,.that's a good one.
 
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If they were biological siblings, what is Nojiko's reason for hiding this situation from them? This will be explained in the future, and you can tell Nojiko has a good reason. But then we give the story a certain direction in our own way (which leads to a significant deviation from the original story). Each theory here makes assumptions about what might happen in the future, based on the plot in which certain events occur. But coming out with a definitive judgment and saying "biological siblings" has neither evidence nor reference. Nami is one of the main LIs. Nami's and Nika's biological families may be connected and may even be alive. But I definitely don't think they are siblings. Nika may be half-sister with Ayua, but she will not have a connection with Nami.
Haha sweet summer child. Nika and Nami are siblings, either they are both related to the Zane's (which they are imo) or none of them is. Nojiko isnt hiding it from them, Ocean is hiding it from patreon. Nojiko, Nami and Nika are all aware about the relationship between each others and how they are related to each other it just cant be stated.

Katie went to the bookclub because of Nami (she didnt knew about Nika), Nami wears Leia's earring, there are more hints linking Nami to the Zane's compared to Nika at this point.

There would be no need at all to create the Nika/Nami relationship this convoluted if they werent related. Why would Zara ask Nika about Nami being a redhead if they were unrelated and so many other things which are completly nonsensial if they were in fact just roommates.
 

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Just to clarify: I wasnt unaware of Nika and Nami's parents being mentioned, it happened multiple times in the story, my hole post was about Nika and Nami and i never mentioned Noji and dont see her really mentioned in the post i replied to now that im awake again.

I was referring to the discord-screenshot from ocean someone posted earlier describing the official relationships as Landlady and Roommates in my post.

Which is only nessecary for Ocean (to use arbitary titles like that) because incest is involved.
Yeah, I got that from your post, I was making more a generalised comment about Landlady =/= mom porn trope, as other post were using landlady-ism. Sorry for using your post as a springboard - I didn't want to quote all the posts, I'm long winded enough as it is.
 

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Haha sweet summer child. Nika and Nami are siblings, either they are both related to the Zane's (which they are imo) or none of them is. Nojiko isnt hiding it from them, Ocean is hiding it from patreon. Nojiko, Nami and Nika are all aware about the relationship between each others and how they are related to each other it just cant be stated.

Katie went to the bookclub because of Nami (she didnt knew about Nika), Nami wears Leia's earring, there are more hints linking Nami to the Zane's compared to Nika at this point.

There would be no need at all to create the Nika/Nami relationship this convoluted if they werent related. Why would Zara ask Nika about Nami being a redhead if they were unrelated and so many other things which are completly nonsensial if they were in fact just roommates.
Ocean can say what he likes on Discord...Patreon has no authority over Discord. Also, for the four hundreth fucking time....Ocean freely admits the relations in WiAB....which btw...is on Patreon (and makes the official patch)....so why would he 'fudge' about SG (and not make a patch for it himself)? Hmmm?
 

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Ocean can say what he likes on Discord...Patreon has no authority over Discord. Also, for the four hundreth fucking time....Ocean freely admits the relations in WiAB....which btw...is on Patreon (and makes the official patch)....so why would he 'fudge' about SG (and not make a patch for itself himself)? Hmmm?
1) he don't want risk maybe somebody use this evidence against him
2) and why every SG release come with patch in seconds what a "mod" we have :KEK:
 

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Ocean can say what he likes on Discord...Patreon has no authority over Discord. Also, for the four hundreth fucking time....Ocean freely admits the relations in WiAB....which btw...is on Patreon (and makes the official patch)....so why would he 'fudge' about SG (and not make a patch for it himself)? Hmmm?
You can reply it as often as you want, youre still wrong.

Show me one quote of Ocean admiting to Incest in wiab (hint: you wont find it dude) and the patch for wiab isnt official and he never aknowledged being linked to the patch.

How do you want to know that he made the wiab patch but not the sg patch? There arent any incest patches on his patreon at all. I told you about this stuff already and you will chose to ignore it again anyway.

Show us ocean officially admitting to incest in wiab if your claim is true, you wont be able to.

He handles both avns exactly the same regarding incest and its the smart way to do considering how many devs at the moment getting banned/their sites checked on patreon because of incest-relations in their avns.
 
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