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I was reacting more to the comment even earlier:Don't think anyone has argued Nojiko was biologically related to MC & Nami at any point, including the poster you were replying to? That's not even the case in the Evil Modder patch.
No need to remember, I posted all the references to adopt last week when this infernal debate last arose?
As shown in the non-patched section, Nojiko was stated to have adopted them from 0.2-0.4, but since 0.4.5 there's no mention of adoption.
Why? Because as Krytax123 suggested adopted families are still families, and Patreon treats adoptive relatives just like biological relatives for the purposes of their incest assessment. If Nojiko adopts MC & Nami they're siblings, regardless of being blood relatives or not, which would be a red flag for Patreon. Even with Nojiko not being a LI adoption is still an issue. So Ocean changed the story so they're no longer adopted in the Patreaon version.
Unfortunately this makes Nojiko's concerns about the nature of the MC & Nami relationship, and their own conversations about their intimacy being taboo nonsensical. If they're not a family, nothing to see here.
Evil modder to the rescue, where Nojiko adoption remains, MC & Nami are biological siblings.
Krytax123 was implying Noji potentially a secondary role that was different to her apparent role - mentioning the Landlady trope being a codeword which is definitely a trope on this site, and also, being unaware that there was in fact mention of Nika and Nami's parents in official terms, so I was just mentioning that for any of roles Noji can have, none of them are other than what can be found directly in the current text, regardless of version. Ocean seems to have been vague only recently, but landlady-ism is a poor way to describe Noji in any version of the game, as is innuendo that a Noji wouldn't pay for their keep (as a literal landlady). In every version she has some level of guardianship - the screencaps I've posted show that Nika considers her more than someone who takes his rent, but she's no surrogate in his eyes.And that right there is your undeniable clue that those titles are ONLY for Patreon to leave Ocean alone
NO COUNTRY on planet earth gives young orphans to a random homeowner.
Gov't : Do you own a house?
Nojiko : Yes.
Gov't : Great here are kids, you now have "tenants"
STUPID unrealistic dumb It does not happen. If you want to argue that Nami and MC are not siblings there are 100 clues for that as well but there is no possible way "Landlady" just suddenly has random children renting(??) her rooms.
PEACE
And I agree with your explanation of the reasoning for dropping the adoption side of it. I'd assumed it was changed to remove even the suspicion of a connection other than guardianship.
I was more pointing out that people want the idea of a 'landlady' regardless of the text's direct messaging, as the trope playing into their potential fetish, which isn't supported ...having said that Noji being mentioned in the patched version as 'My mothers best friend, Nojiko, adopted us' implies something else which is also very trope like tha has been used in WiaB, as it's not in the unpatched version of Ch5, based on your rather detailed compilation. So the evil modder potentially has a very special idea of exactly what they want the modded relationship to be.