lnppo

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You're on F95Zone. You're browsing the Summertime Saga thread. You're awaiting the next update, which will hopefully add some of Diane's content into the game (but you doubt it will finish her storyline). The code for the game is a mess, and is allegedly the core driver slowing down development. The dating system hasn't been introduced to the game yet. The lifeguard only has one h-scene. Judith doesn't have a storyline yet. People are arguing about whether or not DC is a scammer. The guy from The Apprentice is US president.

The year is 2017.
Read my signature to learn the truth....

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niceXnips

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So here's what I don't understand. This game has been in "tech update" dev hell for fucken aaaaaaaaages, and in the meanwhile it's had some sprinklings of content, but what's the whole point of this if the continued development is gonna keep up this pace? I'm gonna be a fucken old man with kids and grandkids at this point before the game's done.

What's the bottleneck in development here? What can we as consumers do to help speed this process up?
 
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MurkyTurtle

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So here's what I don't understand. This game has been in "tech update" dev hell for fucken aaaaaaaaages, and in the meanwhile it's had some sprinklings of content, but what's the whole point of this if the continued development is gonna keep up this pace? I'm gonna be a fucken old man with kids and grandkids at this point before the game's done.

What's the bottleneck in development here? What can we as consumers do to help speed this process up?
The bottleneck at this point is basically DC and his piss-poor management skills. Unless you've got like $10M lying around to buy him out, fire him, and take over development yourself with a new team there's really not much you or anyone else can do to speed up the process.
 
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vks017

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The bottleneck is the developer is making a lot of cash doing this less than a part time job. Any other explanation offered simply is his cultists refusing to see the obvious. Many would do similar if they were in his position and he is too much of a perfectionist to delegate the work to others.
Sure poor project management could have been an excuse a few years ago but even the worst project manager in the world could have done better by now if there was motivation.
 
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Count Morado

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I'm gonna be a fucken old man with kids and grandkids at this point before the game's done.

What's the bottleneck in development here? What can we as consumers do to help speed this process up?
Dark Cookie has no plans to "finish" Summertime Saga. He has said so since at least 2017. As long as he has ideas, enjoys drawing characters and scenes, and fans want more content then he has said he'll keep going.

The code is the bottleneck. The posing of the thousands of images to the new display ratio is the bottleneck. Dark Cookie not being a good project manager is the bottleneck. Wanting to make Ren'Py do things most developers don't do with the engine is the bottleneck. There are others.

You are not a consumer. I am not a consumer. We are not consumers. We may consume the content, but we do not pay compensation in exchange for the game and therefore we do not meet the definition, legal or otherwise, of consumers. Dark Cookie makes the game free to everyone to download from his website and thus there are no consumers.

There are subscribers and the get other things for their membership. The game is not one of them.

They have already done what they can do to attempt to speed up the process. A number of them continue to bug him for content. However, he has also told people if they aren't happy with the progress, they should cancel their subscription. He has stated he gets bitched at by some people for doing what other people want and the when he does something else, he gets bitched at by another group of people. So he'll do what he wants, and what makes him happy, because he'll get bitched at no matter what.

And mass subscription cancelations won't do anything, because he's already got his bank to live off for many years. He'd just have to let go of the others and work on the progress on his own... Even slower than now.
Many would do similar if they were in his position and he is too much of a perfectionist to delegate the work to others.
Truth.
 

birikoni

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Oct 2, 2019
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The 6th update is here!

As we mentioned previously, not all of the Tech Update content is available yet, but we are releasing new content every 2 months.

This cycle we have been focusing on upgrading Debbie's content, and we're now in a position to share with you the first 20 quests.

Following this release, we are now working on the remaining last part of her content which will include her last animated scenes and will be released in the next update (in 2 months).

In the meantime we hope that her story showcases the level of quality we intend to keep throughout the rest of her content.

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Changelog (wip.5787):

  • Continued Debbie's route with one original, two reworked, and two upgraded quests.
  • Added another level of escalation into Debbie's recurring shower event.
  • Allowed three new lewd animations, intended for future quests, to be previewed early.
  • Restored the first two quests of Diane's route, including gardening mini game.
  • Wired up Diane's early game button in her garden.
  • Overhauled a large number of assets and scenes that occur on Debbie's couch.
  • Expanded the forest slightly. Don't worry about it, nothing see there. >_>;;
  • Created a new blend mode to help simulate dimming of light sources.
  • Combined some cutscene assets, allowing art to be upgraded while saving space.
  • Slowed speed of vertical pan the first time Anon dreams of Debbie.
  • Mitigated issue impacting cancellation of auto-nav in deferred events.
  • Adjusted some character information in the contacts app, and added Diane.
  • Spaced out the timeline between a couple of existing Debbie quests.
  • Made a minor cutscene variation for the lotion variant of Deb's Mall event.
  • Applied patch to prevent incorrect rendering of some visual effects on Android.
  • Tweaked the positioning system to work better with nested character rigs.
  • Factored out some magic numbers to aid readability as the codebase further expands.
  • Updated some nighttime Jenny scenes with a tint to better fit the time of day.
  • Fixed incorrect zoning of Diane's house which could break some quests.
  • Resolved a soft-lock in Miss Okita's route concerning Mrs. Smith's office.
  • Altered projection shader to circumvent very rare bug in some graphics drivers.
  • Improved text layout of background information in contacts app.
  • Corrected various typos in existing dialogue.
 

Obifrost005

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So here's what I do5n't understand. This game has been in "tech update" dev hell for fucken aaaaaaaaages, and in the meanwhile it's had some sprinklings of content, but what's the whole point of this if the continued development is gonna keep up this pace? I'm gonna be a fucken old man with kids and grandkids at this point before the game's done.

What's the bottleneck in development here? What can we as consumers do to help speed this process up?
TL;DR. Pretty much like any other Kickstarter level crowdfunded scam project:

>The dev pushed passion and vision till late 2010s/early 2020;
>Passion and vision >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sweet sweet money. "No. NO. I'm not greedy" - dev said;
>Late 2010s come;
>Th dev: F you all, I'm going to milk you to death, cos I can and everyone will suck up;
>The fandom --> OK, but, at least, deliver mommy Debbie content?
>the dev: "OK", but will seperate her content for many years pulled from the OG version?
>The fandom: "REEEEEEEEEEEE"
>The dev: IDC, GL, I HF with my income, which is like ahhhhhhh uhhhh mmhhhh worth of funding 25% if not more of the projects on F95?
>The dev: also I CAN, cos yall return for mommy Debbie :devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish:
 
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arkhamtheknight

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Meh, didn't expect much but not going to something new isn't a surprise anymore.

See you in 2032 where it will be fully completed but still getting slow ass updates.

Truthfully it won't even make it to then before the people making this gives up and abandons it completely.
 
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