VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[jjtom000]

I could be wrong, but a third party only jumps in and plays a major part if you are lacking in "ColeWinPoints" which depends on correct choices and a skill check. On the perfect run, Liz/Amber only shows up to deliriously question Cole (much to his confusion) and absorb a tiny amount of power before being blown away. The other two routes involve a third party needing to jump in to help and a dead end (I personally haven't seen these, will need to view them during my replay.)

I checked the walkthrough and my run was perfect. My point of "Limber saving our asses" was referring to her teleporting Deyrl and MC away. Without Limber's intervention Deyrl would've met certain death on Cole's hand while MC can do nothing but watch due to Cole's Heat Zone, and then MC would be next as he was frozen and about to be erased by Cole chest beam before Limber teleported him away, and even if he somehow lives without Limber's help he still stands no chance against Cole without Deyrl's stone(and maybe Limber weakening his power) and still dies. So yeah Limber did much more than causing Cole some confusion. We were actually fucked without her.

 

[jjtom000]

Some of the arguments about power and skill are too simple, there are a number of factors, power and skill just stand out because they are things we the audience can visually measure, but there could be all sorts of factors that Weird will decide matter or matter more, some powers are just better, some powers are a bad match up for another, for instance even if the MC reached level 4, if he doesn't get a handle on handling electric, a level 3 Met would wipe the floor with him. Nico is going to dominate someone who could be completely immortal and have near limitless strength but struggle with someone who is very agile. Then there could be unknown factors, that we are still only guessing at, how much does the MC's regeneration place him above the average person of his power level, how much does Alice's destructive power?

Then of absolute critical importance, the power of plot, things need to happen for the plot to continue, and some of these power levels could just be pulled out of the authors ass.

For us the readers, Cole had more power, the MC made up the difference by fighting with smarts, and you could also say, a powerset that wasn't completely at the Mercy of Cole's, so it works within the story that he can beat Cole.

Yeah being able to survive your head getting exploded was hell of an advantage against Cole. As Ella said just surviving Cole's power would be hell for most SH, so it's somewhat understandable that he has such pathetic skills given he probably never needed it to win a fight. It's also the same reason why Danica has single digital skill point(even lower than Cole lol). Suffering from success one might say.

 

[twicethefunn]

Yeah being able to survive your head getting exploded was hell of an advantage against Cole. As Ella said just surviving Cole's power would be hell for most SH, so it's somewhat understandable that he has such pathetic skills given he probably never needed it to win a fight. It's also the same reason why Danica has single digital skill point(even lower than Cole lol). Suffering from success one might say.

Reminds me of Frieza from DBZ. He was just naturally absurdly strong, so he'd never once trained in his life. When he finally actually tried training in DBS, he become exponentially more dangerous. I imagine once Cole heals (if he hasn't already, how long has the gang been in the monster world exactly?) then he'll probably put some serious effort into improving himself after being defeated by someone he sees as lesser. Either that or he'll be a petulant child and make up a thousand excuses.

 

[Blaze_Lumini]

Reminds me of Frieza from DBZ. He was just naturally absurdly strong, so he'd never once trained in his life. When he finally actually tried training in DBS, he become exponentially more dangerous. I imagine once Cole heals (if he hasn't already, how long has the gang been in the monster world exactly?) then he'll probably put some serious effort into improving himself after being defeated by someone he sees as lesser. Either that or he'll be a petulant child and make up a thousand excuses.

That's assuming Cole walks away from Tanos' surgery table (Read: cutting board) sane and in one piece. Considering Cole was the only one among the siblings to know Tanos' true nature and the fact that Cole had already crossed Tanos, I highly doubt it. Tanos had already contemplated bringing Cole in line, and he was given free access to do it in the worst possible way. And to think, Cole's siblings happily delivered him to Tanos for "treatment". Very much karma for being an ass and arrogantly thinking he could take on anybody on his own.

 

[jjtom000]

It looks like Weirdworld forgot about the square-cube law. He took the scaling factor between a monster and a human for height and applied it to mass, but forgot that that only works if you only increase size on one axis. If these monsters were all extremely skinny, that would be the right mass, but they're not, so they're ridiculously low density.

Someone needs to tell WW to fix this lol. These weight data sticks out like a sore thumb in his usually convincing enough writing of maths and physics.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

That's assuming Cole walks away from Tanos' surgery table (Read: cutting board) sane and in one piece. Considering Cole was the only one among the siblings to know Tanos' true nature and the fact that Cole had already crossed Tanos, I highly doubt it. Tanos had already contemplated bringing Cole in line, and he was given free access to do it in the worst possible way. And to think, Cole's siblings happily delivered him to Tanos for "treatment". Very much karma for being an ass and arrogantly thinking he could take on anybody on his own.

Yeah, the way Tanos says that he's going to fix every last detail wrong with Cole and make him better than ever does not suggest a genuine desire to heal him, to me. I think he's going to turn Cole into a Chimera under his control. Tanos likes lies of omission where he technically tells the truth and just lets people assume something different from what he meant. And Cole's free will would certainly be something Tanos would see as something wrong with him. Turning him into some zombified attack dog feels worryingly plausible. I can easily imagine a scenario where the MC starts a rematch with Chimera Cole only to realize something's wrong when he notices that Cole isn't screaming about how he hates the MC and will be The One.

 

[One_Black_Sun]

Yeah but I meant in comparison to the Mc, who's still a level 3. By the time the Mc reaches level four too the time gap will be pretty substantial.

Right. I forgot about the huge time gap.

 

[jjtom000]

That's assuming Cole walks away from Tanos' surgery table (Read: cutting board) sane and in one piece. Considering Cole was the only one among the siblings to know Tanos' true nature and the fact that Cole had already crossed Tanos, I highly doubt it. Tanos had already contemplated bringing Cole in line, and he was given free access to do it in the worst possible way. And to think, Cole's siblings happily delivered him to Tanos for "treatment". Very much karma for being an ass and arrogantly thinking he could take on anybody on his own.

I still don't understand the reason of the drastically different attitudes to Tanos between Cole's and other Ella's kids given they more or less went through the same thing.

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

I feel dumb even asking this, but is there ever a scene of MC trying to turn into rubber or something to see if electricity still has any effect? I'm sure it wouldn't work, but has he ever even tried?

Like... it would be fucking hilarious if after an entire game of worrying about it, he just uses Gomu Gomu No Super Mega Death Spear of Doom and whacks Met across the country

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

I feel dumb even asking this, but is there ever a scene of MC trying to turn into rubber or something to see if electricity still has any effect? I'm sure it wouldn't work, but has he ever even tried?

Like... it would be fucking hilarious if after an entire game of worrying about it, he just uses Gomu Gomu No Super Mega Death Spear of Doom and whacks Met across the country

he's too stupid for that

 

[jjtom000]

I feel dumb even asking this, but is there ever a scene of MC trying to turn into rubber or something to see if electricity still has any effect? I'm sure it wouldn't work, but has he ever even tried?

Like... it would be fucking hilarious if after an entire game of worrying about it, he just uses Gomu Gomu No Super Mega Death Spear of Doom and whacks Met across the country

He said he tried it and it didn't work. He explodes coming into contact with electricity no matter what material he turns into.

 

[DecadentDesires]

I feel dumb even asking this, but is there ever a scene of MC trying to turn into rubber or something to see if electricity still has any effect? I'm sure it wouldn't work, but has he ever even tried?

Like... it would be fucking hilarious if after an entire game of worrying about it, he just uses Gomu Gomu No Super Mega Death Spear of Doom and whacks Met across the countr

he's too stupid for that

He has. Can't remember what scene he discusses it. but he said, "It didn't work." It's an unconscious weakness he inherited from his mother.

Yeah like jjtom000 said it still explodes.

 

[Dipasimaan]

He has. Can't remember what scene he discusses it. but he said, "It didn't work." It's an unconscious weakness he inherited from his mother.

Yeah like jjtom000 said it still explodes.

There's also the scene earlier on where he tries to copy the materials from a firefighter's suit so as to fight his weakness to fire but just like rubber it doesn't work

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

He has. Can't remember what scene he discusses it. but he said, "It didn't work." It's an unconscious weakness he inherited from his mother.

Yeah like jjtom000 said it still explodes.

i wonder if he can get rid of it through enough training or when he reaches a certain level

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

There's also the scene earlier on where he tries to copy the materials from a firefighter's suit so as to fight his weakness to fire but just like rubber it doesn't work

wasn't that when he was level 2 or something?

 

[DecadentDesires]

There's also the scene earlier on where he tries to copy the materials from a firefighter's suit so as to fight his weakness to fire but just like rubber it doesn't work

That's before Kenny, or Jake I think. He has difficulty, making synthetic materials probably due to being a split spawn. These are things Ella seems to have much less of a problem with. He will be more capable of that now, as level 3 or later when he evolves to level 4.

 

[DecadentDesires]

i wonder if he can get rid of it through enough training or when he reaches a certain level

He almost certainly will, and will probably use that electric eel adaptation at some point.

 

[Maulis47]

That's before Kenny, or Jake I think. He has difficulty, making synthetic materials probably due to being a split spawn. These are things Ella seems to have much less of a problem with. He will be more capable of that now, as level 3 or later when he evolves to level 4.

There is also the huge difference that Ella had to build everything up from the ground and learn while mc just copied.

 

[BenoTF25]

Wait this is some interesting info I don't think I remember this. Do you remember when did she say that?

It was when the MC was looking around the Orphanage, it was a cellphone call if i remember correctly

 

[BenoTF25]

Man I just noticed the weights of the big monsters are really messed up. I'm convinced the monsters were made of styrofoam or sth.

I mean, the MC noticed that the Asura all fucked up by a previous fight with other A Class still moved super fast, but yeah, is a bit funny to know than that Behemot, almost 100 meters tell weight less than a whale