ahtabom

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They update the server here on the forum, but the guy doesn't update the game...

and he said that E13 and E14 were ready in 2023...
just run some tests...
just fix some things...
just package it...

he was already packaging it, but he realized it was the wrong version of renpy and was going to do it again...

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"I'm going to unpause payments because the end of E13 comes out this weekend" (he said, 4~5 weeks ago)

"I managed to solve everything, now the final E13 update will be out this weekend" (he said, 3~4 weeks ago)...

"I'll post it when it's ready"

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Badjourasmix

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Losing arguement here though.
My point was never about how active people are on this forum or the games they play. It was about the unhinged behaviour people here seem to engage in and support. Which the person that responded to me either didn't understand or just decided to ignore. My original comment was about the Katie chick doing weird stuff like saying she wants to dox BD and shit like that. If people here support that kind of behaviour then yea, they should go outside and touch some grass.
 

Niuul

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My point was never about how active people are on this forum or the games they play. It was about the unhinged behaviour people here seem to engage in and support. Which the person that responded to me either didn't understand or just decided to ignore. My original comment was about the Katie chick doing weird stuff like saying she wants to dox BD and shit like that. If people here support that kind of behaviour then yea, they should go outside and touch some grass.
Yeah, doxing is a no-no. If they want to try going through Patreons ToS or whatever it was to try and get them (BD) either closed down or put some fire under their feet then that's whatever. Doubt it'll go anywhere but more power to them if they wanna actually try.
 

shamtiiomi

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My point was never about how active people are on this forum or the games they play. It was about the unhinged behaviour people here seem to engage in and support. Which the person that responded to me either didn't understand or just decided to ignore. My original comment was about the Katie chick doing weird stuff like saying she wants to dox BD and shit like that. If people here support that kind of behaviour then yea, they should go outside and touch some grass.
if only ,i could sue him i will do it,...i understand kate and i dont support that kind of bahaviour but,...i will gladly kick his ass without thinking twice,...he is a lucky guy that leave in a country with so much laws,...i dont say laws are bad all societies need them but some are so stupid that you can go away from killing someone bcs a unforunate technisism thats all im gonna say about this case,....bd deserves all the bad that he sow,so lets not dwell on the matter....
 
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Taylan13

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Actual unhinged behaviour. That katie chick needs to be in a mental institution. Also there is nothing in the game that breaks their rules. If you don't like how he is doing things then just stop supporting him lol, it's not that hard.
My point was never about how active people are on this forum or the games they play. It was about the unhinged behaviour people here seem to engage in and support. Which the person that responded to me either didn't understand or just decided to ignore. My original comment was about the Katie chick doing weird stuff like saying she wants to dox BD and shit like that. If people here support that kind of behaviour then yea, they should go outside and touch some grass.
While I generally support this girl, Katie, I'm not going to hide the truth. She's clearly not in the best mental state, and she even mentioned getting therapy for some trauma from her youth, but to say she deserves to be put in a mental institution is a bit of a stretch.

BD's behavior over the years is indefensible. Well, there are always those who will jump into the fire for him. Katie's hatred for BD isn't unjustified, especially not her.

You probably don't remember or conveniently forgot, it doesn't matter, but BD literally manipulated her. The girl was here for a few days defending him after she'd already had a problem with him. The girl claimed BD had changed and that everything would get better.

Many of us here told her that she was being used to defend him on the forum, but she didn't see it or didn't want to see it, something that often happens when someone is manipulated who doesn't want to see it. The thing is, sooner rather than later, she realized that BD is very good at manipulating people.

Finally, the game may not have anything that breaks Patreon's rules, but the developer does. Patreon has policies against deceptive use of the platform, especially if a creator is collecting money without fulfilling their promises. In its Trust and Safety section, Patreon mentions that creators must be transparent and deliver the promised rewards or benefits to their backers. This is especially true if the behavior is repeated over time.

That said, I don't think anything will come of it unless it's reported multiple times.

Also, I'm against affecting the income stream of developers and content creators in general. Yes, I think if Patreon cuts off the money... BD will have to work hard to recover its income level on Subscribestar. The thing is: with the way they're acting, it's highly doubtful that will happen. it's safer to say that WVM would be abandoned at that point.
 

Wagwan1891

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While I generally support this girl, Katie, I'm not going to hide the truth. She's clearly not in the best mental state, and she even mentioned getting therapy for some trauma from her youth, but to say she deserves to be put in a mental institution is a bit of a stretch.

BD's behavior over the years is indefensible. Well, there are always those who will jump into the fire for him. Katie's hatred for BD isn't unjustified, especially not her.

You probably don't remember or conveniently forgot, it doesn't matter, but BD literally manipulated her. The girl was here for a few days defending him after she'd already had a problem with him. The girl claimed BD had changed and that everything would get better.

Many of us here told her that she was being used to defend him on the forum, but she didn't see it or didn't want to see it, something that often happens when someone is manipulated who doesn't want to see it. The thing is, sooner rather than later, she realized that BD is very good at manipulating people.

Finally, the game may not have anything that breaks Patreon's rules, but the developer does. Patreon has policies against deceptive use of the platform, especially if a creator is collecting money without fulfilling their promises. In its Trust and Safety section, Patreon mentions that creators must be transparent and deliver the promised rewards or benefits to their backers. This is especially true if the behavior is repeated over time.

That said, I don't think anything will come of it unless it's reported multiple times.

Also, I'm against affecting the income stream of developers and content creators in general. Yes, I think if Patreon cuts off the money... BD will have to work hard to recover its income level on Subscribestar. The thing is: with the way they're acting, it's highly doubtful that will happen. it's safer to say that WVM would be abandoned at that point.
How dare you come here with your facts and logic good sir. I actually have it on good authority that we're all just "insane motherfuckers who participates in a hateful circle jerk and should touch grass."
 

Akabakka

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"barely getting by" the delusion in some of his cultists are insane.

And to compare him with one of the most famous fantasy writer of our time who collabed on the tv series and one of the greatest video games in modern time and probably other stuff I'm not aware of, what has BD accomplished, a couple of hundred renders in 3 years? (Not defending the procrastination of Martin but at least he has something to show for it).

I have no words.
On one hand, someone that just refused to work on his porn game until deadlines were too close for comfort, and obviously missing those ....
On the other hand, someone having a writer's block, caused by both the complex lore of his blockbuster books, and the huge deviations from the also blockbuster TV show adaptation. And yes that still helped during that writer's block spawning one of the best games of the decade.

Yeah it's roughly the same situation and level of quality.
 
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Badjourasmix

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While I generally support this girl, Katie, I'm not going to hide the truth. She's clearly not in the best mental state, and she even mentioned getting therapy for some trauma from her youth, but to say she deserves to be put in a mental institution is a bit of a stretch.

BD's behavior over the years is indefensible. Well, there are always those who will jump into the fire for him. Katie's hatred for BD isn't unjustified, especially not her.

You probably don't remember or conveniently forgot, it doesn't matter, but BD literally manipulated her. The girl was here for a few days defending him after she'd already had a problem with him. The girl claimed BD had changed and that everything would get better.

Many of us here told her that she was being used to defend him on the forum, but she didn't see it or didn't want to see it, something that often happens when someone is manipulated who doesn't want to see it. The thing is, sooner rather than later, she realized that BD is very good at manipulating people.

Finally, the game may not have anything that breaks Patreon's rules, but the developer does. Patreon has policies against deceptive use of the platform, especially if a creator is collecting money without fulfilling their promises. In its Trust and Safety section, Patreon mentions that creators must be transparent and deliver the promised rewards or benefits to their backers. This is especially true if the behavior is repeated over time.

That said, I don't think anything will come of it unless it's reported multiple times.

Also, I'm against affecting the income stream of developers and content creators in general. Yes, I think if Patreon cuts off the money... BD will have to work hard to recover its income level on Subscribestar. The thing is: with the way they're acting, it's highly doubtful that will happen. it's safer to say that WVM would be abandoned at that point.
Has he not delivered on what is actually promised on each tier? What most people here seem to be upset about, is the constant update delays and excuses. If he had something like "you get a new game update every x number of months", then yea he would breaking their rules because he is not delivering on what he promised, but that is not the case. So unless you can 100% prove to patreon that he is lying about the reasons why the delays are happening, they will do nothing about it.

And to be clear the criticism for the delays is 100% valid. After a while with so many excuses, even if you try to be super charitable it's still very hard to believe him.

I only became aware of Katie after she was banned and her husband was here defending her. So I can't really say anything about her being manipulated. But even assuming that is true, I still think some of the stuff she said she wanted to do like dox BD, is super unhinged and is something that should not be supported or cheered on.
 
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jamdan

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BD doesn't technically break any of his tier promises, most of which are basically "You'll get the update X days after it's released."

He also posts progress reports and *technically* pauses payments and *technically* releases updates every so often.

So nothing will come from reporting him. Patreon aren't going to launch some deep investigation to figure out how much BD is being dishonest and manipulative. It's not like people didn't mass report ICSTOR and some other devs before either.
 
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Niuul

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Only way things will change with BD is if people unsub entirely until he can prove he has gotten his shit in order and I don't mean instantly resubbing after putting out a 255 render update that should have been out 4 months ago.

It would take an act of god for that to happen though as his cultists are so indoctrinated they'll keep giving him money every month regardless of how many delays and excuses happen that causes "it'll be uploaded tonight" to turn in to a 3 month delay...again...
 
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