RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.1] [Chyos]

[Erectosaurus]

Damn, when you put it like that. I think Patreon members want more NTR. It's sad that he's only focusing on this niche fetish. I'm early in the game (22 hours in) and I'm enjoying it, but it's a little sad to realise that after a while the content will run out and nothing new will be coming except bonus NTR scenes.

Majority of his patrons don’t, it’s a small minority that spam the suggestions channel with their NTR ideas.

And to be honest I don’t really have a strong opinion on all the bonus NTR scenes as I usually ignore them , but it’s not even implemented well. Like who wants to see Rick or Dave fuck bitches?

 

[Evangelion-01]

Damn, when you put it like that. I think Patreon members want more NTR. It's sad that he's only focusing on this niche fetish. I'm early in the game (22 hours in) and I'm enjoying it, but it's a little sad to realise that after a while the content will run out and nothing new will be coming except bonus NTR scenes.

It's not them wanting more NTR but that Chyos attempts to provide 1 Bonus scene per month while main story Updates take 2-3 month... sometimes more duo to bonus scenes

 

[DamirTheGreat]

It's not them wanting more NTR but that Chyos attempts to provide 1 Bonus scene per month while main story Updates take 2-3 month... sometimes more duo to bonus scenes

I hope the story starts to expand soon because the game is really good. By the way side note: I discovered this game thanks to the link in your signature. I wanted to thank you haha

 

[Lamoucheronn]

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Final Steps

Good afternoon,

I would have liked to wait with this report until after the release of update 0.5.9.0, but due to problems that occurred during the tests yesterday I have decided to write it now to then have my head free to focus on working for the rest of the day.

In short, during the first test runs that I started yesterday, I realized that the great movement routes I had planned for the guards and the farmers were sometimes going badly wrong. This lead to positions flickering back and forth or figures standing still in places where they shouldn't actually be... you also sometimes got caught even though there is no guard present. So yesterday I spent almost the whole day fixing these errors and have not yet been able to test the other events.

Other things I've been working on this week: Mercenaries can now die while working near the mill (depending on the number of guards and their training, the chance is lower). At the same time, loot is collected with every attack, which the MC can then collect from guards around the mill. Dead tier 3 mercs can be found in the area to regain their armor.Fixed the fields near the cows (they were supposed to grow every few days so that the farmer there actually is farming something)Finished the work on Elisabeth's scenesContinued Penny's quest for 2 more steps to bring it to an endpointMore interaction around the Coldstone estate to make it possible to break in and use the good old bandit disguiseWork on more transition images for Lilly (liks the one in the title) & Elisabeth
My original plan was to complete the update by tonight, so I wanted to wait until then to write this report. But that was before the problems yesterday. Because now I don't think I'll be able to finish all the dialog I wanted to add for Lilly today. I also have to proofread (playtest) afterwards, which usually leads to me rewriting some sections that seem inappropriate.
I'm also thinking about adding the step with the renovated barn. I had intended to add this a lot earlier already and have now made some more preparations for it (worked on updated images for the inside of the barn). However, I'm not sure if I should actually add this in now as it would again be more work (In case you remember, I wanted this as an alternative trigger for the renovations at the MC's house, which would also lead to some adjustments on Emily's quest). So I'm not sure whether I should put it in now or wait with the half ready materials until a later time.

I know that I've already put a lot of strain on your patience, and I feel the same way, I really want this update to be finished. A little longer and it will finally be ready. I'm just afraid that I won't be able to do it today and will need at least Monday to finish it.

For now I'll continue and wish you all a nice weekend.

Am I dreaming or are the updates drastically declining lately?
Thought an additional dev would make the updates bigger or faster, not slower and smaller.

 

[Ottoeight]

It's not them wanting more NTR but that Chyos attempts to provide 1 Bonus scene per month while main story Updates take 2-3 month... sometimes more duo to bonus scenes

Do you remember when we were writing here on this thread that he needed to drop bonus scenes and focus on the main quests only? that was when he started completing main quests every 2 months.

Just an example: in May he wrote on Patreon that he took 3 weeks for the monthly bonus scene and he had started working on Penny's update towards the end of the month. Now it's October 18th and he hasn't completed Penny's quest yet.

In the whole 2024 he ONLY completed 0.5.7.0, an update he started working on in November 2023, and 0.5.8.0.

Enough said.

 

[Kvr64##]

The test version is out on patreon

 

[huangmaideshen]

hi, guys, what do you need to lubricate the door? I tried the lubricant, but hint me it's not this

 

[Sane82]

hi, guys, what do you need to lubricate the door? I tried the lubricant, but hint me it's not this

lubricant? What are you trying to do to that poor door lol

 

[huangmaideshen]

lubricant? What are you trying to do to that poor door lol

lol, MC prompts me to lubricate this poor squeaky door。

 

[dobiedo]

The test version is out on patreon

Got the links?

 

[huangmaideshen]

lol, MC prompts me to lubricate this poor squeaky door。

The answer is animal fat

 

[DawnCry]

Related to the talks that have been happening I kinda agree, the main story should advance already. I enjoy a lot how the game works in general and the main story obviously needs to keep advancing.

And the stuff related to the bonus scene and NTR... it's kinda insane that it's happening actually, be aware that I'm not a NTR hater but I have a clear standing related to:

-Not all characters need to have NTR scenes, characters like Penny, Emily, Lyvia, Ophilia... they just don't need those scenes, it's fine to have just some normal love without risks, also from what I read if I have to do something annoying like give money to Penny all weeks to not have her NTR then damn it.

-On the other hand there are some characters that need to explore more that aspect or need a rework, basically:

*Half-orc village Dasan route needs a complete rework, especially it also needs a way to take him down later on.
*Goblins and dwarves need an expansion.
*There is enough content with the mayor's mansion and their members, we need to be able to take down the mayor and his son.

Overall it's fine that some characters have a certain love interest, such as Kate and Rick, in fact it can be fun to hook up characters without any NTR feeling, but I feel that NTR content is becoming a tiny part of all characters when it shouldn't, or at least it should wait until demon's can invade the village or something, I can understand it happening as a result of losing against a major threat, but that's about it.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Related to the talks that have been happening I kinda agree, the main story should advance already. I enjoy a lot how the game works in general and the main story obviously needs to keep advancing.

And the stuff related to the bonus scene and NTR... it's kinda insane that it's happening actually, be aware that I'm not a NTR hater but I have a clear standing related to:

-Not all characters need to have NTR scenes, characters like Penny, Emily, Lyvia, Ophilia... they just don't need those scenes, it's fine to have just some normal love without risks, also from what I read if I have to do something annoying like give money to Penny all weeks to not have her NTR then damn it.

-On the other hand there are some characters that need to explore more that aspect or need a rework, basically:

*Half-orc village Dasan route needs a complete rework, especially it also needs a way to take him down later on.
*Goblins and dwarves need an expansion.
*There is enough content with the mayor's mansion and their members, we need to be able to take down the mayor and his son.

Overall it's fine that some characters have a certain love interest, such as Kate and Rick, in fact it can be fun to hook up characters without any NTR feeling, but I feel that NTR content is becoming a tiny part of all characters when it shouldn't, or at least it should wait until demon's can invade the village or something, I can understand it happening as a result of losing against a major threat, but that's about it.

Honestly rather than seeing the Main Quest advanceing to open the world and introduce more Characters that will compete with the current cast I just want to see him concentrating on finishing the stories of the already introduced Characters.

 

[DawnCry]

Honestly rather than seeing the Main Quest advanceing to open the world and introduce more Characters that will compete with the current cast I just want to see him concentrating on finishing the stories of the already introduced Characters.

I understand that feeling, but I also feel that you can't finish many stories if you don't advance the main quest, I want to take down the mayor for example and that should be main story related.

Arianna for example needs to keep advancing the cult plotline and many others are more or less related. Of course there are a few characters that could have just a simple storyline, such as Penny that could go from start to finish without advancing the storyline anymore.

 

[huangmaideshen]

I understand that feeling, but I also feel that you can't finish many stories if you don't advance the main quest, I want to take down the mayor for example and that should be main story related.

Arianna for example needs to keep advancing the cult plotline and many others are more or less related. Of course there are a few characters that could have just a simple storyline, such as Penny that could go from start to finish without advancing the storyline anymore.

Obviously, there are three main directions in the town, and the dark elves along Bianca's route may be the key to driving Gwen's plot. I remember Gwen mentioned finding the elves. The plot of the cult will drive Ariana, Thomas, the mayor.which may also be related to Cold Stone Farm. The third direction is Kirik, which involves Melissa, Kate, Leandra, Pia, and Sabrina.
What I mean is that pushing the completion of the character's story will inevitably push forward the main storyline tasks, which seems certain.

 

[Ottoeight]

*There is enough content with the mayor's mansion and their members, we need to be able to take down the mayor and his son.

It has to do with Julia's quest, I guess.

-On the other hand there are some characters that need to explore more that aspect or need a rework, basically:

*Goblins and dwarves need an expansion.

We'll see it with Gavina & Bianca's quest, I guess.

-On the other hand there are some characters that need to explore more that aspect or need a rework, basically:

*Half-orc village Dasan route needs a complete rework, especially it also needs a way to take him down later on.

Sorry, but NO bro. Just NO. Enough with Rumah related stuff. And WE JUST HAVE HAD A REWORK UPDATE with 0.5.7.0

And this is not how the game works. Dasan dead = love routes, Dasan alive = MC is a cuck routes: that's how this game works.

Honestly rather than seeing the Main Quest advanceing to open the world and introduce more Characters that will compete with the current cast I just want to see him concentrating on finishing the stories of the already introduced Characters.

And that's my whole damn point: it's NOT happening. As I said, we are waiting for MC to tell Roderic about Marcus' robe since september 2022, dammnit.

Obviously, there are three main directions in the town, and the dark elves along Bianca's route may be the key to driving Gwen's plot. I remember Gwen mentioned finding the elves. The plot of the cult will drive Ariana, Thomas, the market, etc., which may also be related to Cold Stone Farm. The third direction is Kirik, which involves Melissa, Kate, Leandra, Pia, and Sabrina.
What I mean is that pushing the completion of the character's story will inevitably push forward the main storyline tasks, which seems to be impossible.

See above.

 

[harem.king]

*Half-orc village Dasan route needs a complete rework, especially it also needs a way to take him down later on.

That does not make any sense. You know damn well that Dasan murdered his own father so that he could sell his own people into sex slavery.
And then despite knowing that, you decided to make him Chief anyways specifically because you wanted him to cuck you.
That route is finished. There is no going back from that, and it makes no bloody sense to even try to switch that.
There are so many actually sensible routes to make instead.

 

[Neo001]

-Not all characters need to have NTR scenes, characters like Penny, Emily, Lyvia, Ophilia... they just don't need those scenes, it's fine to have just some normal love without risks, also from what I read if I have to do something annoying like give money to Penny all weeks to not have her NTR then damn it.

i agree with everything you said except this, ntr is a punishment system in game and i personally love how it goes around, its not too hardcore that mc becomes a wimp, but its more like in netorase nature. Every girl has her own set of ntr scenario, if a girl has vanilla scenes she also haves the ntr/sharing one and this is the game major plus point for me, but dev should really continue the main story.

The games feels stuck and more characters are introduced instead of continuing already well established plot ,there is one building in village that is empty. I feel like one more character will be introduced unless i m wrong in that.

 

[Neo001]

also,what it needed here is around graphics and details. Why not to have an option to change back Arianna's mother dress - the newer one is bullshit from red lights districs whilst the old one was both cute and sexy. How to feed Natasha from the church less so she could obtain normal tits back before she breaks her back wearing those 50 tons of meat? Or to send the poor futa girl to the surgeon to fix this ill japanese-fantasy shit once and forever? Or not to make Ophelia start her serving game in another parallel current from a different time and space? Or fix dead enemy moves and fake shots during battle scenes instead of another cucking of a third line character? For me, a user friendly appearance and game mechanics do mean a lot and it lacks here.

i think u can choose "not to"
- let natasha have big breasts
- let sabrina be futa

and battle mechanics are rpgm things..

 

[Evangelion-01]

I understand that feeling, but I also feel that you can't finish many stories if you don't advance the main quest, I want to take down the mayor for example and that should be main story related.

Arianna for example needs to keep advancing the cult plotline and many others are more or less related. Of course there are a few characters that could have just a simple storyline, such as Penny that could go from start to finish without advancing the storyline anymore.

There are some storylines which require MC to travel out, but still far to many that can be resolved in the hometown and surrounding.
Helena+Sophia, Penny, the guards Captain and mercaneries... even Rumah as much as I hate to say it... let's finally deal the death thrusts to the Orcs and return peace and quiet to the dark woods.
The mine and Dwarfs (apparently also a Goblin girl... or two?).
Frisha also can be dealt with at home and I am uncertain how Mira could even advance after you sealed Syfa and that male demon for good.
Gwen/Isha and Athia are Enigmas themselfes... Isha seeks elfes not dark elfes so she is likely aiming for an abode deeper in the forests... or some sealed forest area... I gues Imawyn would know for sure as that's her birrth place most likely?
...Oh yeah there is still the prison break for Anyas mom and unless Chyos wants to make the frontline a revisitable site it would make sense to just make it a single mission map, we after all can choose to ignore those 2 Kings and their war.
The Cult still has a major part playing in Arenfield aswell... and Yeah Giron is definately bound to either Helena (since she can give your take over legitamecy) or Julia... and maybe the Cult will be the last nail in his coffin... still there seem little to no reason to leave Arenfield and it's imminent surroundings for those