VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[nexer]

Again and again, same thing, number of renders.
But, WTF, he has 2 Titan, who knows what more, can render 7/24. Not here is the problem.

About scene creation. Take a look at Ellie/Julia event. 370-380 renders. But, once the scenario is created, lights,..., you do not have much work to do, small differences between the renders, hand up, hand down, ..., a smile, an eyebrow up, ...
IMO, and I will say it again, he doesn't have the script ready. I know, some say/think so, but I doubt it.
He knows what to do, that's for sure, but he doesn't have, doesn't visualize all the details. And in the details is the devil.

 

[SwordKingShadow]

So, does this mean there are alternate realities in this game?

nop, in Dylan route where we as Sophia's life spectators choose to accept the blackmail in that route Dylan is still at fault he still did it, now is that crazy and does not make sense and it portrait Dylan as evil master mind yes that is something that you have already make clear, you dont like it and it is completly reasonable
What i was just trying to share with my post to anyone its that when we play Dylan route we still dont know about that crazy situation and therefore I want to be positive in how is L&P going to play that card, at some point in Dylan route Sophia will get to know the truth and that will allow the story to continue and develop, now im not gonna lie it does not look good at this early point, for example an idea that i can think its on Dylan route he never share the secret and the tasks reach a very strong point then Dylan get Cuckhold :v buuuut maybe just maybe L&P can still pull of something good something that for me have not seen yet on many adult games where son gets mom because "plot"
There is no point in arguing if Dylan being the master mind is realistic, beacause its not, there also no point in telling he had good intentions or anything like hey its not that bad, beacuse yes its really bad
but instead of writing that this was the worst idea ever lets just wait to see what this may lead either something terrible or something good we never know, this is L&P first story for as much as i know, so who knows then, what future awaits for this story, personally i would like to see it finish to then tell then what was good and what was bad.
The only issue is how much time will it take to be done

 

[nexer]

Also, when you cut the number of renders the essence is lost. The player is immersed in the naration and you, booom, throw him out. A minimum of renders is mandatory to create the atmosphere. By cutting you lose what this game has, a film style development.
I like these intermediate steps (at least one), walking from the bedroom to the bathroom, for example.

 

[mirian]

I will beg for the last time, can someone teach me how to extract unren.bat or rpaextractor to the rpa images folder to convert them? I have no skill for these things, if anyone can help I will be grateful.

 

[farrah]

lez update again it make me sad i hope that l&p use less renders as he promise

Looks like Liam lez update too. You took him off the list.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Again and again, same thing, number of renders.
But, WTF, he has 2 Titan, who knows what more, can render 7/24. Not here is the problem.

About scene creation. Take a look at Ellie/Julia event. 370-380 renders. But, once the scenario is created, lights,..., you do not have much work to do, small differences between the renders, hand up, hand down, ..., a smile, an eyebrow up, ...
IMO, and I will say it again, he doesn't have the script ready. I know, some say/think so, but I doubt it.
He knows what to do, that's for sure, but he doesn't have, doesn't visualize all the details. And in the details is the devil.

I believe he does write it before he renders it because I remember them saying that in a Patreon post before starting 0.095 that they had written the script and were now moving on to rendering it.

What seems likely to me is that they probably write it in standard story form, where they write the descriptive narration as paragraphs and then the dialogue in between them. Then, when they get to the rendering part, they separate out the paragraphs into each sentence and decide whether the descriptive sentences needs separate renders with slight alterations or not.

If this is the case, then this is perhaps where they can cut down a bit because we often see several descriptive lines where fewer could do just as well. So perhaps instead of writing 8-9 sentences in a paragraph, they could try to get it to just 4 by saying more with less.

Also, when you cut the number of renders the essence is lost. The player is immersed in the naration and you, booom, throw him out. A minimum of renders is mandatory to create the atmosphere. By cutting you lose what this game has, a film style development.
I like these intermediate steps (at least one), walking from the bedroom to the bathroom, for example.

That's another way that can work; cutting out transitional renders. Unless something being thought or said is vitally important, we don't need to see Sophia walking between rooms or driving somewhere, and things like going to the dentist aren't important if it has no bearing on the story.

nop, in Dylan route where we as Sophia's life spectators choose to accept the blackmail in that route Dylan is still at fault he still did it, now is that crazy and does not make sense and it portrait Dylan as evil master mind yes that is something that you have already make clear, you dont like it and it is completly reasonable
What i was just trying to share with my post to anyone its that when we play Dylan route we still dont know about that crazy situation and therefore I want to be positive in how is L&P going to play that card, at some point in Dylan route Sophia will get to know the truth and that will allow the story to continue and develop, now im not gonna lie it does not look good at this early point, for example an idea that i can think its on Dylan route he never share the secret and the tasks reach a very strong point then Dylan get Cuckhold :v buuuut maybe just maybe L&P can still pull of something good something that for me have not seen yet on many adult games where son gets mom because "plot"
There is no point in arguing if Dylan being the master mind is realistic, beacause its not, there also no point in telling he had good intentions or anything like hey its not that bad, beacuse yes its really bad
but instead of writing that this was the worst idea ever lets just wait to see what this may lead either something terrible or something good we never know, this is L&P first story for as much as i know, so who knows then, what future awaits for this story, personally i would like to see it finish to then tell then what was good and what was bad.
The only issue is how much time will it take to be done

I appreciate what you're saying and very much agree on many of your points as they're precisely what I've been saying these past few days.

The big thing for me though, and it's probably not going to go away, is this feeling that knowing what Dylan has done taints everything else. It now makes those interactions between Sophia and Dylan feel seedy and dishonest because of what he's done whereas before, although his actions were often bordering on inappropriate, it felt like this shy, awkward approach was working for him without the need to use such extreme manipulative tactics. Other external forces, like Ellie and Patricia, were building her Filthy points up and making her more recepetive to Dylan's awkward advances, so the blackmail just feels like an unnecessarily extreme complication.

I suppose it's possible that Sophia might not find out about it on the blackmail path, but I'm not sure if that's better or worse than her finding out since then it becomes this really dark secret of Dylan's and kind of taints his character even more if he gets away with it. For him to get a good outcome from this just feels kind of wrong, especially if she goes through with the blackmail. Him not getting back in Sophia's good books by being found out could lead to a cuck path as he sees others get a shot with her and he blew his which could be a "bad" end for his storyline, but for him to still get somewhere with Sophia whether she knows or not just doesn't sit right with me.

 

[54gcvh454g]

Any Cheat mod for this game

 

[AchedCroissant]

Julia in hours did more than her brother in days

 

[the66]

DL link in OP need this ?

if you want to experience an exception caused by a missing label, then the answer is no.

 

[Hlextor]

I believe he does write it before he renders it because I remember them saying that in a Patreon post before starting 0.095 that they had written the script and were now moving on to rendering it.

What seems likely to me is that they probably write it in standard story form, where they write the descriptive narration as paragraphs and then the dialogue in between them. Then, when they get to the rendering part, they separate out the paragraphs into each sentence and decide whether the descriptive sentences needs separate renders with slight alterations or not.

If this is the case, then this is perhaps where they can cut down a bit because we often see several descriptive lines where fewer could do just as well. So perhaps instead of writing 8-9 sentences in a paragraph, they could try to get it to just 4 by saying more with less.



That's another way that can work; cutting out transitional renders. Unless something being thought or said is vitally important, we don't need to see Sophia walking between rooms or driving somewhere, and things like going to the dentist aren't important if it has no bearing on the story.



I appreciate what you're saying and very much agree on many of your points as they're precisely what I've been saying these past few days.

The big thing for me though, and it's probably not going to go away, is this feeling that knowing what Dylan has done taints everything else. It now makes those interactions between Sophia and Dylan feel seedy and dishonest because of what he's done whereas before, although his actions were often bordering on inappropriate, it felt like this shy, awkward approach was working for him without the need to use such extreme manipulative tactics. Other external forces, like Ellie and Patricia, were building her Filthy points up and making her more recepetive to Dylan's awkward advances, so the blackmail just feels like an unnecessarily extreme complication.

I suppose it's possible that Sophia might not find out about it on the blackmail path, but I'm not sure if that's better or worse than her finding out since then it becomes this really dark secret of Dylan's and kind of taints his character even more if he gets away with it. For him to get a good outcome from this just feels kind of wrong, especially if she goes through with the blackmail. Him not getting back in Sophia's good books by being found out could lead to a cuck path as he sees others get a shot with her and he blew his which could be a "bad" end for his storyline, but for him to still get somewhere with Sophia whether she knows or not just doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know either, maybe the only thing that needs to be fixed and i think that he can is the scene with Dylan, that he is not the one with the plan, that should be easy, everything was going as normal as we expected to go, this twist just happens in this update so if he removes the twist and keeps the blackmail, just that Dylan isn't the mastermind, then it should be fine.

 

[Lederzar]

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After I spent the last days with the annoying move to my new apartment and hardly slept longer than 2-3 hours, I went away over the weekend to clear my mind.

I'll be back on Tuesday and then start with the work on the new update. In the next days you'll get the promised statement about my work, why the updates take the time they take and why it's not so easy to find productive help.

As for the next update (0.115), it will just contain the morning events. That means I will split the next playable day in 3 parts, so that the updates will be released quicker, but on the other hand they will be shorter of course.

Here again the events of the next playable day:

Morning:
1) Ellie
2) Vicky
3) Liam (Good Wife route) OR Don Morello's event
Noon:
1) Nursing home (1st side job) OR home schooling (2nd side job)
2) Aiden's 3rd task
3) Emma/Dylan OR Sophia/Dylan
Afternoon:
1) Nathalie
2) Dylan/Ellie
Evening:
1) Sam

If from now on L&P is going to divide the updates of the playable days into three parts,for that to work each update should only take one month because if it takes two or more we will be stuck again
1 update * 1 month = 3 months per one playable day
1 update * 2 months = 6 months per one playable day
1 update * 3 months = 9 months per one playable day

 

[AliceFsher]

Oh my

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Oh my

The hottest scene by far in the game. Looking forward to more scenes of them together.

 

[Zubaz]

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After I spent the last days with the annoying move to my new apartment and hardly slept longer than 2-3 hours, I went away over the weekend to clear my mind.

I'll be back on Tuesday and then start with the work on the new update. In the next days you'll get the promised statement about my work, why the updates take the time they take and why it's not so easy to find productive help.

As for the next update (0.115), it will just contain the morning events. That means I will split the next playable day in 3 parts, so that the updates will be released quicker, but on the other hand they will be shorter of course.

Here again the events of the next playable day:

Morning:
1) Ellie
2) Vicky
3) Liam (Good Wife route) OR Don Morello's event
Noon:
1) Nursing home (1st side job) OR home schooling (2nd side job)
2) Aiden's 3rd task
3) Emma/Dylan OR Sophia/Dylan
Afternoon:
1) Nathalie
2) Dylan/Ellie
Evening:
1) Sam

This guy is getting on my nerves more and more..

 

[farrah]

The hottest scene by far in the game. Looking forward to more scenes of them together.

The pool event much more hotter

 

[daksmkadfad]

so that the updates will be released quicker

Curious to see what quick means to this dev...

pump out each 1/3 of the day every 2 months

I think one event release per month is more than decent, it comes in my mind games like Midnight Paradise and My pleasure which are released monthly with 200-300 renders per update so i think he could do it too...

 

[Rythan25]

No the player has had the chance to refuse Aiden,players choice,so you do have a choice.
Sophia wore the summer dress that Alyssa bought her on her way back to Alyssa's house and changed into her own dress afterwards which was low cut,lower than her original dress and was also shorter.
The bikini fashion show was more about Sophia feeling good about herself and not just about sex with Dylan,the same with the pictures and the blackmail,Dylan wanted to show his mother how great she looked.Nudging Sophia into dressing more elegant,chic and more confident in herself.
I really would of thought that we would of got past this by now. if you agree or disagree with the twist fine but remember you all had your choices on whether to accept the blackmail or not.

This is kind of a "silly" response... thats basically saying If you dont like the twist, than dont play Dylan's route... I mean WTF ? The whole premise of this slow game at least to me the APPEAL was in the fact that WE can CHOOSE who Sophia fucks, and who she DOESNT.

I dont want stupid roadblocks in the form of "hey you want to see Dylan's route ? well Aiden is part of his route, so deal with it"... that's horsehit !!

Its the same reason I hate that SHALLOW as fuck Ellie has to get with flesh-penis Logan in order for the Shower Make-out session.. Ideally we should only have to use Ellie Points and Lesbian points for that, meaning I can tell Ellie to kiss only Julia, and never glance at fucking Logan with his big flaccid penis that when it gets hard it doesnt even add 2 inches...

Similar to the Lesbian only path I tried I following, I need filthy points for most choices, that means flirting with dirty incompetent movers, black homeless thugs, and a filthy asshole janitor.... When in reality it should only need Lesbian points, flirting with ONLY with Patricia, Ellie, Natalie, Julia, Alyssa, Vicky, Marie, and Claire...

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The pool event much more hotter

The Sophia/Ellie shower is still the hottest scene for me. The Sophia/Julia scene is hot, but it feels rushed and forced whereas the Sophia/Ellie scene just felt more natural.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

The pool event much more hotter

Well that was okaaaay. I think Julia is cute and goes well with Ellie, but just don't see her as being hotter than Alyssa and I can't say I'd want to see more of them together. They don't have much in common and don't really bring anything for each other to build upon. I think when Alyssa finally makes the move on Sophia, or Sophia on Alyssa, that will be a much more meaningful relationship to get behind. Sophia and Alyssa have already built a connection just from the few times they've been together and it continues to grow exponentially.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

The Sophia/Ellie shower is still the hottest scene for me. The Sophia/Julia scene is hot, but it feels rushed and forced whereas the Sophia/Ellie scene just felt more natural.

Yeah, Sophia/Ellie/Julia was forced rushed but hot indeed. I was thinking if L&P should add some more time-lapses as he did at the start of the novel with some narration to help create a greater length in time to help the story evolved and make scenes much more believable that characters had time to develop in certain scenes.