VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Stephanie98]

BlackWebGamer does better than this shit game

yihman1 is better in terms of sexual approach, but he lack on renders i think those 2 must colaborate to make this game fixed from blue ball bugs

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

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Depends on if that was a bottle of Jerimiah Weed. I think Sam could have done more. Just Sayin it seems to be the modis Operendi L&P depends on! Maybe that is his life experience hmmmm.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

She is uptight right from the beginning. It is a conscious decision he made and you as player should have seen as well. The game has 10000 renders and yet if you can't gauge your expectations then it's on you. He is not suddenly changing what he was offering, he has been offering this right from the beginning. You don't like it, there is other stuff to watch.

GW path is not abandoned, it is there for later in the game. At present FW route needs to be built, hence it needs time. GW does not need build up. Plus his many are interested in Liam and Sophia sex scenes, not many here or on patron anyways. So if he spent time there people will start clawing at him for that.

He is not fast. He is average speed. His events are far more elaborate, that's all. They surely work and extremely well created scenes. I get most won't want it. Most want sex. This isn't that. This is a different genre and not for those people. Not liking is a personal choice but it doesn't restrain you to keep play this game, there is other stuff to try in the world.

He is not average speed.
He is slower than the perfectionists who put a super bowl on a saturd- oh wait.
He is very slow.

Look at the last scene. 2 weeks to make. I ask you, how did that take 2 weeks to make or even 10 days?
I've asked it 2 times already, someone else also did the same question. The PR team still has no answer.

As for the "she is uptight right from the beginning".
See, no she's not. If this is a choice game, when you choose her to be not as uptight on every scene for 13 days you expect a bit more than someone who won't take her bra off for a massage after:

• Took her top off in a sauna with unknown people
• Took her top off in the massage parlor
• Let her student put oil on her
• Took her top for unkown kids in the art class
• Made out with her daughter all smushy
• Jacked off 2 people
• Showed her tits to her son
• Modeled in a bikini for her son/sam
• Made out with her daughters friend in front of her daughter, bare breasts.

This does not make any sense. Your perfectionist dev is burying himself in inconsistencies the more updates he launches. Nothing is connected.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Can anyone please suggest a FanArt thread of this game in any other forum?

uhm, the fan art thread over 700 pages just type in A wife and Mother in search and select fan art

 

[Sabertooth__]

I don't think anyone hates the content.
I keep failing to understand how you guys think anyone here hates the content.
We can like the content and at the same time say the content is low for the time spent on it.

There are enough comments here. Heck there are comments like that on this very page we are on. For whom content equals "Sex scenes". It's either that or he is a scamster. Ofcourse they hate the content, I didnt here from anyone that the content was fine, just that it should have been more. I too would wish to see more as long as it makes sense. Here it was just extremely rude comments liek this shit, this fraud etc etc. Absolute disgusting behaviour this is. The sheer hate that you see here in this community towards developers is astounding.

Not just L&P but almost all Devs. It's like people are running only with porn filled in their brain.

I shouldn't say this but damn, just before the update, it felt like a pack of hounds where locked up in a cage and meat was just placed in front them. The absolute behaviour was pathetic. The people never understand the creators plight. I have been part of communities who won't demean the very person creating the stuff they enjoy. And those who don't, they leave these communities and move to others.

I don't know why it's so hard for people here.

 

[Krull]

Depends on if that was a bottle of Jerimiah Weed. I think Sam could ahve done more. Just Sayin it seems to be the modis Operendi!

He's young, still plenty to learn.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

haha you guys, I'm still working my way through the update and this scene with Dylan and Christine is killing me haha.

Edit:

"Christine Shoots...
...Bingo!"

I don't know much about sports, but c'mon L&P, you set yourself up perfectly for "Christine shoots...and scores!" That's the phrase, not "bingo!".


Edit #2: I absolutely hate her top. It's so dumb. Considering how it fits her in the previous images, the shirt would have ridden up too high on her when she celebrated making her shot. Crop tops can be cute, they can be sexy, but this one just feels dumb. I guess that's part of her character though, she's definitely pretty sexual.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

There are enough comments here. Heck there are comments like that on this very page we are on. For whom content equals "Sex scenes". It's either that or he is a scamster. Ofcourse they hate the content, I didnt here from anyone that the content was fine, just that it should have been more. I too would wish to see more as long as it makes sense. Here it was just extremely rude comments liek this shit, this fraud etc etc. Absolute disgusting behaviour this is. The sheer hate that you see here in this community towards developers is astounding.

Not just L&P but almost all Devs. It's like people are running only with porn filled in their brain.

I shouldn't say this but damn, just before the update, it felt like a pack of hounds where locked up in a cage and meat was just placed in front them. The absolute behaviour was pathetic. The people never understand the creators plight. I have been part of communities who won't demean the very person creating the stuff they enjoy. And those who don't they leave these communities and move to others.

I don't know why it's so hard for people here.

Regarding the hate comments, I don't agree.
Apart from people with 5 posts in here with the usual NO SEX THIS IS BULLSHIT, everyone who has been following this has the same opinion: the scenes are good, parts of it dont make sense and some of it is not worth the time it got to develop. It doesn't look like these people, where I include myself, hate the content.

As for the dev "hate", again very strong word to defend a dev that has come here for several times insulting members. You want respect, you give respect, and he was the one, during the beggining of his tenure here, throwing mutual respect out of the window first . He still does everytime he comes here. He ignores every valid question, just as most of the PR team do, and just offends.

As for other general developers hate, I dont see that at all.
This is the thread where I see most people criticizing a dev that is still working on a project, and that is because more and more people, are starting to see what this really is. The Old Guard PR team was the same. Now they agree with us. Some of them post, some stay silent, others don't even post and just put reactions on the post.

Takes some balls to swallow the pride of undoing 2 years of defending a developer and coming out saying " you guys were right " but eventually they all do.

In the end, everyone here likes the content, they just dont like the developer because of his poor output and his antics, which at this point no one can deny, this 0.150 update was the last nail in the coffin.

I shouldn't say this but damn, just before the update, it felt like a pack of hounds where locked up in a cage and meat was just placed in front them.

You should have seen the amount of DMs I got asking for a link.

 

[maybes4]

The update is ok for me. Not so good but not bad. The problem still is it takes too much time. If only LP could make it 6 updates a year at least

 

[paula789]

uhm, the fan art thread over 700 pages just type in A wife and Mother in search and select fan art

Anything in 8muses forum?

 

[Bishop Robert]

do Terminal it was super fast and easy. at least for me. very pleased!

Gave me a download period of a day.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

You must be registered to see the links

ST-9Pol has an ongoing story that actually started in the fan art section. I believe the beginning was written by Bane71.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Gave me a download period of a day.

mine was minutes sorry Brother!

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

haha you guys, I'm still working my way through the update and this scene with Dylan and Christine is killing me haha.

Edit:

"Christine Shoots...
...Bingo!"

I don't know much about sports, but c'mon L&P, you set yourself up perfectly for "Christine shoots...and scores!" That's the phrase, not "bingo!".

Killing you softly? nyuk nyuk nyuk

Goooooaaaaaallllll!

 

[Alley_Cat]

There are enough comments here. Heck there are comments like that on this very page we are on. For whom content equals "Sex scenes". It's either that or he is a scamster. Ofcourse they hate the content, I didnt here from anyone that the content was fine, just that it should have been more. I too would wish to see more as long as it makes sense. Here it was just extremely rude comments liek this shit, this fraud etc etc. Absolute disgusting behaviour this is. The sheer hate that you see here in this community towards developers is astounding.

Not just L&P but almost all Devs. It's like people are running only with porn filled in their brain.

I shouldn't say this but damn, just before the update, it felt like a pack of hounds where locked up in a cage and meat was just placed in front them. The absolute behaviour was pathetic. The people never understand the creators plight. I have been part of communities who won't demean the very person creating the stuff they enjoy. And those who don't they leave these communities and move to others.

I don't know why it's so hard for people here.

I actually quite liked the update. The Nat event has more eroticism than all the events in v.130 combined. Without the use of alcohol. Yes there wasn't nudity, but I got that in the Ellie shower in the morning, so I'm good. Nat advanced in different ways though.

I just wish there was an Ellie shower next update instead of an Aiden event. I'm hoping that since Ellie jilled herself off in the shower in front of Sophia last event, that Ellie can convince Sophia to do the same. So that on Ellie day, she can jill off Sophia.

 

[Jack Adams]

You know, back on Oct 16, 2017, when people were complaining about the lack of sexual content ... well, I was kind of wiling to be forgiving as it was around the 1st release and mostly nothing more than an introduction demo of the game.

But here we are, Nov 20, 2021 a full 4 years later, and the lack of sexual content is no longer something that can be forgiven. Yeah, I know all the responses of being a "slow burn" or "realism", etc.etc.

The simple truth of the matter that nobody can fully respond to is this. You have had a full FOUR WHOLE YEARS and still have a lack of content that justifies either support OR INTEREST? That isn't the consumer's fault, that is YOUR fault as a creator. You've had time, you've had opportunities, you've had customer reaction to MAKE the content and changes needed to INCLUDE that content ... but haven't.

So, I have to ask one simple question. IF after 4 full years, and you haven't gotten the ability to partake of the content that you have been looking forward to .... WHY are you even bothering showing support, let alone interest, in this game at this point?

It's okay. You can admit the truth to yourself and everyone else. This project, even with some of the most amazing quality I've seen in a long time, is still a project not worthy of this amount of attention. I sure as hell know for a fact that if someone offered you a "T-bone steak dinner" and you had to wait 4 years for it and STILL haven't even seen the grill getting heated up, that you would all walk away from it. Why haven't you done the same for this?


(And yeah, I jumped ship FOUR "updates" ago and still see the exact same complains NOW that I saw back then in regard to lack of content or possible outcome of character interaction. Ironically, the complaints about the game have become far more enjoyable and contain more "content" than the game itself does.)

This is my take on your question that I expressed on Sept 13th of this year...
Please, believe me that I am not being glib when I say that patrons of any movement, artist or cause are as varied as their hair folicle count. Like with the Haight-Ashbury phenomenon in the 60's, some people are purists who show up to support a well thought out cause they believe in. Some show up because they receive a monetary or social profit. Some show up for bragging rights that they supported and was in the know of something before it was popular. Some show up because their friends are there. Some show up to ride the high they get from the support they give. Some just show up to be amused when the proverbial feces hits the fan.
For some of these reasons I would say that the patron is getting everything they expected or wanted from the deal. In some cases, the more provocative the scene the better the fulfillment...even if it ends as a colossal failure. However, you make a good point for those who believe holistically in the product or cause and feel cheated if it fails (or performs in a substandard way). It is also harder for the holistic to see the reasons of the esoteric while in the moment.
Thank you, Jack.

 

[Bunny-Hunter]

The update is ok for me. Not so good but not bad. The problem still is it takes too much time. If only LP could make it 6 updates a year at least

6 updates a year would be great

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

The 17 renders, firstly I have not played that scene yet. Secondly there was some major retcon. I even addressed it. The event which was supposed to be around 130 renders suddenly got cut down. Why is that no one knows. But it does put a disruption, we don't know how many renders in he was before retconning his idea. He did include a gallery mod, so maybe that's also where the time went.

Firstly, all of this happens with different people. They all have different standings, hence the different behaviours and extent of content with them. There are limits. Just because she was naked kissing with Ellie, doesn't mean the next time she is with any woman she should go all the way with her. It won't make sense. It would only make sense if she goes further with Ellie. The context and the scenario matter for the actions. That's part of being realistic and not the porn bullshit of. I will fuck anywhere with anyone because I already did this once, no matter the scenario I am in.

There are restraints on the scene. Giving the option is in itself implying that it is possible and writing 100's of route is not. He can't make n number of different scenarios. 1 where you take of her bra 2. Where you don't 3. Where you take of her panties too 4. Where you go further than that. 5. When they have sex. It's not possible. It's his story and he decides how much he wants to show and tell at a particular time.

It just brings to conversation down to the same thing. If the creators vision does not align with yours. Drop the game. He can't show full blown sex scenes because he doesn't think it fits the story now. I agree with this notion, you don't. There is no compulsion to torture yourself with this. You know the kind of content he will make and so should everybody. Then why the rant everytime. He makes the kind of content that is expected of him, it's not uncertain.

When people know they will not get something and yet they come back to rant about it, does it make any sense.

It's impossible to discuss anything with you. You should really stop with the strawman if you don't know how to argue.. No one talked about sex, going all the way, kissing natalie etc. Me and others talked about a very normal and specific thing.
L&P could render a pile of shit on sophia's head and you would try to find a way to defend that.

Any normal woman in the western world has no issue taking her bra for a massage, specially in front of other woman.
Now a woman that has done this:

• Took her top off in a sauna with unknown people
• Took her top off in the massage parlor
• Let her student put oil on her
• Took her top for unkown kids in the art class
• Made out with her daughter all smushy
• Jacked off 2 people
• Showed her tits to her son
• Modeled in a bikini for her son/sam
• Made out with her daughters friend in front of her daughter, bare breasts.

Would have an issue? Seriously? With the same woman that is massaging her tits and pouring water in her bits? A woman who had no issue getting fondled by her daughters friend in front of her daughter would have an issue taking her bra off, in the privacy of her home, for a massage?

You can say it's the creators vision all you want, but for someone who has stated several times that he wants the story to be realistic, well this is as realistic as a superbowl saturday.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Obviously I am doing this in vain, but I will answer.

Speaking of the L&P's success, I did not mean the financial side of the issue, that would be ridiculous. And I find it strange that you understood it that way.
This is probably the key to your behavior. A small, insignificant financial success of L&P is visible to a huge number of people, and your achievements are not known to anyone except you personally and probably some narrow circle of acquaintances and it catches you.

Arguments.
No matter how funny it is, but it is quite obvious that for you arguments are only what you say, while others, in your opinion, do not express arguments, but cross the line and descend to direct insults.
But let me ask you, representatives of which planet do you call the L&P support group or his PR team? Are you saying that you do not understand that for people expressing their opinion, it is offensive? You perfectly understand this and your goal is to scandalize very specific people, but at the same time you are hiding behind general wording.

First of all, in my world developing a porn game is hardly a social success, one that you can share with anyone.
Second of all, if you think L&P has any good feeling towards you or any other patron, oh buddy, you live in dreamland. Furthermore I doubt he can share his success as a porn game developer with anyone that he actually cares about (a gf, family, etc). What do you think he answers when his family asks him "What do you do for a living, son?".

I'm not hiding behind general wording, you're projecting again. I even put stuff in bullet points to help you out understand but you still don't answer anything and the first thing you do is name-calling.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

How about 10. You'll be pleasantly surprised by the "number" of updates next year.

Do not put horse before cart! Just sayin'! Also no chickens before hatched! Balut does not count! We will cross that bridge when we come to it, A bird in hand is worth two in Sophia, I meant bush. Crap! Where is this going? I ...... need chocolate!