VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Hlextor]

Yup at this point we are all just creating our own little fan fictions with our theorys and character interpetions and we are almost all completely wrong about what is gonna happen anyway.

I'm just wondering all the time if from the 2nd task (bend over, cross legs) the 3rd task can already be really really hot like L&P meant it to be. I mean, we basically have 12 Tasks (those are to be excluded though).... and then Sophia has to remove her clothes already for the 3rd task? Masturbate with a vibrator? Or let Aiden grope her? No, I can't imagine it. I don't know. It's really exciting what we're going to end up seeing.

 

[Scarlet56]

I'm just wondering all the time if from the 2nd task (bend over, cross legs) the 3rd task can already be really really hot like L&P meant it to be. I mean, we basically have 12 Tasks (those are to be excluded though).... and then Sophia has to remove her clothes already for the 3rd task? Masturbate with a vibrator? Or let Aiden grope her? No, I can't imagine it. I don't know. It's really exciting what we're going to end up seeing.

For L&P hot = tease so...

 

[Old Dog]

Thinking on a different things.
Liam likes sports,but classes soccer as not a real sport,so does he feel the same way about basket ball/netball?
He dislikes operas so probably also anything to do with classic music is out for him.
Museums are probably out as well for Liam.
Was Liam on the school football team and was that what attracted her to him?
Zac/Dylan both play soccer and Sophia is attracted to them.
Sam plays in a band and Sophia is attracted to him,Sophia likes all type of music.
Liam and Sophia seem to have little in common

 

[Atton563]

Culture is like jam ... The less we have, the more we spread it.

Do you think that's what L&P is doing ? Just for appearances ?
There is certainly an inspiration from certain references.

Not saying that's what L&P exactly, Maybe those references are they just becuse they fit the character of Sophia very well. As a english teacher of course she would recommend her student read classic novels and we are just reading far to much into hidden meanings behind every little interaction when there might not be any at all.

BTW I loved the culture is like jam line

 

[Old Dog]

I'm just wondering all the time if from the 2nd task (bend over, cross legs) the 3rd task can already be really really hot like L&P meant it to be. I mean, we basically have 12 Tasks (those are to be excluded though).... and then Sophia has to remove her clothes already for the 3rd task? Masturbate with a vibrator? Or let Aiden grope her? No, I can't imagine it. I don't know. It's really exciting what we're going to end up seeing.

Some sort of exhibitionism/Voyeurism from Sophia

 

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[Atton563]

Thinking on a different things.
Liam likes sports,but classes soccer as not a real sport,so does he feel the same way about basket ball/netball?
He dislikes operas so probably also anything to do with classic music is out for him.
Museums are probably out as well for Liam.
Was Liam on the school football team and was that what attracted her to him?
Zac/Dylan both play soccer and Sophia is attracted to them.
Sam plays in a band and Sophia is attracted to him,Sophia likes all type of music.
Liam and Sophia seem to have little in common

Honestly thought the same things but they say opposites attract, But it does supprise me she would stay with somebody who is so diffrent from her and kind of inconsiderate. Is she attracted to Dylan thus far? I hope so because I'm a fan of his but at the minute it seems she got the hots for everybody but him.

 

[xxxorro]

Besides, there is no reference to Sophia's (or Liam's) parents.
Even Sophia and Liam they move in. At least there's a quick phone call to find out if everything's okay. Ellie and Dylan never talk about their grandparents.
Either it's a script choice to lighten the story, or it's because there was a problem like Romeo and Juliet.
I am thinking more of the first proposition.

Great, that's what we miss, both pairs of grandparents visiting in different (playable) days!
We will never see the end of it!!!

Btw the only reference to the grandparents I can remember is during the Sophia/Dylan cabin event at the beach, in which she thinks that he inherited the size from his grandpa.

 

[Scarlet56]

Why does L&P not publish more announcements, teasers with the patrons ? (without the incest stuff, rule, etc)

I think L&P thinks highly of his work.
I am not speaking in a negative sense because on many points he has reason to be proud of the result he is giving us.

I just wonder if L&P doesn't keep a lot of things to himself because he knows that what he will share with the patrons as part of AWAM while asking to say nothing, everything will end up on the thread.
Which to him may seem like a lack of respect for his request.

This therefore opens the door to speculation (more serious or more crazy).
Because L&P refuses to respond to certain (legitimate) requests such as the BIG question:

"when is Sophia going to fuck with another man"?
Which is not everyone's question, I know .

 

[Atton563]

Patricia is the youngest
It is often the second child who is more rebellious

I was thinking about this :
At the airport, Patricia insists that it was not for the money that she married Carl. I would like to know the real reason

Concerning the references, I'm not sure, maybe you're right, however I think the opposite, L&P is trying to convey messages.

Speaking as a second child it's not always the case but I've always been shy.

I doubt she would have even considered dating Carl unless he had the money as they say nice guys finish last so a broke nice guy has no shot with a force of nature like Patirca, Maybe she was attracted by the money fell in love with his nice guy personality and found out he is very open in the bedroom like he enjoys watching her with other women or something?

I hope you are right about L&P trying to convey messages but after the coaching side story being brought in then dropped right away it makes me think he isn't thinking everything through enough or maybe he is overthinking everything?

 

[Catherine1972]

Why does L&P not publish more announcements, teasers with the patrons ? (without the incest stuff, rule, etc)

I think L&P thinks highly of his work.
I am not speaking in a negative sense because on many points he has reason to be proud of the result he is giving us.

I just wonder if L&P doesn't keep a lot of things to himself because he knows that what he will share with the patrons as part of AWAM while asking to say nothing, everything will end up on the thread.
Which to him may seem like a lack of respect for his request.

This therefore opens the door to speculation (more serious or more crazy).
Because L&P refuses to respond to certain (legitimate) requests such as the BIG question:

"when is Sophia going to fuck with another man"?
Which is not everyone's question, I know .

Agree for the quality of L & P's work and the high (positive) opinion of AWAM for the vast majority of us.

Maybe if L&P doesn't give more information, it's for a different reason. The slow construction that he favors, the psychological evolution, all of this necessarily postpones Sophia's first time (with a woman or with a man). Answer us to tell us what day (playable) it will be, may be too disappointing for us ... And above all it could trigger an avalanche of protests! Some might even ditch the VN for that.

Others will of course say that knowing everything and when is not essential. It's obvious ! I like surprises too

 

[xxxorro]

Why does L&P not publish more announcements, teasers with the patrons ? (without the incest stuff, rule, etc)

I think L&P thinks highly of his work.
I am not speaking in a negative sense because on many points he has reason to be proud of the result he is giving us.

I just wonder if L&P doesn't keep a lot of things to himself because he knows that what he will share with the patrons as part of AWAM while asking to say nothing, everything will end up on the thread.
Which to him may seem like a lack of respect for his request.

This therefore opens the door to speculation (more serious or more crazy).
Because L&P refuses to respond to certain (legitimate) requests such as the BIG question:

"when is Sophia going to fuck with another man"?
Which is not everyone's question, I know .

I don't know if it is the right or the main answer, but one component of it is for sure "marketing".
For the same reason, you don't get spoilers from Game of Thrones, Star Wars etc directly from the production.
The less you show/talk, the more curious people get, the more curious people get, the more viral the movies/tv-series/books gets (sorry, not the best period to use the word but it's exactly how it works).
Just take this forum as an example, and it is not even generating money, at least directly.
But it is a good ad for becoming a patron.

Of course you can share more spoilers, even the assets, if the story and the art are good as it is the case here, people will still follow. But in the end, it is a choice, I guess.
And/or simply he doesn't want to because he doesn't care, he is protective of his "baby", or he is just too busy fixing the lightings to think about that

 

[Catherine1972]

It seems to me that I read a long time ago that Sophia's first time with a woman would be on day 16 and with a man on day 19.
Can someone confirm this for me? It was serious info.
For me it doesn't matter the day, but I think I read something that referred to it.
Thanks to those who have more memory than me

 

[Old Dog]

It seems to me that I read a long time ago that Sophia's first time with a woman would be on day 16 and with a man on day 19.
Can someone confirm this for me? It was serious info.
For me it doesn't matter the day, but I think I read something that referred to it.
Thanks to those who have more memory than me

Sophia with a man(other than her husband) will happen on Playable day 16 and is described as "A very hot and big hetero scene",nothing else is known.
Sophia with a female could be Alyssa as they are due to meet on Playable day 18 .
There last meeting was the "ignition point"in there relationship, as for Ellie/Vicky/Nat I don't think we know.

 

[Catherine1972]

Sophia with a man(other than her husband) will happen on Playable day 16 and is described as "A very hot and big hetero scene",nothing else is known.
Sophia with a female I would need to check

Thanks (again)

 

[xxxorro]

Agree for the quality of L & P's work and the high (positive) opinion of AWAM for the vast majority of us.

Maybe if L&P doesn't give more information, it's for a different reason. The slow construction that he favors, the psychological evolution, all of this necessarily postpones Sophia's first time (with a woman or with a man). Answer us to tell us what day (playable) it will be, may be too disappointing for us ... And above all it could trigger an avalanche of protests! Some might even ditch the VN for that.

Others will of course say that knowing everything and when is not essential. It's obvious ! I like surprises too

Yes!
And, very personal opinion and taste, I like the slow pace, both of the story and the releases (well, ok, a little bit more frequent wouldn't hurt... ).
This might easily turn into a old man rant, but I find that today we are so used to "consume" everything so fast and quickly that we are missing "savouring" what we are watching/reading. Sometime we are already thinking what's next even before the end. Like in that final scene of the Truman Show.

Back in the days without internet, you didn't even know if the next episode will have ever aired, you spent a lot of time with friends and school mate speculating on the story, exactly how it happens here. And yes, there was always that guy that, in the middle of a discussion, kept asking "Do you guys know when the next episode is?"

So it's nice and fun for once not to know everything and spend time speculating, second guessing, finding hidden (?) references and stuff like that.

Now let the "ok boomer" rain over me

 

[Catherine1972]

Yes!
And, very personal opinion and taste, I like the slow pace, both of the story and the releases (well, ok, a little bit more frequent wouldn't hurt... ).
This might easily turn into a old man rant, but I find that today we are so used to "consume" everything so fast and quickly that we are missing "savouring" what we are watching/reading. Sometime we are already thinking what's next even before the end. Like in that final scene of the Truman Show.

Back in the days without internet, you didn't even know if the next episode will ever air, you spend a lot of time with friends and school mate speculating on the story, exactly how it happens here. And yes, there was always that guy that kept asking "Do you know when is the next episode?"

So it's nice and fun for once not to know everything and spend time speculating, second guessing, finding hidden (?) references and stuff like that.

Now let the "ok boomer" rain over me

Sorry, i like your post

 

[dr.akhibadge]

Apna desi londa mil gaya mere traf se
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[hzjujk]

Soccer Coach event:

As mentioned here, writing a story is not a linear process. You have an idea and start developing different paths
and events around the idea. At some point the more or less complete framework of the entire plot is in place.
There are paths / events with a note "definitely", some with "no" and some with "maybe". We have the privilege or
the bad luck to watch a story develop. Anyone expecting a monolithic block has to come back in 10 years.

Then there are the editors who accompany the writing process. That is essentially his fanbase. The payer and the
non-payer. No matter what we believe, L&P feels the pressure that is being built up. So if we say he's getting
bogged down and moving too slowly, sooner or later it will have an impact. And, at least for me, does not lead to
the statement that he does not work in an organized manner.

And as a last point: What would we have to expect from a side path / event at this point in time with the current
level of corruption? L&P cannot take giant strides because the event has to fit into the main story. So at best we
can expect a naked Sophia in the shower cubicle (we already had in the gym) and then a Sophia in the shower cubicle
behind a curtain while the footballer boys fantasize about their bodies. And a pissed off Dylan who wants / has to
defend his mother against verbal attacks from the others.
This is nothing that cannot be told with the person and locations already introduced on the main strand.
You don't need the side event for this. Wasted development time. You see the irony in this arguments !!!

If, on the other hand, the Soccer Coach event is told at a later point in the story, it can become a real sporting
challenge for Sophia.

 

[hzjujk]

I will try to make a concentrate of the possible state of Sophia:

She got pregnant at a very young age and also got married at a very young age.

She sort of lost or killed the opportunity to have fun alone with Liam without the burden of a child.
And so she killed all sexual experience (Role playing, etc ...).
In short, enjoy the life of a young couple.

Therefore, today she feels an increasingly uncontrollable need to "catch up" the lost time.
Liam's weaknesses fail to satisfy her properly. Which increases the lack of Sophia.

I agree with Apollodore on this subject. Well I think.

It is pointed out several times that Sophia was very sexually active in her youth. Patricia caught her having sex when she was very young. She also has experience with anal intercourse, as we only recently learned. And there was even the suggestion that she had already seen her father's stiff cock. Sophia has nothing to catch up on, no wasted time! Because that would also call a long period of their marriage into question.