Talcum Powder

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Ellie is superior to her brother. More athletic, more popular, more academic, better boobs, etc, etc.
She's also way better fap material than Dylan.
I Vote For Option 3 , 2
Yes, down with Logan!! Cradle-robbing jail-bait chasing son of a bitch! Guys his age and older shouldn't be lusting after girl's Ellie's age no matter how hot they are or how tight and firm and round their boobs and ass are. That's just creepy.
 

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I never said Ellie wasn't a goddess, but a little more humility wouldn't hurt. As the great philosopher Tyson so aptly put it:
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I think Dylan is the one to bring her down to earth, is best suited to administer that figurative "punch in the mouth" :ROFLMAO:
Hmm, I'm not seeing that at all. Maybe this is going back several years so forgive me and my fading memory, but does Dylan seem like he thinks his sister needs to be "punched in the mouth", as you say? Pissed about the blue pill prank, yes, maybe jealous of her achievements, annoyed by her teasing, but doing something substantial enough/mean enough to cut her down?

How do you envision Dylan bringing Ellie down to earth? We expect there's no more blackmail being introduced so it's most likely not to do with any sort of threat of exposing her (whether her activities with Julia, Logan or even Sophia). Doing something as outrageous as she did to him with the blue pill prank or somehow sabotaging her school, dance, cheerleading, or her pursuit of either Julia or Logan (or even Sophia)? Any of those would just make Dylan an even less likable character, right?
 
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Progress Report Ver. 0.150 :cool:(y)

30% - 20%
5% - 0%


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is moving again:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
But, maybe slowing down as well? The latest estimates show the timeline has increased by nearly ten days already...
Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes30%55%16.50%
Rendered Scenes20%30%6.00%
Art edited with PS5%6%0.30%
Programming & Translation0%9%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed22.80%
Start Date7/5/2021
Current # Days of Production25
Delay (in days) cuz Bullshit Excuses30
Estimated Completion Date11/21/2021
 

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But, maybe slowing down as well? The latest estimates show the timeline has increased by nearly ten days already...
Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes30%55%16.50%
Rendered Scenes20%30%6.00%
Art edited with PS5%6%0.30%
Programming & Translation0%9%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed22.80%
Start Date7/5/2021
Current # Days of Production25
Delay (in days) cuz Bullshit Excuses30
Estimated Completion Date11/21/2021
Well it makes sense that he would slow down. As he moves into the Sam event it's going to require entirely new locations and art. The Natalie event had the advantage of using preexisting locations and art, so it could be done "quickly". Nothing else matters in terms of this update's development speed until we know more about the Sam event. That event absolutely has the potential to drag this update out until 2022.
 

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Hmm, I'm not seeing that at all. Maybe this is going back several years so forgive me and my fading memory, but does Dylan seem like he thinks his sister needs to be "punched in the mouth", as you say? Pissed about the blue pill prank, yes, maybe jealous of her achievements, annoyed by her teasing, but doing something substantial enough/mean enough to cut her down?

How do you envision Dylan bringing Ellie down to earth? We expect there's no more blackmail being introduced so it's most likely not to do with any sort of threat of exposing her (whether her activities with Julia, Logan or even Sophia). Doing something as outrageous as she did to him with the blue pill prank or somehow sabotaging her school, dance, cheerleading, or her pursuit of either Julia or Logan (or even Sophia)? Any of those would just make Dylan an even less likable character, right?
Catch Ellie and Christine with some sex toys and that's enough. At least the "perv brother" part goes away.
 

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Catch Ellie and Christine with some sex toys and that's enough. At least the "perv brother" part goes away.
Ok, I get that Dylan COULD do something to knock her down a peg, but if he did do that wouldn't that make him more unlikeable? In other words, in a narrative sense, how does this help the story move along or serve his or Ellie's character development? They are both competitive, engage in fairly typical brother and sister spats and teasing and (surprisingly, almost unbelievably, for such good looking teenagers) sexually inexperienced, but we already know that.

If Dylan takes a swing at her what are we learning besides that Dylan is a spiteful and/or jealous prick? If that punch lands, what does that do to Ellie? break her? push her further into her mother's comforting embrace? or Julia's arms? or cause her to escalate (revenge)? Seems like the middle two are happening already without agitation from Dylan so while it could add another dimension it doesn't change the fact of the matter. The first and fourth, while fun and possibly interesting, are very big distractions from what we really want to see.
 
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One can only hope. The Jogging scene was a nice turnaround from the perversion. Hopefully, It will continue.
Jogging and subsequent massage in the park was a nice turn for Dylan the character and his progression with Sophia, totally agree. I think something spiteful or vengeful towards Ellie pushes him back towards immature and insecure, though.
 

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How do you envision Dylan bringing Ellie down to earth? We expect there's no more blackmail being introduced so it's most likely not to do with any sort of threat of exposing her (whether her activities with Julia, Logan or even Sophia). Doing something as outrageous as she did to him with the blue pill prank or somehow sabotaging her school, dance, cheerleading, or her pursuit of either Julia or Logan (or even Sophia)? Any of those would just make Dylan an even less likable character, right?
No, I don't think so either , that Dylan will blackmail her in any way. Then Dylan would be also for me unsympathetic! ;)
I think it will now in the coming update or at the latest at the next event recognizable, as the two come closer. Here it must be decided whether Dylan's story continues with Ellie or Sophia. There will not be a harem for Dylan.
 

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Ok, I get that Dylan COULD do something to knock her down a peg, but if he did do that wouldn't that make him more unlikeable? In other words, in a narrative sense, how does this help the story move along or serve his or Ellie's character development? They are both competitive, engage in fairly typical brother and sister spats and teasing and (surprisingly, almost unbelievably, for such good looking teenagers) sexually inexperienced, but we already know that.

If Dylan takes a swing at her what are we learning besides that Dylan is a spiteful and/or jealous prick? If that punch lands, what does that do to Ellie? break her? push her further into her mother's comforting embrace? or Julia's arms? or cause her to escalate (revenge)? Seems like the middle two are happening already without agitation from Dylan so while it could add another dimension it doesn't change the fact of the matter. The first and fourth, while fun and possibly interesting, are very big distractions from what we really want to see.
I think the best revenge Dylan could get over Ellie would be to lose his V-card before she does, Seems like the sort of thing that would really piss her off plus it wouldn't be something he's actually doing to her so no chance of being seen as petty. Although i can't see it happening before Logan get's his hooks in or Julia gets her way, It's possible on the bording school route but he wouldn't be able to brag about it without ruining Ambers marriage plus no Ellie/Dylan events on that route.
 

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Well it makes sense that he would slow down. As he moves into the Sam event it's going to require entirely new locations and art. The Natalie event had the advantage of using preexisting locations and art, so it could be done "quickly". Nothing else matters in terms of this update's development speed until we know more about the Sam event. That event absolutely has the potential to drag this update out until 2022.
Yeah, the Sam event does have boondoggle written all over it. We must also consider that my calculator is based on a very crude assumption that the "85% of the update is Scene Creation and Rendering" is accurate - that leaves at most 10 - 11% for P&T. That took about 22 days for v0.150, so at 11% P&T, that's a total of 200 days for development, which didn't happen. So it seems like P&T is pushing more like 15% on its own.

If I had to adjust anything in the calculator I'd push Created Scenes up to 60%, Rendering down to 20%, PS to 5% and P&T to 15%. But I only started paying really close attention with the last update so I don't know if those hold true overall.
 
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