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Just a thought/question....
Does the fact that the poll on Sophia's outfit for Sam's performance will last for another two weeks consequently imply that for two weeks there will be no progress on the development of the next update?
I doubt it as he probably already has the outfits so he can continue the event without any problems
 

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Just a thought/question....
Does the fact that the poll on Sophia's outfit for Sam's performance will last for another two weeks consequently imply that for two weeks there will be no progress on the development of the next update?
He is presently working on the Ellie Dylan event also he has still to complete the rendering of the Nathalie event and then he will start with Sam. It will easily take more than 2 weeks to finish the Dylan Ellie event, so there will be progress
 

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Then L&P should have chosen something suitable. Most of us have been to live rock concerts. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen something like outfit #2. These were worn by wild abandoned 'dancers' intent on being their own centre of attention. Added to which, I noticed that L&P appears to have increased Sophia's breast size for the art class, making her as huge & top-heavy as she has ever been. I wasn't going to say anything but this "playsuit" makes it too bloody obvious to ignore.

It's apparent that today the game is basically for pubescent & pre-pubescent boys, who havn't long since left their mother's breast. Again big disappointment is my reaction & as I've played the Sam route, I was really looking forward to the concert. Now it's probably going to be cursed with a 'grope-me' ensemble, that no going-on-40 woman in her right mind, let alone a wife, mother & teacher would wear to such an event.

That's it from me for now because it's clear that I still have far too much "invested" in this VN. It's time to go back to breaking the addiction.
I agree with you. Personally I see the first one more fit for the event, the second one is something that I can imagine Sophia wearing for the later event with Cathy instead. For me it is a little too "posh" for such event.

I just hope that, like for the other poll for the characters, it won't influence his choices, at least too much.
If we look at the poll about the dress for the 2nd task, in the he chose the 3rd most voted (but he chose the same model as the most voted, just a more appropriate color according to him).
Here he will have a little bit of hard time to justify a different choice than the vote unless it is close to a tie. Otherwise why making such polls?

Finally, if he is letting people choose it means that the dress won't make a significant difference in the event, especially knowing how meticulous he is about such details. To be more clear and concrete, **IF** the event has some Sam-Sophia physical interaction, then, for example, the nipples won't play a big role ("visible" in the second, much less in the first); probably **IF** there is a kiss **AND IF** the interaction goes a bit further it could be a kiss on the neck or some touches over the shirt.
Of course he can adapt the scene according the two dresses, but if he has already written the scene why getting in the trouble of changing and re-writing it?
 

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Thanks KillJoys for sharing. After a few minutes thinking about the outfits, I am still not sure how I feel about them.

The second outfit is hot, but would be a big step for Sophia to wear out in public at this stage, even after today's progress.
It does nt seem to fit going to a rock concert and is more something I would expect to wear if they go again to the nightclub, especially as that would likely be after a further few days of Sophia being corrupted.

As for the first outfit, it seems more suitable for a rock concert. I like the top and the mini leather jacket looks sexy whilst still keeping a modicum of respectability. I know many of you like the ripped jeans but I am not a fan of them for Sophia. I would be happy replacing those with normal jeans, but I realise that I may well be in a minority.

Either way, both outfits suggest that Sam is not going to be able to practice his fingering technique on Sophia's pussy. That means the most he could get out of tonight is a hot kiss and maybe his hand on Sophia's boobs if he is lucky and they have some privacy.

Now that is another plus for first outfit. If Sam's performance (and potential dedications to the woman of his dreams) gets Sophia all hot and flustered and she takes off her mini leather jacket, then her top underneath maybe even more revealing. Can't see if it is strapped or a strapless boob tube top. But Sophia would look stunning in it.

For those with better eye sight than me, what does the slogan say? It looks like Black ….
 

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No... brother..... L&P is a great artist...
I am not comparing L&P with anybody and his art with porn..... Its just a filth imagination that how would the scenes look..as if they happened in real life .. as the characters are animated ... although some of us feel them real..... its just imagination of feeling the scenes in real people images ...I only follow A Wife and Mother game.....bcoz of its good storyline ..good animations. ..Great art..and ..great connect between the characters and our mind... through the character buildup....
OK, I was being a it sarcastic, but there is, obviously, a great deal of similarity in what you posted. Therefore, some of L&Ps ideas may come from things he has seen. Nothing wrong with that source of inspiration. So the sarcasm was that it is getting so slow because he must research ideas from ... . You see the idea now? Just being a devils advocate.
 
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I doubt it as he probably already has the outfits so he can continue the event without any problems
If I have kept up to date with the % split between the 4 events and the overall progress tracker, then it seems that L&P is either near the end of the Nathalie scene or just starting the second scene. From memory Sam's concert is now the third scene now that we have the visit of Liam and Sophia to Andy and Cathy.

If I am right then he won't have started on Sam's scene yet and thus L&P won't be losing time waiting for the end of this vote on Sophia's outfits?
 
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I would prefer that there be less scatter* on details, and that the creator remains focused on what he has to do rather than the tastes/desires of each one.
*not sure of the term: dispersion, fragmentation

If the pace of the updates was good then this is a luxury we could afford !
I know the choice of Sophia's outfits does nt in itself actually affect the storyline, but it would be nice if we had a more focussed L&P with a clear idea of the story he wants to tell, and thus be less influenced by the view of Patreon members which will naturally ebb and flow depending on recent updates, as they stick most in the memories.

For me the choice of Sophia's outfits is less worrying than the vote for favourite potential LI's which would definitely have greater impact on the storyline itself if L&P pays too much attention to it. I can understand L&P feeling that he needed to rebuild bridges with some or many of his Patreons, but I am concerned that this recent trend of polls is indicative of what is to come....
 

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Thanks - I had to follow the link to read up as that is one of their albums that I know least.

From your link it was released in 2008, i.e. 13 years ago. So it would have come out after both Dylan and Ellie were born.
Maybe there is no significance to that date, just that it was a short title that L&P could fit on the top without too small writing.
 
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xxxorro

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Looking for the other dress poll, I just bumped into this old post from Jan 2020:


If Sophia stayed until the end of the dinner then she's got 2 weeks to decide. Even though it's out of the question for her at the moment. The 1st chance to get rid of Bennett she'll presumably get on playable day 18.

Maybe Sophia will be tell everything to the school director and Bennett will finally be fired? :unsure:
Was it before or after he decided to give Bennet's story less space?
Is that PD 18 as 1st chance to get rid of him still valid?
We now know that Morello can (allegedly) have a part on this, I was just wondering if we have fresher intel on this and this PD 18 is still valid.

Because, if so, it also coincides with one of the Aiden's milestones for getting rid of him (see "The Post" by Apollodore ;) https://thef95zone.info/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-130-lust-passion.5944/post-5196619)
 
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I'm sorry, but this outfit is definitely not suitable for school. When I said that the choice of L&P is the best, I meant that the yellow dress from the whole list is the most suitable, in my opinion.

Regarding the new vote:
First of all, thank you KillJoys.

Secondly, as far as I can understand, the majority, here on the forum, speaks in favor of the first outfit. It is claimed that it is more suitable for a rock concert. And I agree with this, if we are talking about a classic rock concert at a stadium or other place where there is a huge mass of people.
But if we are talking about a rock concert of an amateur band in a coastal bar on a warm evening? Then the second option is much more suitable! Since it is at the same time quite democratic and at the same time elegant and also sexy! That emphasizes the beauty and attractiveness of a no longer young woman.
I don't think that Sofia plans to tease someone on purpose at this event, but if it happens that they will remain alone with Sam, then the milestone part of the outfit can easily accidentally reveal to Sam what he has been dreaming of seeing for so long! ;)

Therefore, taking into account all the above, my choice is for this version of the outfit for visiting a bar in which a rock group of young performers will perform.
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I'm sorry, but this outfit is definitely not suitable for school. When I said that the choice of L&P is the best, I meant that the yellow dress from the whole list is the most suitable, in my opinion.

Regarding the new vote:
First of all, thank you KillJoys.

Secondly, as far as I can understand, the majority, here on the forum, speaks in favor of the first outfit. It is claimed that it is more suitable for a rock concert. And I agree with this, if we are talking about a classic rock concert at a stadium or other place where there is a huge mass of people.
But if we are talking about a rock concert of an amateur band in a coastal bar on a warm evening? Then the second option is much more suitable! Since it is at the same time quite democratic and at the same time elegant and also sexy! That emphasizes the beauty and attractiveness of a no longer young woman.
I don't think that Sofia plans to tease someone on purpose at this event, but if it happens that they will remain alone with Sam, then the milestone part of the outfit can easily accidentally reveal to Sam what he has been dreaming of seeing for so long! ;)

Therefore, taking into account all the above, my choice is for this version of the outfit for visiting a bar in which a rock group of young performers will perform.
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And in this regard, I am most concerned about whether Sam will touch and massage Sofia's thighs? This outfit allows him to do it, but will Sofia allow it?
If he allows it, it will turn out that Dylan is lagging behind Sam again!
 

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I'm sorry, but this outfit is definitely not suitable for school. When I said that the choice of L&P is the best, I meant that the yellow dress from the whole list is the most suitable, in my opinion.

Regarding the new vote:
First of all, thank you KillJoys.

Secondly, as far as I can understand, the majority, here on the forum, speaks in favor of the first outfit. It is claimed that it is more suitable for a rock concert. And I agree with this, if we are talking about a classic rock concert at a stadium or other place where there is a huge mass of people.
But if we are talking about a rock concert of an amateur band in a coastal bar on a warm evening? Then the second option is much more suitable! Since it is at the same time quite democratic and at the same time elegant and also sexy! That emphasizes the beauty and attractiveness of a no longer young woman.
I don't think that Sofia plans to tease someone on purpose at this event, but if it happens that they will remain alone with Sam, then the milestone part of the outfit can easily accidentally reveal to Sam what he has been dreaming of seeing for so long! ;)

Therefore, taking into account all the above, my choice is for this version of the outfit for visiting a bar in which a rock group of young performers will perform.
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i want to see..both the outfits... But if i have to select one ..i will select 2nd one....or maybe she leaves the home wearing the first outfit...to the concert...but carries the 2nd outfit in the car...and later on wears the 2nd one on special demand of sam....or maybe... After looking the exposing dress of Patricia or other girls at concert...she changes to 2nd one...and maybe face a wardrobe malfunction....later on when in car with SAM....
 
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