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Why is everything with L&P always a 'maybe','possibly','could','hopefully','probably'? This post again is very confusing to me. It's just very vague and doesn't provide any useful information, really. "It" could work out, but "It" could also fail or get delayed?

"Like I said, you will hopefully already see the result in the next update" - Except that's not what he previously said. He made it pretty clear that he "has to do it now" because it "already concerns this update" and we'd already be seeing results in the upcoming release, kissing his feet for how awesome and special it is. Then again, he said many different things concerning this whole...whatever it is.

That's another thing I don't get. Why make such a big deal out of it, saying that we'll get more information after the update when in reality (or not) we'll be able to see for ourselves what it's gonna be anyway? Why not just say "Hey guys, I'm trying to implement Animations into the game", or "I'm working on something which might cause a slight delay for the next release but hopefully you'll be seeing first results in the next update. More infos soon.". Why all this pointless talk that doesn't tell us a damn thing?

Great, apparently he's found some people to work with, or maybe he didn't, but he's hoping...What? And yet he still needs another one for the "last part", whatever that's supposed to mean. And what if he can't find a guy for this last part? Does that mean it'd get cancelled? And if one of them can somehow help him with scene creation- maybe, possibly, hopefully, in the future (but not in DAZ, lol), does that mean we're going back to 1/3rd of a PD in 6 months instead of what's currently looking like 2, maybe 3/10ths of a PD in 6 months at most?

And, sorry, but asking his supporters for "a little bit of patience" is just a bad joke at this point. That's probably the single biggest thing he shouldn't ask for after all this time. Anyway, this whole post, again, creates more questions than answers. Atleast we're not 5 months away from the next release, so maybe I'm just overreacting and everything becomes crystal clear soon.

Oh my God. maybe you are now at a point where you think too much about something where you shouldn't think too much?
 

palmtrees89

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Oh my God. maybe you are now at a point where you think too much about something where you shouldn't think too much?
Maybe. Or maybe I don't as I'm following this project for long enough to see some of the issues, and coming up with a post like that doesn't require me to study rocket science beforehand. Guess we'll never know.
 
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so let me get this straight. He said that he found people to help him and that thee are changes coming. And people still complain because of what BEcause he did not apologize for kiilling your dog?

I dont get wh people still are in this thread when they clearly only care about being angry at someone they do not even know for something they mostly not even care. Thee are like 10000 oter games on here. Why not try these?

I just tried casual Desire which was pretty cool so far. Its way better than compaining about something you do not even care.

PS: There is a rewason why he does not go in this thread because of he hostility.
Wow! You are able to enter other peoples minds and souls from thousands of miles away. Are you related to Nostradamus?

As far as hostility here that is probably the result of four years of lies previously detailed. The fact that he has this background is why we don't believe him. When he produces then we can believe until then...

As far as why some are still here hoping it is because they like the product just not all the drama he has instilled around it and him.

So if you don't have plans for your next 30 years you may get to the finish here. The rest of us don't want to wait that long
 

darji

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Wow! You are able to enter other peoples minds and souls from thousands of miles away. Are you related to Nostradamus?

As far as hostility here that is probably the result of four years of lies previously detailed. The fact that he has this background is why we don't believe him. When he produces then we can believe until then...

As far as why some are still here hoping it is because they like the product just not all the drama he has instilled around it and him.

So if you don't have plans for your next 30 years you may get to the finish here. The rest of us don't want to wait that long
Quick question. Are you paying for it or not? If not you have no right to be upset about it. Giving the comments on patreon people are happy with how he is dealoing with this. NO ONE CARES if you think he is a scam or whatever since you are not his customer.

people like you are the reason why I do not post teaser when he releases new info because you do not deserve ANY of it with your hostility.
 

lockerxx

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After spending almost a week for searching and writing to people, I think it must be hundreds of them (it was a really stressy week!!!), I finally found some right ones for helping me (at least I hope so)! I also had a live stream with one who's really good, who taught me some stuff, so that I can move on with my usual project again now. It was really, really hard to find the right people, and actually, I'm still looking for someone for the last part. But I think it will work out sooner or later. It must!
Like I said, you will hopefully already see the result in the next update. To realise this it cost me a lot of nerves (and some money). And it's just the beginning.
Like I already said, it will be a huge enrichment of the game! And some of the people I found are also really skilled in art design and could also maybe even help me with the scene creation, to speed this part up as well! But probably not with Daz Studio.
You'll know more about all of this after the next update. Just a little bit of patience please.
animations or L&p is getting a team for faster updates? :unsure:
 

hzjujk

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Wow! You are able to enter other peoples minds and souls from thousands of miles away. Are you related to Nostradamus?

As far as hostility here that is probably the result of four years of lies previously detailed. The fact that he has this background is why we don't believe him. When he produces then we can believe until then...

As far as why some are still here hoping it is because they like the product just not all the drama he has instilled around it and him.

So if you don't have plans for your next 30 years you may get to the finish here. The rest of us don't want to wait that long
They mouth harsh words to expose L&P. Don't get me wrong, I can understand some of your arguments, but I see them in a different context. Where you see lies I am more inclined to see unprofessionalism, a lack of organization and insecurity in dealing with customers. When you talk about fraud I see a developer who has been delivering results for 4 years, not as fast as I would like, but he delivers. You accuse L&P of being a fraud and forget that most of the people here in this forum are liars themselves because they get the work from L&P for free. That doesn't mean you can't criticize, but the language you use should be a little more restrained. And in this sense I can understand the anger of darji.
 

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They mouth harsh words to expose L&P. Don't get me wrong, I can understand some of your arguments, but I see them in a different context. Where you see lies I am more inclined to see unprofessionalism, a lack of organization and insecurity in dealing with customers. When you talk about fraud I see a developer who has been delivering results for 4 years, not as fast as I would like, but he delivers. You accuse L&P of being a fraud and forget that most of the people here in this forum are liars themselves because they get the work from L&P for free. That doesn't mean you can't criticize, but the language you use should be a little more restrained. And in this sense I can understand the anger of darji.
t3alqdansam said:
Wow! You are able to enter other peoples minds and souls from thousands of miles away. Are you related to Nostradamus?

As far as hostility here that is probably the result of four years of lies previously detailed. The fact that he has this background is why we don't believe him. When he produces then we can believe until then...

As far as why some are still here hoping it is because they like the product just not all the drama he has instilled around it and him.

So if you don't have plans for your next 30 years you may get to the finish here. The rest of us don't want to wait that long



At no point did I call him a fraud! This is actually a criminal term here in the US. Get your terms correct. I called him a liar. He promised 4, Four years ago to get assistants. So for 4, Four years he did nothing. Now that he is probably sensing his own burnout he starts reaching out for what he PROMISED 4, Four years ago. If you are happy with that as unprofessionalism that is on you. Do not try to falsify what I clearly wrote.

I also clearly posted that I am awaiting the proof is in the pudding. Translation is I will wait to see if he actually makes good on his promises, AGAIN. If he fails then this is a done deal. You do realize the chance at completion decreases each day. This VN is almost the definition of the law of diminishing returns.

I have many times clearly stated that those who want to follow him with their own cash that is their choice. I think it is a waste but, I support their right to make that choice. I do not condemn them or deride them it is their right to do what they want with their cash. Just like, as all pirates here, it is our right to hold our various opinions. However, you start saying I said something I did not that is a different matter.
 

akiostein

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what happens if the mother is pregnant by her own child later. or pregnant by neighbors. and then her husband found out. could happen, as long as there is a corruption tag & blackmail. wow dark. in the future..
 
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But Aiden is Larry Morello's lost son, like tele novelas hahaha, when larry gets out of prison he'll be screwing sophia and sophia cant do anything to aiden, because he's the nephew of don morello. so its like a wife and a mother on the bad side
 

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t3alqdansam said:
Wow! You are able to enter other peoples minds and souls from thousands of miles away. Are you related to Nostradamus?

As far as hostility here that is probably the result of four years of lies previously detailed. The fact that he has this background is why we don't believe him. When he produces then we can believe until then...

As far as why some are still here hoping it is because they like the product just not all the drama he has instilled around it and him.

So if you don't have plans for your next 30 years you may get to the finish here. The rest of us don't want to wait that long



At no point did I call him a fraud! This is actually a criminal term here in the US. Get your terms correct. I called him a liar. He promised 4, Four years ago to get assistants. So for 4, Four years he did nothing. Now that he is probably sensing his own burnout he starts reaching out for what he PROMISED 4, Four years ago. If you are happy with that as unprofessionalism that is on you. Do not try to falsify what I clearly wrote.

I also clearly posted that I am awaiting the proof is in the pudding. Translation is I will wait to see if he actually makes good on his promises, AGAIN. If he fails then this is a done deal. You do realize the chance at completion decreases each day. This VN is almost the definition of the law of diminishing returns.

I have many times clearly stated that those who want to follow him with their own cash that is their choice. I think it is a waste but, I support their right to make that choice. I do not condemn them or deride them it is their right to do what they want with their cash. Just like, as all pirates here, it is our right to hold our various opinions. However, you start saying I said something I did not that is a different matter.
I see it this way: no fraud without a lie, no lie without fraud. But I do not want to argue with them about semantic / legal terminology, because the core message of my contribution was another. That should have become clear. But since you think I'm so deluded anyway that I'll still be here in 30 years, while you've long since moved on to new, better porn games, you don't need to take me too seriously.
 

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I am relatively new to this discussion forum and I hope all will welcome my occasional input and be courteous. I'm impressed with many of the intelligent and articulate views put forward, but equally dismayed by the hostility expressed towards others by some which is not necessary.
It is very clear AWAM draws much interest and passion, so there's always going to be strong opinions. But it's also clear most consider it a sublime product in the world of erotic art and fiction, despite the frustrations regards the game's inertia and delayed deadlines. However this forum is an excellent opportunity for submitting ideas and cross referencing during, and between updates so let's avoid the nastiness guys and keep the good comments rolling?
 

Alley_Cat

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what happens if the mother is pregnant by her own child later. or pregnant by neighbors. and then her husband found out. could happen, as long as there is a corruption tag & blackmail. wow dark. in the future..
That's one of the many reasons I prefer the lesbian route - to get pregnant by either Ellie or Patricia would require Sophia to be actively trying via IVF. Highly illegal, but then so is incest anyway.

In order for whichever male to get away with getting Sophia pregnant would require her to be having sex with Liam at roughly the same time. Which I find curious considering how vehemently most are against the GW route
 

palmtrees89

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I would like to ask you a question.

What if he fails this time again ? Or What if he is lying again ?
What are you going to do after that ? I'm curious.

No sarcasm here, no contempt, just a question
I mean, he could ask you the same question, but I feel like the answer is probably going to be more or less the same on both sides. Only difference being that some people are more supportive of what's going on, others not so much. In the end we all are here because we like to play this game, or so I'd think.
 

Sabertooth__

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I mean, he could ask you the same question, but I feel like the answer is probably going to be more or less the same on both sides. Only difference being that some people are more supportive of what's going on, others not so much. In the end we all are here because we like to play this game, or so I'd think.
No i would like to hear the answer.
Many here are so bothered by the development that they have to talk about it each and everyday. Repeatedly saying the same things. Quite frankly I am tired of reading the same things again and again.

So I want to hear the purpose of saying the same thing again and again. What if he is lying. What will you do. I want to know. What if he chooses to only make update once a year with 500 renders, what then. Will you still come here and repeat these lines everyday.

We like the game, but no one talks about the game. It is always development, even though no one can do anything about it.

It just comes down to abusing him throughout the development phase and then when the update is out being the first ones to play, irrespective of the delay in development and then following the same cycle.

Complaining Regularly only makes sense when you can do something about it or if it has some effect. Otherwise it's just nuisance.

I understand expressing a grievance occasionally but when it's done everyday it is irritating.
 
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raavan1

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After spending almost a week for searching and writing to people, I think it must be hundreds of them (it was a really stressy week!!!), I finally found some right ones for helping me (at least I hope so)! I also had a live stream with one who's really good, who taught me some stuff, so that I can move on with my usual project again now. It was really, really hard to find the right people, and actually, I'm still looking for someone for the last part. But I think it will work out sooner or later. It must!
Like I said, you will hopefully already see the result in the next update. To realise this it cost me a lot of nerves (and some money). And it's just the beginning.
Like I already said, it will be a huge enrichment of the game! And some of the people I found are also really skilled in art design and could also maybe even help me with the scene creation, to speed this part up as well! But probably not with Daz Studio.
You'll know more about all of this after the next update. Just a little bit of patience please.
Again and again author/admin lying to us.....and he taking another one month to complete the next update with silly reasons...this is only my opinion friends and im dont blaming anyone except author/admin....
 
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