VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[palmtrees89]

I talked about storytelling in general but you didn't understand. This is a porn game which is still following a story. You have acknowledged in your message that this is a story.

"If their favorite character is lagging behind the other characters in the STORY "

So what I said applies here as well. It applies to any story being told no matter the genre

But For you Ignorance Is Bliss I guess.

And once again I would like to ask you to refrain from talking ill about someone else's favourite character. You like Sam, keep praising him, don't have to mention Dylan.

I have really restrained myself when it comes to talking about Sam. My thoughts here about Sam are pretty well known. Please don't get me to finally start speaking facts about the flaws of Sam's character. It will be really unpleasant.
You see him as a romantic, keep it that way. Don't have to talk about other characters and don't have to care about their progress.

I'm gonna be honest.. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time talking to Crazy Sam. This person is so delusional that nothing you say will possibly ever reach him, let alone make sense in his twisted reality. He's so obsessed with Dylan that sometimes I have to ask myself if he actually knows that we're discussing a game made of pixels.

The first romantic scenes and the first sex of the game should always take place with the man who loves Sophia and cares about her.

Dude talks about how this is a porn game, and then comes up with a line like that. lmao

My friend, virgin boys always lose their virginity with older and attractive women.

This right here is killing it. The fact that a 30 year old man is thinking this way speaks for itself. I was literally facepalming irl after reading this nonsense. Guess I'm a special case having lost my virginity back then at the age of 16 with my, at the time, 15 year old girlfriend, like most teenagers do, give or take a couple years. But I assume in his world, every man loses his virginity to a super hot MILF, because that's apparently the norm.

Crazy Sam. The name says it all. This is a case of "keep walking and don't make eye contact", if you ask me. Good lord..

 

[Old Dog]

I would like to add to my argument about the Morello / Sophia event one more consideration that is new to me. So far I have always argued that Sophia needs something in return to meet Larry again or to work for Morello. Maybe there is some form of quid pro quo from Morello but it will not be the incentive for Sophia.
When Sophia meets Morello again, he doesn't have to offer her anything at all for her to visit Larry in prison again. I think we are confronted here with another sexual fantasy / dream / fetish. Beautiful, socially well-connected and financially secure but bored woman meets the bad guys and she sees adventure, strong men and unbridled sex. I'd almost bet that L&P does the same thing here as they did with Sam. With Sam, it was the dream from the past about life with a rock star. A dream from the past that Sophia now wants to fulfill. With Larry, Sophia will have the opportunity to fulfill another fantasy, and that will be incentive enough to risk her whole life.
When it comes, it will be interesting if the dream with Sam collides with this new dream.
It has been suggested here many times, but the possibility of Morello asking for photos of Sophia for his brother is now again plausible to me.

I really don't think that Sophia will meet Larry again as Moerllo could now take over from Larry

 

[Hlextor]

My friend, It is very interesting and nice to hear all you said and see in some movies but this is a porn game.You seem to have completely forgotten it.

If their favorite character is lagging behind the other characters in the story, then that routes is completely boring for them.Dylan is a very popular character in this story. But If he wasn't a popular character in the story, maybe all you said was true.

lol Do you think Dylan's fans will support L&P until then? And Do you think his fans will still wait 10 or 15 years to see Sophia and Dylan 1st sex scenes?

If there are more hot scenes and breakthroughs in other characters' events than Dylan in 3 to 4 playable days. And After the first sex of the game, his fans get upset and they lose interest in Dylan's path. Then Dylan drops down from the game's ranking list. I am eagerly waiting to see it.

If Ellie is No.1 on the game's ranking list, sam will move to 2nd place. Maybe Aiden could come in 3rd place.


The first romantic scenes and the first sex of the game should always take place with the man who loves Sophia and cares about her. In Dylan's path, it is not possible.

My friend, virgin boys always lose their virginity with older and attractive women. 7 years ago I lost my virginity with the mother of my office colleague friend. I was 23 when I had my first sex and my friend's mom was 39 years old.

As we saw in the story, the people Sophia liked the most were Sam and Dylan. She likes him because Dylan is his son.

Sam is the only person Sophia likes so much and she looks at him sexually. It might be possible on Sam's route.

I am not sure if this Crazy Sam* is a fake account of an already active user who is just spreading nonsense about Dylan here. And writes about Sam as if this character really exists. Completely strange.

Because if you analyze the character of Sam, you just have to look at his father. Which role did he have again when he was invited to a football game at the Parkers' house for TV night? Well, this describes the character of Sam.

And also, when Sam and maybe other characters have gotten a little further with Sophia, Dylan will catch up. L&P has always adjusted the events in time. And there will come PD's where Sam doesn't have an event and we know Dylan will have a lot of events...who do you think will get ahead with Sophia? ... if it is important anyway.

 

[Notretsam]

I am not sure if this Crazy Sam* is a fake account of an already active user who is just spreading nonsense about Dylan here. And writes about Sam as if this character really exists. Completely strange.

Because if you analyze the character of Sam, you just have to look at his father. Which role did he have again when he was invited to a football game at the Parkers' house for TV night? Well, this describes the character of Sam.

And also, when Sam and maybe other characters have gotten a little further with Sophia, Dylan will catch up. L&P has always adjusted the events in time. And there will come PD's where Sam doesn't have an event and we know Dylan will have a lot of events...who do you think will get ahead with Sophia? ... if it is important anyway.

yeah, the sam account is an alt account that is here to just stir up trouble I think.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I am not sure if this Crazy Sam* is a fake account of an already active user who is just spreading nonsense about Dylan here. And writes about Sam as if this character really exists. Completely strange.

Because if you analyze the character of Sam, you just have to look at his father. Which role did he have again when he was invited to a football game at the Parkers' house for TV night? Well, this describes the character of Sam.

And also, when Sam and maybe other characters have gotten a little further with Sophia, Dylan will catch up. L&P has always adjusted the events in time. And there will come PD's where Sam doesn't have an event and we know Dylan will have a lot of events...who do you think will get ahead with Sophia? ... if it is important anyway.

Exactly the last part you mention. For a really long time in the game we were only seeing Dylan progress exponentially until Day 19 when Sam finally has a big event. Before that Dylan had the Beach scene, Changing room at the mall, Bikini show is primarily a Dylan event. All Sam really got in this whole time was a little bit of areola.

Their are times when characters progress and then they are put on hold to bring other characters to around the same level. That way the story feels balanced and is not leaning towards one character entirely.

We are getting another Sam event on Day 20 and that's fine because most likely he is also not having an appearance for 2 days after that. Dylan has a flurry of events on this day and then he will be gone a few days too. In the end it just balances out.

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

The animation is there, the scene is handmade iiiii mmmmm is her fantasy.....

 

[derek1957]

An open question, especially to those of you who follow the game closer than I do: Do you see Sophia playing the aggressor/cougar with Zac more than with the other teens? At least from Zac's viewpoint?

Dylan is an eager/grabby kid. Sam is aggressive, although Sophia flirts with and teases him. The Apostles are the aggressors with their "you show us yours, we'll show you ours" dynamic. Aiden is of course an aggressive bully punk.

I've been wondering what Zac brings to the game that the other teens don't. He's a good looking athlete, but not the typical Alpha Male aggressive jock stereotype. Is/will he be the shy kid who sees Sophia as the cougar who seduces him?

Things basically start when he "rescues" Sophia from the tanning booth. But then Sophia encourages him to stay for a long time and talk to her while she is in her underwear, and asks him to rub lotion on her. Then she drives him home while being the inquisitive one with her conversation.

 

[VanDarkBalls]

An open question, especially to those of you who follow the game closer than I do: Do you see Sophia playing the aggressor/cougar with Zac more than with the other teens? At least from Zac's viewpoint?

Dylan is an eager/grabby kid. Sam is aggressive, although Sophia flirts with and teases him. The Apostles are the aggressors with their "you show us yours, we'll show you ours" dynamic. Aiden is of course an aggressive bully punk.

I've been wondering what Zac brings to the game that the other teens don't. He's a good looking athlete, but not the typical Alpha Male aggressive jock stereotype. Is/will he be the shy kid who sees Sophia as the cougar who seduces him?

Things basically start when he "rescues" Sophia from the tanning booth. But then Sophia encourages him to stay for a long time and talk to her while she is in her underwear, and asks him to rub lotion on her. Then she drives him home while being the inquisitive one with her conversation.

I think we will get a relaxing massage from Zack, who will feel Sofia in many places

 

[Old Dog]

Maybe, this is just my speculation but the wild scene could actually "include" one of the two sex scenes on the hetero route.

Like all the characters are drunk. Ellie has sex with Logan and that becomes the sex scene and at the same time Sophia could also be in a sexual scenario, maybe getting fingered or eaten out ( who knows ). It would fit the definition of wild and will easily incorporate the sex scene.

Maybe but Ellie is not too sure about having sex with Logan and Sophia did give her opinion about Ellie having sex with Logan and Sophia was not too happy about it

 

[Bane71]

Maybe but Ellie is not too sure about having sex with Logan and Sophia did give her opinion about Ellie having sex with Logan and Sophia was not too happy about it

Perhaps this is the meaning of the expression - a wild event?
After all, the presence of a mother in her daughter's first sexual experience is a rather wild event, and even more so her participation!

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Perhaps this is the meaning of the expression - a wild event?
After all, the presence of a mother in her daughter's first sexual experience is a rather wild event, and even more so her participation!

it might be too much for L&P
remember that by hot, he means a kiss

 

[Old Dog]

Well that is true but if Ellie does not have sex on her mother's advice, Sophia does not like Logan then no sexual scenes will happen. Which isn't possible if there has to be a branching with Logan. So I believe Ellie will get consumed in the moment and go along with it.

What would Sophia's part be in this?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

What would Sophia's part be in this?

teacher / guinea pig

 

[Dan5k74]

Because if you analyze the character of Sam, you just have to look at his father. Which role did he have again when he was invited to a football game at the Parkers' house for TV night? Well, this describes the character of Sam.

I don't want to get into this dispute, but to be perfectly honest, even Dylan has shown evidence of inheriting some bad behavior from his father.

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[Atton563]

I don't want to get into this dispute, but to be perfectly honest, even Dylan has shown evidence of inheriting some bad behavior from his father.

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Pretty sure everyone of us guys has a wondering eye.

 

[hzjujk]

yeah, the sam account is an alt account that is here to just stir up trouble I think.

If so, then this person deserves a "thumbs up" emoji for inventing this artificial character. And in this case I hope for many more of his funny and quite strange posts here in the forum. But I will not make the mistake of replying to him.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I don't want to get into this dispute, but to be perfectly honest, even Dylan has shown evidence of inheriting some bad behavior from his father.

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Well Dylan has also inherited a bit from Sophia.





And not to forget how to both mother and son were eyeing Marie during the Yoga event.

 

[Sabertooth__]

What would Sophia's part be in this?

That is what is confusing. Since Sophia does not like Logan, Sophia Logan just does not seem to make any sense.

At most I can see her getting drunk and maybe this time Tyler goes further than last time while Ellie and Logan are going at it. It will be pretty wild, mother daughter but getting in sexual scenarios infront of each other. Especially for Sophia as she is cheating on her husband infront of her daughter. Four of them together could really look wild.

Though at heart I just don't want to see Logan in the game or anywhere near Sophia.

 

[hzjujk]

I really don't think that Sophia will meet Larry again as Moerllo could now take over from Larry

Whenever you post such a statement here then my whole beautiful thought structure collapses. This is really frustrating! You are so mean!!!

If I stick to my imagination, then I thought of a way Morello Sophia could "pay". He could offer Dylan a job. Not a job in Morello's criminal environment, that would lean off Sophia anyway, but a job in his surely existing legal empire. Then it would be a favor for a favor and not a payment that would make Sophia a whore.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

it might be too much for L&P
remember that by hot, he means a kiss

if you think about it Sam is so obsessed with touching the fabric that everything meaningful he did to her he did it through the fabric