botc76

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The approach of some people in this thread to creators is so far out.

"Someone created something. Therefore, nobody has the right to criticize them or say anything negative about story, writing, progression etc. And if you don't like it, create your own something."

Is there even a way to make it clear how absolutely ridiculous and laughable this approach is?
Everybody has every right to criticize everything, it's up to you whether you give that criticism any value or not, but that's all.

I mean, I never made a cake out of shit and ate it, but I can tell it is a bad idea to do so, unless you are a dung beetle. And thus I claim every right to tell a baker that they shouldn't do it.
Same goes for EVERYTHING. You don't need to actually have done something yourself to know whether it is good or bad, you just need to be able to think and form an opinion to have one.
 

colt95

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lmfao this game is a sht show XD ... don't have time to go through whole game again to see few content _I_ unwatched and not gonna download this sht again
 

Sabertooth__

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I finished playing the scenario and My thoughts on the Amber scene are :-

1. It was a good move to make Amber the initiator of sexual acts than Dylan. Since that makes the scene much more logical than having Dylan seduce her and making the moves while Amber just quietly accepts it. That would just look stupid and unacceptable. Though admittedly towards the end L&P really pushed the barriers even with Amber leading. It was a bit too risky and rash in my opinion to be done.

2. The part where Amber mentions that she is happy Dylan is in the kitchen with her and that she is mostly alone, i couldn't help but read it with a sad tone. The line to me felt pretty sad in the way it is written in the game. Neil is no longer as attracted to her and we see how even made a move on Sophia earlier in the game. Julia seemed very distant and in her own world and Sam too is only around to get what Amber needs. With the kids growing up, they will be less reliant on their parents and with your spouse who is supposed to be your ideal companion in this phase of life also not being as intrested, Amber's loneliness is understandable. Sophia atleast has her job to keep her occupied on top of the housework. There is nothing to fill Amber's emptiness. This was nice detail to add to the scene to make Amber's actions even more understandable.

3. As discussed before the interaction with Dylan at the pool was indeed a trigger. The thrill and excitement of doing something forbidden secretly while still infront of others, with a chance of being caught is something that sparked something inside of Amber and she wants to turn her kinda sad and boring life into a more exciting one. Her constant teasing throughout the scene was telling of what she wanted.

4. The renders, at this point it goes without saying they were fantastic. Amber looked Great and she is definitely one of the few characters in L&P's game who can look more beautiful with a smile unlike Sophia and definitely Dylan ( L&P should stop making the guys in the game smile, especially Dylan and Sam, man they look creepy )

5. The scene itself doesn't leave much room for to be unhappy in terms of writing. Amber wants to live out her desires actively instead of repressing them. If Amber makes an active advance, knowing Dylan, there is almost zero chances of him stopping it.
From an outside game perspective too it is a good approach since we are here to see Sophia's corruption not Amber's, so no point in wasting time on that and stretching it. Having Amber take command is much better with the limited number of events this storyline can have.

6. The scene though pretty hot and goes further than i expected, is not as good as my favourites in the game. It lacked the feel and atmosphere surrounding some of my favourite scenes. Far better than the previous Amber scene and the first scene in the game without Sophia that is actually hot and appealing.

So I would score it a 7/10.
 
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Yubu11Me

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guys! the pool chicken fight and yoga class in the same story line, does this mean that if Dylan went to boarding school and gave up his relationship with Sophia, then he would get more mature ladies(like Amber and Claire, even Patricia)
 

Alley_Cat

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guys! the pool chicken fight and yoga class in the same story line, does this mean that if Dylan went to boarding school and gave up his relationship with Sophia, then he would get more mature ladies(like Amber and Claire, even Patricia)
The Yoga event is independant - you can do it whether you send Dylan to boarding school or not. The only thing that changes is why he tags along with Sophia and Patricia. If you don't send him to boarding school, he just tags along after the self-defence class.
 

Mexi

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I still can't get passed the To Be Continued. Then it boots me back to the main page. So far no one has been able to help me.
 

Yubu11Me

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The Yoga event is independant - you can do it whether you send Dylan to boarding school or not. The only thing that changes is why he tags along with Sophia and Patricia. If you don't send him to boarding school, he just tags along after the self-defence class.
You're right, so boarding school route was all about Dylan Amber and Sophia getting away from blackmail
 

Alley_Cat

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I still can't get passed the To Be Continued. Then it boots me back to the main page. So far no one has been able to help me.
No-one can get passed the "to be continued". That's the end of the content for this update. This update was for a branch off the main Dylan route, so if you're playing the Dylan route and are doing Aiden's tasks, you'll get no content. If you're not playing the Dylan route and send him to boarding school, you'll get no content.
 

Sabertooth__

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I still can't get passed the To Be Continued. Then it boots me back to the main page. So far no one has been able to help me.
If you are not on the Amber route, then there is no new renders at all. So you will immediately be shown the "to be continued" screen again. Check which route you are playing. Open the walkthrough, it has been clearly written what the conditions are to get this scene.

Or you can just go to the gallery and unlock this scene and play.
 
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Alley_Cat

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has the teacher route been expanded in this update?
If you're talking about Mr Bennett attempting to blackmail Sophia to not fail Dylan in History, then no. It may not ever get expanded. Sophia already has an out she can pursue before Bennett's deadline on PD24 is up, but considering is already some speculation that it may take around 5 years just to get to PD16 and the game might get abandoned at this point, so we might not ever get to see anything between Sophia and Bennet
 

ancienregimele

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By looking at complaints
It seems L&p made a mistake by going from 1 big update 5-6 months to 1 small update 1-2 month

I am still happy with 1 update per month

But majority are not liking it
That could have something to do with the fact that updates are not being produced at a rate of 1 per month. If they were more fans would be happy, or at least happier. Those with no content to play, (& at some point that's going to be a majority, unless all routes are followed), would at least know that there'd most likely be something for them in the near future, provided the delivery was consistent. Even then, it would only equate to around 1 PD per annum, or "warp speed" as L&P would perhaps consider it. AWAM could be finished by about 2040.
 

Mailman777

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Games like A Wife and A Mother, Happy Summer, & Restore Her Career are all following the business plan created by Icstor. You start with a incest based story line, add in some decent renders with an interesting story line and pump out some steady decent updates and then as the fan base grows you start to slow down the development speed and focus more on spending the money you are making for doing little to no work. You then start to add in Characters that are not needed or even wanted by the players of the game in order to not move the main story forward. As the complaints start to increase you go to the pre-developed list of excuses and select one. Maybe you have Covid XXX, or the hard drive on your computer died. Play the victim card for awhile and every once in awhile drop a silly image and talk about the amazing update you are working on and how incredible it will be. Continue to add additional characters and reduce the rate of content delivered even more. Enjoy spending the money you are now making doing even less work and that's it. This is the business model all of these so called game developers are following. They cloak the whole program behind a veil of so called creative outlet and the suckers continue to pay month after month.
Sad but true
 

hzjujk

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The approach of some people in this thread to creators is so far out.

"Someone created something. Therefore, nobody has the right to criticize them or say anything negative about story, writing, progression etc. And if you don't like it, create your own something."

Is there even a way to make it clear how absolutely ridiculous and laughable this approach is?
Everybody has every right to criticize everything, it's up to you whether you give that criticism any value or not, but that's all.

I mean, I never made a cake out of shit and ate it, but I can tell it is a bad idea to do so, unless you are a dung beetle. And thus I claim every right to tell a baker that they shouldn't do it.
Same goes for EVERYTHING. You don't need to actually have done something yourself to know whether it is good or bad, you just need to be able to think and form an opinion to have one.
The thunder god has spoken!
Criticizing something or having an opinion about something are two different things for me. I admit between the two the transition is fluid. One thing is for sure though, you can make an idiot of yourself on both ends.
If I criticize something I should know at least a little bit about what I'm talking about before I open my mouth, but of course everyone is free to speak his mind and do without any background knowledge.
If I'm venting because I don't like the content of the game update or think I've waited too long for it, then I'm also questioning the motivation. Many people here mock and insult in the name of freedom of speech and call it criticism. There is almost nothing more pathetic a man with a paper handkerchief in front of the computer (I do not exclude myself). I think you should always keep this in mind when you write a post here in righteous or self-righteous anger.
 
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