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Hello, I'm stuck on the evidence part, can anyone help me?

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Easy, just put the word "evidence" that you used on your post in the search box and I'm sure you will find enough posts about it. I did it just for curiosity and saw some relevant posts. Make sure you have on your forum settings for the searched posts appear chronologically.
 

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Man. I tried to do the sharing route, but I could only get to the point where it was like "make her guilty" and my resolve broke. I came here form his new game Inanna Revenge, and...yeah, he's doing it way better there. The MC in this one, for the submissive route, is VILE.
 
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Man. I tried to do the sharing route, but I could only get to the point where it was like "make her guilty" and my resolve broke. I came here form his new game Inanna Revenge, and...yeah, he's doing it way better there. The MC in this one, for the submissive route, is VILE.
Yep I guess so by some comments from some players since I don't do those routes but the Harem Love route is very satisfying imo. This is AtemX first game as they were learning by doing and experimenting, isn't without flaws but enjoyable nonetheless.
I played with URM on because a few choices could be tricky and I wanted to keep on the route I enjoy, Inanna Revenge has a NTS switch on/off and AlwaysFan doesn't.

The game has a lot of content even playing like I did not doing NTR or submissive routes and was made in few more than 2 years. In Inanna Revenge you can see the product result of AtemX learning with AlwaysFan and I hope they keep learning over constructive criticism and feedback.
 
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Man. I tried to do the sharing route, but I could only get to the point where it was like "make her guilty" and my resolve broke. I came here form his new game Inanna Revenge, and...yeah, he's doing it way better there. The MC in this one, for the submissive route, is VILE.
You're absolutely right, one hundred percent, but you just need to get past that just a little bit further, and then you can turn around MC's behaviour completely! At least that's my opinion and what I can say without spoiling anything.

But if not, I'll see you over in the Inanna's Revenge thread where we all will have a good and fun time!
 
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Man. I tried to do the sharing route, but I could only get to the point where it was like "make her guilty" and my resolve broke. I came here form his new game Inanna Revenge, and...yeah, he's doing it way better there. The MC in this one, for the submissive route, is VILE.
I would agree that the start for the Sharing-Route is rough, but later in the story you can make the MC the loving boyfriend while still be able to share Emily.
The rest is in Spoiler, since it covers Endings:
But I have seen in Endings that Emily can also have a very miserable Ending. In my Endings she was really happy and also loving Sex with different men, but there are other Endings where MC treats her like shit.
 

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I would agree that the start for the Sharing-Route is rough, but later in the story you can make the MC the loving boyfriend while still be able to share Emily.
The rest is in Spoiler, since it covers Endings:
But I have seen in Endings that Emily can also have a very miserable Ending. In my Endings she was really happy and also loving Sex with different men, but there are other Endings where MC treats her like shit.
Yeah, I spoiled myself by unlocking the gallery, and Emily seems to be much more willing in those, so I figure you can turn it around... but dammit, why'd the game dev FORCE the NTS to be behind mindless cruelty? ...having played Inanna's Revenge, I can bet he took all our complaints into account, as while you can still be a prick, you can be much more caring and gentle, and the NTS isn't locked behind the "pragmatist" playstyle. I hope he continues in that fashion!
 
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Yeah, I spoiled myself by unlocking the gallery, and Emily seems to be much more willing in those, so I figure you can turn it around... but dammit, why'd the game dev FORCE the NTS to be behind mindless cruelty? ...having played Inanna's Revenge, I can bet he took all our complaints into account, as while you can still be a prick, you can be much more caring and gentle, and the NTS isn't locked behind the "pragmatist" playstyle. I hope he continues in that fashion!
Yeah I guess that if AtemX would re-do this AVN they would change some things from early development but probably (just speculating because I played this first with near 2 years of development) they just wanted to finish this with satisfying endings and move on to the next project where they could apply what they learned. Maybe one day they do a little remake of the first chapters, who knows. It is always a dilemma for a developer to do remakes, takes some time that can be used on the current project, and by me it is skippable since AlwaysFan is already a very good quality game with its flaws, I prefer the new game to develop on the fullest speed they can.
 
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Yeah I guess that if AtemX would re-do this AVN they would change some things from early development but probably (just speculating because I played this first with near 2 years of development) they just wanted to finish this with satisfying endings and move on to the next project where they could apply what they learned. Maybe one day they do a little remake of the first chapters, who knows. It is always a dilemma for a developer to do remakes, takes some time that can be used on the current project, and by me it is skippable since AlwaysFan is already a very good quality game with its flaws, I prefer the new game to develop on the fullest speed they can.
To be honest, yes. If I had the power to go back in time, I’d change and improve quite a few things. But AlwaysFan was always meant to be a "short" project (even though spending all my free time for almost three years on a project is far from short in the end) to learn as much as possible—whether in coding or visuals—and then create a more polished project afterward. In that regard, AF served its purpose well, and I’m happy to have been able to write Emilie’s story and that of the others.

As for a remake, who knows... maybe when I get tired of making Ren'Py games, this idea has already crossed my mind ;). One last dance to end beautifully where it all began. But if that ever happens, it’ll be a very long time from now.
 

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To be honest, yes. If I had the power to go back in time, I’d change and improve quite a few things. But AlwaysFan was always meant to be a "short" project (even though spending all my free time for almost three years on a project is far from short in the end) to learn as much as possible—whether in coding or visuals—and then create a more polished project afterward. In that regard, AF served its purpose well, and I’m happy to have been able to write Emilie’s story and that of the others.

As for a remake, who knows... maybe when I get tired of making Ren'Py games, this idea has already crossed my mind ;). One last dance to end beautifully where it all began. But if that ever happens, it’ll be a very long time from now.
Aside from the complaints about the NTS being locked behind the cruelty, what other things were you thinking on improving with AlwaysFans? I'm curious what you learned from it, that you will be bringing into Inanna's Revenge.
 
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Aside from the complaints about the NTS being locked behind the cruelty, what other things were you thinking on improving with AlwaysFans? I'm curious what you learned from it, that you will be bringing into Inanna's Revenge.
Everything could be improved. The visuals, the music, the sound effects, the UI and the code. But if you're talking more specifically about the scenario, I'd keep the same story, just offer more choices (notably at the beginning by allowing access to the sub route without being so rough with Emilie) or by adding a few extra scenes here and there.
Hence the fact that if I ever do a remake, it will be a complete remake and not just of the beginning of the game.
 

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Everything could be improved. The visuals, the music, the sound effects, the UI and the code. But if you're talking more specifically about the scenario, I'd keep the same story, just offer more choices (notably at the beginning by allowing access to the sub route without being so rough with Emilie) or by adding a few extra scenes here and there.
Hence the fact that if I ever do a remake, it will be a complete remake and not just of the beginning of the game.
Thanks AtemX for making this game. Only played a significant amount of the love route and it's really a story that makes you feel good. But I was told by another player that the sub route can develop into a wholesome relationship on its own, so I want to play both routes and I'm giving it a shot (I know this isn't the community's favourite route). While I agree that it would be nice to have other ways of getting into the sub route (even along with the existing ones, just allowing one the roleplay a different kind of dominant MC) I don't want to make a critique of this aspect, rather ask a few questions regarding the sub route:

1) So far, up to fist Wednesday, I've had at least 3 opportunities to jump out and switch to the love route, in quick succession. Each time I've had to "force myself" to take the opposite choice to what I'd like, because, as far as I know, once you're tagged in the love route, you can't go back and see the content on the other route. Will you constantly be offered chances to opt out, or is there a point at which you can start being nicer to Emily without being taken out of the sub route?

2) it's been a while since I read about it, so I'm no longer sure if you can avoid the darker story (forced prostitution, etc) while remaining on the sub path. My hope is that yes, forced is an optional arc.


Edit: played a bit more and it seems like 1) when you tell Emily that you're only attracted to her sexually, you're locked into the sub route, and 2) you can refuse the escort proposal even on the sub route. But does that also close the door to any other swinging content? I'm unsure if the "sharing" warning that the game issues with the escort choice means that you're making a definitive choice to allow or reject sharing, or if more opportunities will arise in the future.

3) Could it be that the wholesome ending the other player mentioned was actually from having transitioned from the sub to the love route at some point? If that's the only way, then what's the last chance you get to do that, while still exploring as much of the sub route as possible?

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Thanks AtemX for making this game. Only played a significant amount of the love route and it's really a story that makes you feel good. But I was told by another player that the sub route can develop into a wholesome relationship on its own, so I want to play both routes and I'm giving it a shot (I know this isn't the community's favourite route). While I agree that it would be nice to have other ways of getting into the sub route (even along with the existing ones, just allowing one the roleplay a different kind of dominant MC) I don't want to make a critique of this aspect, rather ask a few questions regarding the sub route:

1) So far, up to fist Wednesday, I've had at least 3 opportunities to jump out and switch to the love route, in quick succession. Each time I've had to "force myself" to take the opposite choice to what I'd like, because, as far as I know, once you're tagged in the love route, you can't go back and see the content on the other route. Will you constantly be offered chances to opt out, or is there a point at which you can start being nicer to Emily without being taken out of the sub route?

2) it's been a while since I read about it, so I'm no longer sure if you can avoid the darker story (forced prostitution, etc) while remaining on the sub path. My hope is that yes, forced is an optional arc.


Edit: played a bit more and it seems like 1) when you tell Emily that you're only attracted to her sexually, you're locked into the sub route, and 2) you can refuse the escort proposal even on the sub route. But does that also close the door to any other swinging content? I'm unsure if the "sharing" warning that the game issues with the escort choice means that you're making a definitive choice to allow or reject sharing, or if more opportunities will arise in the future.

3) Could it be that the wholesome ending the other player mentioned was actually from having transitioned from the sub to the love route at some point? If that's the only way, then what's the last chance you get to do that, while still exploring as much of the sub route as possible?

Again, thanks
- Yes the warning is for all NTS content, (prostitution, sharing, swinging, etc...)
- There are several opportunities throughout the game to transition her from a “sexmate” to a “girlfriend” relationship, but she will remain submissive from the moment you drag her into it. Making her your girlfriend will change the way you interact with each other, and obviously what happens at the end of the game.
 
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- Yes the warning is for all NTS content, (prostitution, sharing, swinging, etc...)
- There are several opportunities throughout the game to transition her from a “sexmate” to a “girlfriend” relationship, but she will remain submissive from the moment you drag her into it. Making her your girlfriend will change the way you interact with each other, and obviously what happens at the end of the game.
Oh good, so there is a way to get more loving with her, though she'll remain in the "submissive" path. I just cannot stand playing as a massive, ultra asshole.
 

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Thanks AtemX for making this game. Only played a significant amount of the love route and it's really a story that makes you feel good. But I was told by another player that the sub route can develop into a wholesome relationship on its own, so I want to play both routes and I'm giving it a shot (I know this isn't the community's favourite route). While I agree that it would be nice to have other ways of getting into the sub route (even along with the existing ones, just allowing one the roleplay a different kind of dominant MC) I don't want to make a critique of this aspect, rather ask a few questions regarding the sub route:

1) So far, up to fist Wednesday, I've had at least 3 opportunities to jump out and switch to the love route, in quick succession. Each time I've had to "force myself" to take the opposite choice to what I'd like, because, as far as I know, once you're tagged in the love route, you can't go back and see the content on the other route. Will you constantly be offered chances to opt out, or is there a point at which you can start being nicer to Emily without being taken out of the sub route?

2) it's been a while since I read about it, so I'm no longer sure if you can avoid the darker story (forced prostitution, etc) while remaining on the sub path. My hope is that yes, forced is an optional arc.


Edit: played a bit more and it seems like 1) when you tell Emily that you're only attracted to her sexually, you're locked into the sub route, and 2) you can refuse the escort proposal even on the sub route. But does that also close the door to any other swinging content? I'm unsure if the "sharing" warning that the game issues with the escort choice means that you're making a definitive choice to allow or reject sharing, or if more opportunities will arise in the future.

3) Could it be that the wholesome ending the other player mentioned was actually from having transitioned from the sub to the love route at some point? If that's the only way, then what's the last chance you get to do that, while still exploring as much of the sub route as possible?

Again, thanks
to get a bit more technical here, there are 2 variables in the game.
"emilie_rel_love"
and
"emilie_gf"

the first variable determines if you are on the love path or on the sub path. if it is set to true, which happens early in the game, it will prevent you from ever getting Emilie into the escort job which has the most sharing scenes in the entire game.
the second variable determines if Chris (the MMC of the game) considers himself in a relationship with Emilie. in both love and sub routes this can be set to true, including if Emilie is an escort.

what this means is that while on the sub path you have 3 routes you can take:
Emilie is a sub and exclusive to Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his property

so if you want to avoid any bad endings, the last route should obviously not be taken. the other two are therefore only variations between keeping Emilie for yourself or share her.
in other words, after you made her Chris's girlfriend on the sub path, the choices of whether Emilie should quit or not, refer exclusively to her job as escort and not to your relationship.
 
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- There are several opportunities throughout the game to transition her from a “sexmate” to a “girlfriend” relationship, but she will remain submissive from the moment you drag her into it. Making her your girlfriend will change the way you interact with each other, and obviously what happens at the end of the game.
what this means is that while on the sub path you have 3 routes you can take:
Emilie is a sub and exclusive to Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his property

so if you want to avoid any bad endings, the last route should obviously not be taken. the other two are therefore only variations between keeping Emilie for yourself or share her.
in other words, after you made her Chris's girlfriend on the sub path, the choices of whether Emilie should quit or not, refer exclusively to her job as escort and not to your relationship.
Still haven't finished the game your posts, and URM seem to be all the walkthrough needed for this game, thank you. I dare say you don't even need URM, since Emily gives you multiple opportunities to confess your feelings for her have changed, while on the sub path, that are pretty obvious even if you're not looking at the code behind the scenes. You can even take the first chance to do so, as it doesn't preclude escorting.

Not sure about this, but to avoid any bad endings, don't you also have to avoid the second gangbang scene? That's a tricky one, because you don't know what's coming when you get your third chance to jump out of Robert's jobs. The state you find Emily in the next morning is so shocking I didn't even check if there's yet one more chance to jump out (there seems to, in the code), and rolled back. Given what happened after the first one, I'm thinking this gangbang would break Emily... in some way. Let me know if I'm wrong, and if the gf route and good endings are still open if you let this happen before deciding it's too much.
 
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Still haven't finished the game your posts, and URM seem to be all the walkthrough needed for this game, thank you. I dare say you don't even need URM, since Emily gives you multiple opportunities to confess your feelings for her have changed, while on the sub path, that are pretty obvious even if you're not looking at the code behind the scenes. You can even take the first chance to do so, as it doesn't preclude escorting.

Not sure about this, but to avoid any bad endings, don't you also have to avoid the second gangbang scene? That's a tricky one, because you don't know what's coming when you get your third chance to jump out of Robert's jobs. The state you find Emily in the next morning is so shocking I didn't even check if there's yet one more chance to jump out (there seems to, in the code), and rolled back. Given what happened after the first one, I'm thinking this gangbang would break Emily... in some way. Let me know if I'm wrong, and if the gf route and good endings are still open if you let this happen before deciding it's too much.
well that's really going to be a spoiler by now, but technically you still can withdraw after the 2nd gangbang (or how i would refer to it, the 3rd escort job from robert) and avoid a severe bad end.

however
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you may have refered to the quick guide i made a page back on avoiding NTR elements in the sharing route. they may be NTR elements, but they aren't as bad as the 3rd escort job in reference to the possible endings you can get. so if you are really curious about sharing scenes but want to avoid bad endings, then every escort job is less dangerous than the 3rd escort job by far. besides that the most important part is to treat Emilie with care.
 
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and that can be considered bad for the still possible good endings. but you are really far ahead into a bad ending by now, so i would advice against it
Thanks again, that's definitely not what I'd go for in a first or second playthrough, but if you say there are still redeemable good endings after the 3rd robert job, I'd think the consequence you mentioned is a good life lesson for the MC (and Emily, although she was only guilty of letting others make decisions for her) and serves as a counterbalance for how badly the MC has to treat her in the beginning. Making him face (and accept) the situation seems like a good test of character. As long as they can still end together, and you can avoid bad endings for other characters as well (although I can imagine one or two ways that other characters' arcs would be directly affected), it's a possibility, in the future. My red line with harder fetish routes of any kind is that there needs to be some sort of redemption, a good closure even if the road to get there was difficult and paved with harsh lessons. It's rare to see it in games.
 
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someone knows what to type here ? i have tried with the name of the girls even with serial number of the girls on the hint part but none of these is the correct answer.
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someone knows what to type here ? i have tried with the name of the girls even with serial number of the girls on the hint part but none of these is the correct answer.
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there are quite a lot of words you can type in to get specific emails. you need to find 12 emails if i remember correctly and one email doesn't make a lot of sense if you haven't already seen another email. so try to redo emails if you didn't get all clues.
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