MisterKr

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as someone whos played this game since it came out i will say that a remaster/rework was inevitable . the game was kind of a mess since 2022/3 . even though this took 6 months its not that bad cause iirc the very 1st update of this game took equally as long and all that was added the 1st iris scene . atleast this remaster adds pretty decent scenes for the main girls . as for the AI stuff its defnitly unnecessary. im glad like majority of them were used for minor scenes . as for the future it looks kind of good since now we know what "level 2 scenes" are. level 1 scenes contain quite a bit of sexual content so level 2 probably contains sex . they dev said they want to release monthly updates from now on . if they can do that id say this game is heading in the right direction .
We'll see what happens next, but I don't think the next update will be any better
 

darkdepths

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Do you know the difference between porn and erotica?

Yes and with porn in the previous edition was all right, the scenes were performed on 10 points out of 10), except that fanatically devoted to incest fetish gentlemen could be disappointed. I stated my opinion (a positive one), we all have our own views on the reality around us. I can't understand - you wanted a guy who lost his memory to fuck his whole family in an hour of game time? Definitely not going to happen (and thank God).
Normally I would agree that a build up with teasing is good... but not after all these years. This has nothing to do with erotica or fucking the family in an hour, it is just bad work. I supported the dev in the past when they first released the game, like I do with every game I like. But I stopped years ago because it was obvious they went nowhere with it. Late updates, lacking feedback, lacking content... That is too much giving the time.

The remake has some playing around with animations but did not progress anything beyond the original, the dev wastes time on things that adds nothing and it shows. I bet next update there will be excuses that not everything could be added or it will be delayed again.

In regards to incest, the original gave the option to play it as such. Now the dev goes the extra mile to remove it narratively eventhough they added the new way of changing relationships making it a waste of time again. So of course incest fans like me will be disappointed since they were not honest.
 
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fuck this shit i dont know either why is this game so complicated
It's either the one part where you need to go to the basement at one time of the day or the part where you need to click on the checklist in the basement and "sign" it to trigger a scene with Alexandra. Depends on where exactly you are in her quest.
 

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I could be wrong but it feels like a developer who is long burnt out from game development and is looking to do the minimal effort while maintaining a steady income. They are even sliding into now using AI to do the animations, further cutting down the effort needed.

Normally developers for this niche genre of games have some semblance of passion for the game they are making and I'm just not feeling that passion from what the developer posts. it's all about the numbers and steps and how much work and effort everything is taking, Or long tangents with little baring to the actual game. Even the remaster from what I've read seems to mostly be a make work project since they seem to be avoiding work on the more complex side of continuing the actual game.

Arguably I'm going off the minimal stuff I have read since checking out on the game after they seem to have forgotten the steam side for the most part, and some story elements I didn't care for. I won't be playing to actually check it out myself until whenever they decide to update steam. So everything I can go on currently is from comments.

Hopefully now that this little distraction is done the game progresses and I'm proven wrong.
Yeah, I can't really tell if it's burnout or what. A lot of peeps have thrown out the ole term "milker," but I don't think that is the case here.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's more just from a lack of preparing or outlining the main story. I've worked in editing for years, helping people to develop novels, and when writers don't have a solid outline and decide to make things up as they go, they often end up writing huuuuge swaths of text that end up simply not fitting. Then they have to restart/rewrite. And this causes burnout, just from frustration.

I would imagine it's no less challenging in developing these games. Probably even harder, because not only do devs have to write all the actual dialogue and story text, but they also have to do the coding . . . and then the renders and animations. Developing these games seems like a herculean task, and it seems like sooo much could go astray without a solid gameplan.

But I think devs of adult games often overlook how critical the storytelling aspect is. As I've said elsewhere, the stories don't need to be crazy good, but a general roadmap of the story seems imperative, because at the end up the day, all the sex scenes and coding are downstream of the core story. In other words, the sex scenes can develop/escalate only as far as the stories develop.

I think what happened is that Super Alex, like many devs, sat down to create this expansive, super detailed sandbox game, where the grinds for the girls would be slow and sweet, but didn't bother to outline the story in much detail. And now, yeah, probably suffering from burnout, just from being lost.
 

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Generally the update is good in my opinion putting aside some creepy AI moments which were unnecessary (even there were a lot of very clever and good ones).

the new scenes are very lewd and nice. (i liked the tickling scenes a lot and also elena domination path is quite erotic)

Also the free roam system is quite clear and fun to play, it is similar to 'midnight paradise' if uve played it before u ll see the story is branched through a big schedule for each character aside from the main story and that's one simple way to do it especially when adding hints and making it way easier and more accessible to players when doing tasks..

The scenes are fabulous but idk why there's always this feeling that it's not enough renders especially with this vn lol..

I think the only issue is that there's no real suspense anymore in the main story cuz mc is just mostly wandering around without purpose and only doing some chores which is fine to some extent...

We need to see some progress in terms of Alexandra's workplace or some hints about the major missing memories...
Like why is Alexandra hiding it as a secret and why isn't she showing where she goes at night etc...
But overall 8/10 update
 
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I searched and didnt find links other than mega for the uncompressed game?
Weird thats its not even in the "latest update" too.
Im scared of that ai thing... i really liked the style since lucky mark.. hope it still keep it and doesnt change the facial expression and stuff too much
 

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Did taking Kate to a massage parlor be deleted in the new version?
It either is not included so far or the dev decided to take a different approach. Can't say for sure so far. The scene with the nurse also isn't there so far.

I'd personally prefer if he adds actual new stuff instead of recycling what has been there since the scenes with Rei or Eva didn't get any rework at all.
 
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I don't know how to react to this, how long have I been asleep, since when did a lazy and cheesy reworking of a game, especially renders using AI become called a “remastered version”? The game used to have good renders, nice animations, but no, everything needs to be ruined by using AI. I suspect that Super Alex wants to “screw over” his fans if they stay after this update to make a game with AI and get a lot of money and not do a fucking thing.
What are you talking about? The renders of this game are a work of art and it's better than 99% of the ones here. And ai is used in very small parts of the game.

Funny how confident you get trash-talking the rare few developers who are actually good at their job, all while sitting on that pimpled butt of yours.
 

MisterKr

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What are you talking about? The renders of this game are a work of art and it's better than 99% of the ones here. And ai is used in very small parts of the game.

Funny how confident you get trash-talking the rare few developers who are actually good at their job, all while sitting on that pimpled butt of yours.
your comment would be appropriate if dev had established itself with the best side, not making the game for, what, 6 years? and not releasing updates every half a year with bits of conten
 
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your comment would be appropriate if dev had established itself with the best side, not making the game for, what, 6 years? and not releasing updates every half a year with bits of conten
It's obvious you've never done this kind of work. Do you know how hard it is to do work of this quality? Sometimes you have to spend weeks on a single animation. Don't compare this to those flat rendered, soulless games you play that don't even have any proper lighting.
 

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I searched and didnt find links other than mega for the uncompressed game?
Weird thats its not even in the "latest update" too.
Im scared of that ai thing... i really liked the style since lucky mark.. hope it still keep it and doesnt change the facial expression and stuff too much
as you can see on 1st post F95 links are from 2024.
 
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