Others Completed Artificial Academy 2 [MiniPPX v8] [Illusion]

[Tsugumi]

Riujin Not really, the game is the "rule" [rather than exception] for Illusion games: a glorified animation gallery. Short-term interactions are [relationship] stats grinders for sex, long-term interactions ARE sex. Add in the fact that relationships decay faster the more lovers you have - and you can never make the whole class love you (without manipulating settings like disabling hate gains, for example).

Illusion games are, ironically, hardly games, they are more character creators - highly customizable character creators - than anything else. Entertainment of the "make your own waifu/husbando and add them to the game world to have sex with them" variety.

There ARE "endings" of sorts, like getting your girlfriend pregnant / getting fired as a teacher for having sex with students / getting killed by a jealous/evil lover, et cetera. But there are no "winning conditions" since there is nothing to "win", in the first place.

 

[Riujin]

Riujin Not really, the game is the "rule" [rather than exception] for Illusion games: a glorified animation gallery. Short-term interactions are [relationship] stats grinders for sex, long-term interactions ARE sex. Add in the fact that relationships decay faster the more lovers you have - and you can never make the whole class love you (without manipulating settings like disabling hate gains, for example).

Illusion games are, ironically, hardly games, they are more character creators - highly customizable character creators - than anything else. Entertainment of the "make your own waifu/husbando and add them to the game world to have sex with them" variety.

There ARE "endings" of sorts, like getting your girlfriend pregnant / getting fired as a teacher for having sex with students / getting killed by a jealous/evil lover, et cetera. But there are no "winning conditions" since there is nothing to "win", in the first place.

That you for the exhaustive reply!

 

[smnb]

Riujin Not really, the game is the "rule" [rather than exception] for Illusion games: a glorified animation gallery. Short-term interactions are [relationship] stats grinders for sex, long-term interactions ARE sex.

And the worst thing is, AA2 is probably the one with most gameplay of them, or at least in TOP <few>. Imagine how it could be if they put some thought into that.

 

[Tsugumi]

Imagine how it could be if they put some thought into that.

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How would "gameplay" even work in AA? What sort of "gameplay" would that be? Designing a whole new franchise from scratch to accomodate that would probably be easier (to avoid blowing up what you already have, if nothing else).

 

[Riujin]

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How would "gameplay" even work in AA? What sort of "gameplay" would that be? Designing a whole new franchise from scratch to accomodate that would probably be easier (to avoid blowing up what you already have, if nothing else).

I think it's a simple question of "market interest", there aren't that MANY GAMES with porn that have actual gameplay to it; the only ones that come to my mind are some specifics VNs and some H-RPGs that dare to change the formula, while the rest are simply "copy and paste". The target audience is probably not that MUCH interested in this sort of thing in my opinion; I could be wrong, but even the so much claimed Custom Maid 3d seemed VERY shallow to me in terms of gameplay, it was mostly a: design your waifu and fuck it, game. (I haven't played Custom order though, no idea if that improves on the gameplay side)

TL;DR Porn games with good gameplay probably don't sell that much

 

[smnb]

Tsugumi: Well, I admit that it probably sounded unfair, I aimed more for "sad frustration", not "harsh criticism". It's not like Illusion does it wrong, while others do it right. In fact, I can't think of good example of others doing it right. And Illusion definitely had some good ideas.

Character creator is a big one, that was fantastic idea. But it's not enough, e.g. HS/HS2 are just improved porn, not bad, but also nothing to be too excited about. Porn in general is boring, it's much more interesting with some depth, stories, personalities, emotions.

I like AA/AA2, because they feel lively, many NPCs you can freely interact with and they interact with each other, it's nice. Of course it worked best when it was new, after years it loses some power. But it's still reasonably enjoyable, even though it's basically just stats grinding (interact with someone repeatedly until they like or hate you or someone else).

AI Shoujo is nice idea too, island, free roaming, cool. But as "simulation crafting and survival game", as it's also described... yeah, right, there's a bit of it, but it gets boring pretty quickly. You can have some limited fun with clumsy house building, but it doesn't save it. And sure, on one hand it takes it away from porn, but on the other it's not necessarily bad, because just porn is not that interesting. And maybe it's just me, but the whole thing is kind of depressing, with the girls being some androids you get from pods, it's weird.

I don't have any sure recipe for perfect and successful game. But you know what, maybe start with putting existing ideas together and make Shipwreck Academy™. Nice island, free roaming, plenty of NPCs and interactions. Add some survival aspects that actually matter. Maybe (N)PCs can form aliances or tribes and interact also at this level. Perhaps some mini stories or quests, but that may be difficult, because while it could help a lot with sucking the player in, there's only so many you can add, and then what.

As for sexual content, add shitload of positions, or even better, invent some more free system where you don't have just the 100% fixed predefined ones. Maybe we're not there yet, but computers did get much more powerful and should be able to handle it. At least some illusion of more freedom. Slight variations in positions (movement of free limbs, ...), either random or depending on environment. Or transitions between positions, that would be awesome (and not easy, I know). I'd also say details, like body parts fitting perfectly in each other, because after all, sex should be very big part, but it's Japan, so not much chance for that.

Reading it again... I'll keep dreaming.

TL;DR Porn games with good gameplay probably don't sell that much

Residences on Mars don't sell either. Could it be similar problem? You know, maybe if there was one first...

 

[Coppermane]

Did anyone ever figure how to play this on win 10 without it being severely broken?

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Did anyone ever figure how to play this on win 10 without it being severely broken?

This has been asked before multiple times, and l play on W10 with no probs... you should use the guide...

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Please read everything, especially the troubleshooting

 

[Crys Heart]

What does the checkbox labelled "subtitles" in script actually do? I assume it was subtitles for the "everyone, let's..." commands, but if that's the case then it doesn't seem to work for me.

 

[Tsugumi]

Crys Heart

1. If your AAU version is not 1.9.1 - update it. 1.8.x and some 1.7.x versions were missing their subtitles files, 1.9.x versions have them.
2. In the AAU Launcher, go to Graphics and make sure "Enable Overlays" is ticked.
3. Enable the Subtitles script.

My bet would be on 1, though: go to the AAUnlimited folder and check the subtitles folder - it probably is empty.

 

[Crys Heart]

Crys Heart

1. If your AAU version is not 1.9.1 - update it. 1.8.x and some 1.7.x versions were missing their subtitles files, 1.9.x versions have them.
2. In the AAU Launcher, go to Graphics and make sure "Enable Overlays" is ticked.
3. Enable the Subtitles script.

My bet would be on 1, though: go to the AAUnlimited folder and check the subtitles folder - it probably is empty.

Huh, it is empty. Don't know why I didn't think of that earlier

I think I already updated the game, but I'll do it again just in case. Still, in the event that doing so doesn't fill the subtitles folder either, is there somewhere else I can download it separately?

 

[Tsugumi]

Crys Heart Well...thing is, if updating AAU does NOT fill the subtitles folder, then you have a bigger problem - one called "you did NOT update correctly". If you follow the update instructions and just throw AAUnlimited folder from the archive on top of the...well...AAUnlimited folder in your game folder, all the necessary files go where they should (this is why instructions explicitly say not to touch/delete the files already in the game folder, and just overwrite them with the ones from the archive).

With that in mind, you can simply open the archive, grab the subtitles folder there and just copy/paste it to the same spot within your game folder.

P.s. I actually mentioned the subs issue a while back: I noticed it because I came back to AA and did a fresh install. As RNG would have it, this happened during 1.9.0 (empty subs folder), so I went back to grab an earlier version and just copy/pasted the subs to the game folder.

 

[mayylor]

So I slapped 21_CCC_CIV_v2_1.ppx in the data folder but I'm not seeing any new clothing, I'm assuming I missed a step somewhere but I can't find anything in the guide.
I'd appreciate some help on this.

 

[NotThatWiseGuy]

Hello there! Can someone help me regarding modding this game? (Not sure if I can ask this here, but let me know)

So, got the AA2Mini version and went to the "AA2 PP2 Clothing List 2020" but I have absolutely no idea what file the clothing mod is...

Also, there're some mods with the .ppx format, how do I use those mods?

Thank you all in advance.

 

[Tsugumi]

NotThatWiseGuy PPX can only be used alongside PP, not PP2. On that note, I strongly recommend not using AA2Mini - especially not the one in OP, AAU in it is extremely outdated -, and following the "Modern Installation Guide" under Other Sources instead to get AA2MiniPPX and a bunch of PPX mods up and running.

 

[mayylor]

Unfortunately for me, AA2MiniPPX crashes after clicking launch. I tried everything the guide mentions to fix this to no avail, I can run AA2Mini just fine but AA2MiniPPX refuses to work.

As a matter of fact, if I try to run AA2Mini with 'Use .ppx resource loader' enabled, it crashes just like AA2MiniPPX.

EDIT: Nevermind, managed to fix it. I was a moron and didn't follow the guide properly, forgot to install NET Core 3.1 Runtime.

 

[Tsugumi]

mayylor Kind of redundant since you did switch, but the reason your AA2Mini crashed was probably because you forgot to untick "Use .pp2 resource loader" after enabling the PPX loader, I did mention the two were incompatible.

 

[NotThatWiseGuy]

NotThatWiseGuy PPX can only be used alongside PP, not PP2. On that note, I strongly recommend not using AA2Mini - especially not the one in OP, AAU in it is extremely outdated -, and following the "Modern Installation Guide" under Other Sources instead to get AA2MiniPPX and a bunch of PPX mods up and running.

Hey, thanks for explaining!! Shoudn't one of the main files on this thread be the AA2MiniPPX version?

But still, thanks for the help (love this community), gonna try downloading from the modern guide. <3

EDIT: Why most people upload the mods on MEGA? I really hate the pay wall on that site... Is there a way around it?

 

[NotThatWiseGuy]

Hello,

Another question: would anyone know where I can find one of those mods that can change the season of the game? (the background of the map to winter, autumn and such)

Thanks

 

[Dopplyn]

Hi people, I hope you are well. I'm a noob and I installed this game yesterday, I just downloaded and installed the mods but every time I load a card the character doesn't have the same characteristics as the card. And when I edit a card, AAedit crashes and the png is corrupted, how do I solve this?