kioryu52

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To not automatically reject Zoey, there's a behind-the-scenes check that looks at these items:
  • Mad at Zoey or not (Ep 9 choice): +3 score if not mad
  • Derek or Zoey better friend (Ep 9): +1 if said Zoey
  • Offer to let Zoey crash in your room (Ep 9): +1
  • Photo with Zoey (Ep 9): +1
  • Zoey in top 3 for costumes (Ep 9): +1
  • Said not okay with Jacob going after Zoey (Ep 10): +3
  • Hung out with Zoey in Ep 10: +2
  • Gave Zoey hug (Ep 11 choice): +1
You need to have at least 8 points from the above (and for people on MJ path, not told either you love them) to have the option of Returning to Zoey rather than Rejecting her. The Rejection if you have the choice is also different than the automatic one.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! One last question: I don' quite remember the "crash in your room" offer in EP 9, that's locked if you're mad at her, right? God fucking dammit. Gonna have to play these last 3 eps all again soon enough.
 

ChipLecsap

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Josy is actually chasing after Fuckface's dick all this time right under Sage's nose and without any apparent remorse. Still doesn't cause Sage to prohibit MC from seeing her. Also, if Sage really trusts Fuckface, then it shouldn't matter if Zoey tries, does it? She might try, will get shot down and that's the end of it.

Unless all that talk about trust is just that, talk. :whistle:
Oh all the time, that is new, I love how you can shape your own reality .

so, just a little factuality. Sage officially became MC's girlfriend in the end of episode 8. ep 9 Josy ask you a question, ( - but you can even decide to not take a picture with her - ) you are free to answer to no.

in ep 10, you don't even have to visit her. IF you do, she say she had a crush on you might still have, not barrageing you with her emotional love confession that I always love you " pick me "
and MC say I'm with Sage. - This if you actually visit her.

Now remind me of with Zoey, MC has any choice to not speak with her?! Except maybe not inviting her to read your mom diary. She show up in every party whether you want it or not.

in this episode you talked more with her than with some of your girlfriends. and there was not even a choice to not talk to her.

and unlike with Josy, you actually presented the option to go back to her.

:unsure: it's not looks the same to me at all.

and all this that if you actually choose to have history with Josy. Zoey by canonically, not by your choice, is an ex girlfriend, remind me who should Sage be more worried about again ?:cautious:
 

Chillout1984

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i just played a route where I'm rolling with Lily while saying to Sage I'm satisfied with rolling and don't want more.

It really made me feel bad for Lily after MC has sex with her. Her expressions really say it all and even made me tears eyed
 

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THANK YOU SO MUCH! One last question: I don' quite remember the "crash in your room" offer in EP 9, that's locked if you're mad at her, right? God fucking dammit. Gonna have to play these last 3 eps all again soon enough.
That option is only available if you don't spend the night with any girl
 
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ChipLecsap

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i just played a route where I'm rolling with Lily while saying to Sage I'm satisfied with rolling and don't want more.

It really made me feel bad for Lily after MC has sex with her. Her expressions really say it all and even made me tears eyed
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Yeah, I can see that, it's say it all :cautious::LOL:
 
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JohnnyR6

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Can this game be played without the mini-games? I used to love this game, but then hit a wall with the mansion mini-game...I didn't like most of these mini-games, and the mansion mini-game was a bridge too far. I'm thinking of restarting with a new playthrough, if I can cut through all of this.
 

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I have a question I am doing this English test and it's the first one after the party. I used a scramber check but when I type in the words most of them don't work. Is there a answer list for this Screenshot (557).png
 

ChipLecsap

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no, when you're still in bed with her, just after the sex. She really looks sad. The one where MC says that he should be the one who holds his guard up to not let emotions play a role in it.
oh, when you go vanilla on her, yeah she pretty hated that
 

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Yeah whatever the player does in this episode, the one of Josy and Maya who sleeps alone and didnt got a "i love you" will look very unhappy at the end of the episode

They all behave kinda unfortunate too, the MC telling only one of them that he loves her, the one who got the "i love you" telling the other one that he said it to her ... it just looks and feels bad no matter what you do.

Does anyone else feel like the game is balanced towards maya somewhat when you try to keep it balanced?

I prefer Josy and in my pt's when i get all the points and even take more Josy events (i usually do josy after pete's visit, maya movie tv night, josy ep11 again) i always get the maya scene. I had to create a pt where i kinda always favored josy to get the josy scene.
In my case, I kept the Maya/Josy event choices essentially even, so the code to determine which scene I got in Ep 11 falls back to which has more relative relationship points. I'm pretty sure I got most, if not all, I can get on my particular path for both Maya and Josy, and I definitely had a higher proportion of Maya points compared to Josy for the calculation. So it seems to me that if you've been spending time evenly, it might be set up to slightly favor Maya.

As for forcing this MJ drama here, that annoyed me because I'd very intentionally been making a point of paying attention to both Maya and Josy, and supporting their relationship with each other. The last time a check came up for if I was treating them evenly (at the Halloween threesome when they compare), I passed as "balanced" without issue. So not even having the option in this Chapter irked me quite a bit because it essentially forced my MC to behave "out of character" for how I'd played him so far. An "in-character" choice would have had me pick Josy since I spent time with Maya in Chapter 10. And when I told Maya I loved her, you can bet your ass I'd be arranging some time ASAP, even if just a quick coffee break, to tell Josy the same.

I am, however, hesitantly giving DPC the benefit of the doubt for now and guessing the drama was introduced because:
  1. Chapter 11 is the penultimate episode of this Season, and if you successfully got the contracts last chapter there otherwise wouldn't be much drama in the MJ relationship to "amp up the drama" and resolve next chapter. I haven't played any other paths this update yet, but I know DPC loves drama and it sounds like there's some drama in the other branches too.
  2. I've suspected that a possible throuple breakup could be coming soon if you make poor decisions and treat them unevenly. Narratively it'd make sense to be soon, especially since next Season is supposedly the final and there needs to be time for possible solo Maya/Josy branches. Even if a breakup is not forced and you successfully save the relationship, using some of the same story elements, renders, and script in this Chapter is "efficient" to include as "content" for both possible outcomes. And DPC already has a ton of branching, so I could see why he might temporarily reduce some here.
  3. If it is possible to keep the throuple, including some brief drama that you successfully resolve essentially "shows" the player the narrative "bullet" you dodged. If things stayed happy full-time, people that made good choices might not really realize they resolved some potential drama and some people that like that type of drama/tension might find the path "boring".
Now, I started BaDIK before I even heard of Acting Lessons. Needless to say, I've been a bit nervous since learning how the throuple was treated in there since I tend to prefer poly paths when given the option. I hope DPC doesn't perform a repeat. I'm hesitantly optimistic because the Maya/Josy deep discussion they have near the end of Bella's party on a "healthy" MJ throuple path is actually a good example of the types of difficult, but necessary, discussions needed to keep relationships healthy and does actually start resolving some the issues in their own relationship. And the existence of some earlier MJ checks having a possible "balanced" outcome does suggest one might be possible long-term.

However, if there's literally no possible way to save the MJ throuple regardless of what you choose, let's say I'm going to be very, very disappointed. One game with an unavoidable "bad end" for a poly relationship might be a choice you can write off as a "narrative decision". Two times would be a trend that would tell me DPC is just biased against polyamory since, in reality, poly relationships are on average just as healthy and committed as monogamous ones. Does anyone think that the Jill, Sage, or Bella monogamous branches will end in unavoidable breakups? I very much doubt it.

I have very little tolerance for such narrow-minded prejudice. If it turns out to be the case here, I will likely never play a game by DPC again and actively advise others to do the same.
 
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mruggeri2

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Check few pages upthread for specifics, but in Zoey's case it boils down to how you chose for MC to interact with her in past couple of episodes. Basically, giving her cold shoulder and/or telling Jacob you're okay with him hitting on her is interpreted by the game as sign MC has moved on. Same goes for telling either Maya or Josy that he loves them, which can happen in Ep.11.
Can you tell Maya that you love her? When does that happen? I seemed to have missed it.
 

Chillout1984

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oh, when you go vanilla on her, yeah she pretty hated that
No, that gives a different reaction. I got it this way:

- Be on Chick Others route with both rolling lily and dating Nicole
- Say to Sage you're happy with rolling lily
- During Christmas party drop Nicole for Lily
- During sex with Lily go hard on her

this makes her extremely sad because she feels love for Tremolo, but he just wants rolling. She even ends with "i should better go" while slowly walking away
 
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