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Of which MC currently still thinks is a fake. However if you impress Tommy enough to the point he's going to think you're going to be an even bigger asshole (throwing Penny and Kylie out being a requirement for this), he could tell MC the truth in the future.
Vinny is still obviously an antagonist. And Rio still gets fucked up. You dont have to be romancing Rio (at least in terms of the side girls) for that to piss MC off.
 

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That totally depends on routes, I don't think Quinn is particularly open to MC off her route. She didn't even talk to him in episode 11. Other than Quinn/Riona routes maybe Quinn will deal with Vinny personally.
True. Quinn doesn't even call MC for help rescuing Riona if you didn't help Quinn in episode 10.
 

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Vinny is still obviously an antagonist. And Rio still gets fucked up. You dont have to be romancing Rio (at least in terms of the side girls) for that to piss MC off.
We don't even know yet if MC will learn the truth about Riona if you're not on Quinn's (and possibly Riona's) route.
 

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The guide is up-to-date for Episode 11 – Paradigm Shift

Casiope's guide is hands down the best guide for the game, and I know many of you rely on it. The amount of effort and dedication he put into creating such an incredible guide is truly unmatched.

I’ve done my best to maintain the high standard of his work, though I’ll admit, I’m not as talented as he is. Here’s what I’ve worked on:
  • Choices, conditions, and consequences for Episode 11.
  • Pack Quest #6.
  • Special Renders/2D Arts and Vault codes for Episode 11.
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After rereading it, I realized that in order to save the relationship on Sage's branch with Jade you need to have little TC. Because judging from this guide the main character talks about seeing a long term relationship with Sage even with Jade if he has less than 4 points.
 

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We don't even know yet if MC will learn the truth about Riona if you're not on Quinn's route.
He will do learn about Riona on her route, last image is literally her staring at her phone screen if you messaged her after meeting with Camilla. But I don't think she will reply unless you're on her route. So Vinny showdown is unlikely to happen other than Quinn/Riona paths.

And I highly doubt it will happen on Lily path, Lily isn't particularly close to Quinn and would throw her under bus to save her and her stripper sister, pretty logical if you ask me.

Though I doubt Vinny has her or any other customer on high priority after Quinn pulled the biggest fuck you against Buddy and Co. (Massive respect for Quinn for pulling that).

Maybe that's why I didn't reply to KARAMBA when he posted another hideous Lily edit. :cautious:
 
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He will do learn about Riona on her route, last image is literally her staring at her phone screen if you messaged her after meeting with Camilla. But I don't think she will reply unless you're on her route. So Vinny showdown is unlikely to happen other than Quinn/Riona paths.
Nah, I've got a feeling Tommy will have a bone to pick with Vinny as well, so no matter which route you're on I'm pretty sure there will be a showdown. It's just the reason why that will be different, but the result will probably be the same. We also still have Lily's route, who was threatened by Vinny.
 
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Not really a fan except for some of the h-scenes. Just going to warn folks who haven't played yet that math test minigame is annoyingly badly designed. The meaning of the term "step" is inconsistent and some of the puzzles allow multiple correct answers which are not accounted for by the results. The image matrices from previous versions were copied from wherever so they were actually fun, no idea why they switched to scuffed minesweeper. Also that cliffhanger was hilariously unimpactful.
 

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You already had a choice you could make at the end of season 2 anyway.
Well that's it it, you've had the choice. You either got with a MG or kept your options open with a side girls and even some of those side girls have now had choices.

It's not going to be a case of Jill caught us cheating on Bianca and we've split up, now I have to choose another girl, no you chose Jill way back when and fucked up, deal with it.
 
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Well that's it it, you've had the choice. You either got with a MG or kept your options open with a side girls and even some of those side girls have now had choices.

It's not going to be a case of Jill caught us cheating on Bianca and we've split up, now I have to choose another girl, no you chose Jill way back when and fucked up, deal with it.
I think Jill cheaters will either miraculously score A throuple or most probably will lead to the boring result of being left Blue balled, unless you picked up Zoey or Cinderella. Or traumatic result of confrontation with Ball Kicker Jill.

Even side Girls needed some sort of investment, which you locked yourself by pursuing Jill. So even most side routes will be out of your grasp like Lily, Quinn etc. maybe you can still score Riona, in case you kissed her during Halloween but highly doubt it.
 
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Well that's it it, you've had the choice. You either got with a MG or kept your options open with a side girls and even some of those side girls have now had choices.

It's not going to be a case of Jill caught us cheating on Bianca and we've split up, now I have to choose another girl, no you chose Jill way back when and fucked up, deal with it.
DIK MC with the Others path:

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Well that's it it, you've had the choice. You either got with a MG or kept your options open with a side girls and even some of those side girls have now had choices.

It's not going to be a case of Jill caught us cheating on Bianca and we've split up, now I have to choose another girl, no you chose Jill way back when and fucked up, deal with it.
True. As other people (don't remember if you were one of them) has stated: If there will be another choice in ep 12, it's probably on the Others route.
- We know Lily and Nicole are exclusive
- It's pretty clear that Quinn isn't nearly as interested in MC if you're rolling with Lily than if you're not, so this could become a "DIK Jill situation" where MC ends up alone if you choose Quinn
- We have Cathy, Riona, Jade and maybe a return of Nora left when it comes to established "relationships"

Imo all other fuckbuddies might indeed end either up in nothing or as a result of our choices.
 

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When I first discovered this game I was 20 years old fresh, new student and Cyberpunk 2077 was soon releasing.

7 episodes later I'm 24 and finished uni and working.The thought I will be 26 and playing GTA 6 on PC BEFORE I get to play the end of Season 3 of this game is crazy.

At this point I wonder how many kids I will have once Episode 16 releases :unsure:

60 fps man. Wonder what else DPC thinks of to prolong the journey.
 

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This keeps getting brought up and I just can't see it... I could understand if we had two seasons after this, but we don't. As far as we know we have 1 season left that will have between 2 and 4 episodes with x amount of those being endings.

While yeah it's likely we are going to get relationship ends, different girls etc the choice won't be the players. The game will likely solidify your relationship or not based on the choices you've made. Its time for consequences now. Not more choices.
But that's the point, episode 12 should be (at least If he does the same thing he did in AL) the last episode to make important choices. And what better way to head into a supposedly more linear final season than getting to choose your relationship (for the SGs) at the end of the season finale. It's not like we will have to build those relationships from zero, all of the "Premium SGs" are pretty well developed as far as relationships go.

What should NOT happen is take characters like Tara, Cinderella, Sally etc, and build a full on path with them from scratch. THAT would be a bad decision.
 

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But that's the point, episode 12 should be (at least If he does the same thing he did in AL) the last episode to make important choices. And what better way to head into a supposedly more linear final season than getting to choose your relationship (for the SGs) at the end of the season finale. It's not like we will have to build those relationships from zero, all of the "Premium SGs" are pretty well developed as far as relationships go.

What should NOT happen is take characters like Tara, Cinderella, Sally etc, and build a full on path with them from scratch. THAT would be a bad decision.
I'd preffer if he would just make 2 additional "ending" EPs after the story wraps up
 

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What connection do you see between Burke and the Restaurant?

I never understood how you came to the conclusion that Burke is linked to the Restaurant.

Burke gives scholarships in exchange for sexual favors, I agree that fits with the story. But why would he be linked to the Restaurant?

He's banging students in exchange for scholarships, why make them prostitutes on top of that? Even if we imagine Quinn sending him candidates for the scholarship vs. sex deal, that doesn't explain why he'd be tied to the Restaurant.

The Restaurant is shown to be a small business, given its small activity, it only brings in pocket money for the girls. So money doesn't strike me as a valid reason for Burke to get involved, given that the guy's already rich, so to take a big risk, it has to be worth it. A millionaire who goes into crime is in it to make more millions, the Restaurant doesn't make that much money.

The sexual motive doesn't hold up (he's banging students on scholarships, no need to prostitute them), and neither does the money motive. Worse, it involves the HOTs, of which his daughter is a member.

I really don't understand how you link Burke to the Restaurant.
 
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What should NOT happen is take characters like Tara, Cinderella, Sally etc, and build a full on path with them from scratch. THAT would be a bad decision.
I could see it as more of a linear, kinetic VN kind of thing during the epilogue if MC saved himself up and didn't sleep around in the first two seasons. I feel like Cindi and Sally have the most going for them despite not having that much interaction/development from a relationship standpoint. For Cindi it's mainly due to the halloween closet room interaction, I'm not sure why DPC would add her there other than to tease or set something up for the future. So while there likely wouldn't be a full development like with the MG or the OG SG's, it's possible that there will be a late stage kinetic story development instead. As for Sally, I feel like it could develop into a relationship too since they're likely to be paired up in the lab more often which gives more chances for something to happen. Or it could just be a red herring setup by Magnar, we'll never know.

Just my perspective anyway. I know there's another VN that did something similar, with a character that was introduced a bit late into the game but he still made it work anyway, towards the end. I wouldn't be surprised if DPC would do the same even if it would feel a bit rushed.
 
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What connection do you see between Burke and the Restaurant?

I never understood how you came to the conclusion that Burke is linked to the Restaurant.

Burke gives scholarships in exchange for sexual favors, I agree that fits with the story. But why would he be linked to the Restaurant?

He's banging students in exchange for scholarships, why make them prostitutes on top of that? Even if we imagine Quinn sending him candidates for the scholarship vs. sex deal, that doesn't explain why he'd be tied to the Restaurant.

The Restaurant is shown to be a small business, given its small activity, it only brings in pocket money for the girls. So money doesn't strike me as a valid reason for Burke to get involved, given that the guy's already rich, so to take a big risk, it has to be worth it. A millionaire who goes into crime is in it to make more millions, the Restaurant doesn't make that much money.

The sexual motive doesn't hold up (he's banging students on scholarships, no need to prostitute them), and neither does the money motive. Worse, it involves the HOTs, of which his daughter is a member.

I really don't understand how you link Burke to the Restaurant.
Restaurant wasn't about money for Stephen, it was probably about power and sex.
 
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