VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Chillout1984]

Agree with that, storming out like that would have been way down my list of options. We could have been given an option to chuck a tantrum or just say to the girls, hey you 2 need space to sort stuff out, so do I, I'm gonna stay somewhere else for a while and we'll circle back to it. The story progression would still have been the same, and I would have felt a lot better about MC leaving.

Also a bad thing that during the text conversation with Josy afterwards, MC also can only react as if he is a kid with a tantrum.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.




Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.

Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

Nothing is below Buddy after what happened with Rio I would 100% believe it if someone told me he whored out his own mother.

 

[Vill3m]

Now that the whole loan situation is resolved, Josy no longer needs to keep paying for her share of Maya's dorm and can officially move out. Does Maya stay in the dorm and risk getting a new roommate or does she move into the HOTs' house as well?

Josy moves officially out and Cinderella becomes Maya's surprise new roomie. If you're not on throuple path then eventually JM break up and Maya starts cucking the players with her new girlfriend-roommate.

 

[TonyMurray]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

Yeah, I thought that too, and I think someone posted the same thing a day or two ago. The downside for me (in terms of this progressing the story) is that there's (currently) no way for the two to be linked by those in the story. At the moment, we (as the MC, not as the viewer/reader) can only get the Lana story in full from Jill, and only get the Rox story from Quinn. I can see Jill telling her story on other paths, in time, but I can't see Quinn spilling if you're not on her path.

Maybe something will come out from the project Jill is setting up, and Quinn will hear about it, or possibly even go to one of the talks herself, and make the realisation there?

 

[felicemastronzo]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

I don't think there is any doubt that things are amd differently. Buddy is the monster of the current level,

 

[grarg]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

More likely DPC's limited knowledge of drug induced deaths. Sounds way too contrived.

...which is exactly the kind of soap-opera narrative you can expect...

Who's next, Tommy? Riona?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Yeah, I thought that too, and I think someone posted the same thing a day or two ago. The downside for me (in terms of this progressing the story) is that there's (currently) no way for the two to be linked by those in the story. At the moment, we (as the MC, not as the viewer/reader) can only get the Lana story in full from Jill, and only get the Rox story from Quinn. I can see Jill telling her story on other paths, in time, but I can't see Quinn spilling if you're not on her path.

Maybe something will come out from the project Jill is setting up, and Quinn will hear about it, or possibly even go to one of the talks herself, and make the realisation there?

I'm not sure Quinn would ever go to that, even with prodding from her MC. Maybe after Buddy is taken care of?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Nothing is below Buddy after what happened with Rio I would 100% believe it if someone told me he whored out his own mother.

I don't think there is any doubt that things are amd differently. Buddy is the monster of the current level,

Buddy in my death note, without any excuses, just like Vinny.

Yeah, I thought that too, and I think someone posted the same thing a day or two ago. The downside for me (in terms of this progressing the story) is that there's (currently) no way for the two to be linked by those in the story. At the moment, we (as the MC, not as the viewer/reader) can only get the Lana story in full from Jill, and only get the Rox story from Quinn. I can see Jill telling her story on other paths, in time, but I can't see Quinn spilling if you're not on her path.

Maybe something will come out from the project Jill is setting up, and Quinn will hear about it, or possibly even go to one of the talks herself, and make the realisation there?

This story is primarily designed for the player, not the MC - he is limited in knowledge of the world around him and the MC exists in this detailed world where the surrounding characters live a full life - this is part of the DPC narrative of creating a living environment, which we do not see in many AVNs, where the MC is the center of the universe, which makes them dead worlds.
Your last assumption is possible, that this event will probably be for Quinn and Jill, and the MC will not necessarily be there. This scene can live without him, like many others.

 

[Catsup3227]

I thought it was also disappointing that Jill accepts it way too easily if you say she should wear skater clothes, especially since earlier she said she wouldn't wear such clothing because it isn't her style.

Well she is just a badly written character that is supposed to be naive because of her privileged and probably sheltered upbringing but she just becomes this trope or caricature of a real character. It is like she knows next to nothing about anything that is going on in the real world and when she finally lets loose she's doing almost a 180 turn on how she used to be.

Don't get me wrong, deep down I like Jill and would love for her to be a better character, but as DPC has written her she is just... meh.

 

[SirDawcio]

Mensa challenge

Good, he thinks about gooners ability to think smart and lay down IQ tests while their cocks are up

 

[TonyMurray]

This story is primarily designed for the player, not the MC - he is limited in knowledge of the world around him and the MC exists in this detailed world where the surrounding characters live a full life - this is part of the DPC narrative of creating a living environment, which we do not see in many AVNs, where the MC is the center of the universe, which makes them dead worlds.
Your last assumption is possible, that this event will probably be for Quinn and Jill, and the MC will not necessarily be there. This scene can live without him, like many others.

Well, of course the game is for the player... What I mean though is that it's all very well for us to know things, but unless the MC knows them, they won't be able to progress the overall story. If it's important, it will almost certainly have to involve MC bringing the two parts together, otherwise there needs to be some way for the information to become at least a little bit public, so the two can overlap (basically so Jill can learn of it). It's possible, of course that Jill will never find out, but since the information is in the game, I'd like to think she would have to find out somehow.

I suppose another way for the overlap to happen would be for Quinn's revenge to be successful, the police take down Buddy and his operation, and Quinn tells her story - it would be out of character for her to do so, but maybe Buddy's arrest would change things in that respect, and make her open up to a support group, or at least a Jill-path MC (unlikely). Jill could hear details through that of how Rox died, and compare it to what she knows of Lana's death, putting the pieces together from there. I don't know if closure is the right word, but finding out who was behind it and learning that they are being served justice might have some small healing effect for Jill and her family.

 

[ModiThorrson]

Now that the whole loan situation is resolved, Josy no longer needs to keep paying for her share of Maya's dorm and can officially move out. Does Maya stay in the dorm and risk getting a new roommate or does she move into the HOTs' house as well?

In my ideal headcanon world, she stays in the dorm and spends most of her nights in MC's room at the frat.

 

[felicemastronzo]

This story is primarily designed for the player, not the MC - he is limited in knowledge of the world around him and the MC exists in this detailed world where the surrounding characters live a full life - this is part of the DPC narrative of creating a living environment, which we do not see in many AVNs, where the MC is the center of the universe, which makes them dead worlds.
Your last assumption is possible, that this event will probably be for Quinn and Jill, and the MC will not necessarily be there. This scene can live without him, like many others.

too bad it works the same way for everything MC should know... and by now he's lost the motivation to even ask questions...



it's fine that MC doesn't know that Buddy killed Rox, if he's not romantically linked to Quinn, he basically doesn't care, and the same goes for Lana/Jill, Buddy is already a threat, no further “universal” motivation is needed.

 

[Fapparition]

Only if you were smart enough to go on their route. If you didn't, you're stuck with Derek... Cool we can go to the Pink Rose with him, but we always end up imo with the most ugly one of the strippers that we know of: Rose.

It would also be a major trollmove by DPC if Ellie is one of the other VIP Roses

Don't we also get an additional scene with Jill if we choose to stay with Derek?

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

You're not alone with this theory. I'm pretty sure some people here wrote something similar few days after the release of ep.11

Yeah, I thought that too, and I think someone posted the same thing a day or two ago. The downside for me (in terms of this progressing the story) is that there's (currently) no way for the two to be linked by those in the story. At the moment, we (as the MC, not as the viewer/reader) can only get the Lana story in full from Jill, and only get the Rox story from Quinn. I can see Jill telling her story on other paths, in time, but I can't see Quinn spilling if you're not on her path.

Maybe something will come out from the project Jill is setting up, and Quinn will hear about it, or possibly even go to one of the talks herself, and make the realisation there?

If the revelation of Rox's death to Quinn is something DPC intends to do, it will probably be a major event, meaning DPC will make it happen regardless of the route we choose. Something like Quinn hearing Lana's story directly from Jill. So, MC's knowledge about Lana or Rox's death would be insignificant or have only a minor effect at best.

 

[Chillout1984]

If the revelation of Rox's death to Quinn is something DPC intends to do, it will probably be a major event, meaning DPC will make it happen regardless of the route we choose. Something like Quinn hearing Lana's story directly from Jill. So, MC's knowledge about Lana or Rox's death would be insignificant or have only a minor effect at best.

It's possible and even likely if Quinn survives the war with Buddy and Vinny that this will happen. People here have theorized (and I could see it happening) just after release of ep 11 that Quinn will go to a drug intervention (or whatever it's called) meeting that Than organises and could meet Jill and hear her story there. If that indeed happens, I'm pretty certain Quinn will tell her story as well.

 

[iamcomming]

I have an idea that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Now we can say that Quinn's flashback from Ep.6 and the intro of Ep.11 are the same event from different perspectives. Earlier we saw it through the eyes of little Quinn who got out of bed and Lana's perspective: Buddy and Rox discuss the movie and the rat that should have been killed in it. We see Rox give Jonathan a poisoned dose of, which Lana later died from. Then from Buddy's words we know that Rox died of an overdose and Quinn saw it, but here's the interesting thing. If we are on Quinn's route, we learn that this happened on the same day that Lana and Jonathan bought the drugs.

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Quinn remembers it very well. What's interesting is that Rox dies with the same symptoms as Lana - convulsions and foaming at the mouth.
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Then Quinn experienced a clouding of her mind from the experience and she cannot remember what exactly Buddy shouted at the dying Rox. Both Lana and Rox died from a fentanyl overdose. And not only Lana, but most likely Rox didn't know that the drugs were poisoned. It's doubtful that the leader of a gang, an experienced drug dealer who regularly uses drugs himself, would do such a stupid thing consciously. Rox is a criminal, but I didn't get the impression of him as a stupid man.
Lana's and Rox's drugs were from the same batch and they were all poisoned - most likely these were Rox's personal supplies and he sold a small dose of his drugs for "a party was a rookie", thinking they were good. And who poisoned the batch? There's no need to think long - it was Buddy. Staging an overdose is a good way to remove the boss and take his place, while causing a minimum of suspicion.
I think Buddy is the culprit in the death of both Lana and Rox.

it was my first thought too, but my second was to "only buddy got any gain from Rox's death" to legitimalize the idea. my third thought was "why need anything to support it? because there is nothing what pointing out to buddy. if we dont count the fact, no other character was showed up, so no alternative version, only buddy, must be buddy"

buddy is dead for what he did with my Rio, but i really want know what was he shouting to Rox in the last moments.
since its dpc's plot... it could be the poisoned drug is an accident by someone random noname worker or somehow by quinn's mom...

however, buddy was clever with quinn to take out to an orphan house. alive. he as sick psychopath could have killed her with Rox. (if was the one who he killed Rox) it makes more less suspicion.

and quinn... she cares with her dad, but it doesnt looks like she did anything to find out why was poisoned the drug... she just accept it... it really doesnt fit in her character. revenge ratting vinny. revenge call police. no revenge for dad. very consistent
edit: even she do some little revenge for the ep7 hots party hugging post, but i forgot what was that.

 

[treechild1]

Only if you were smart enough to go on their route. If you didn't, you're stuck with Derek... Cool we can go to the Pink Rose with him, but we always end up imo with the most ugly one of the strippers that we know of: Rose.

It would also be a major trollmove by DPC if Ellie is one of the other VIP Roses

Wait, hold up! You’re calling Rose ugly, but you’re a Madame Rose fan/simp? ok, just checking! Go about your day.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Well, of course the game is for the player... What I mean though is that it's all very well for us to know things, but unless the MC knows them, they won't be able to progress the overall story. If it's important, it will almost certainly have to involve MC bringing the two parts together, otherwise there needs to be some way for the information to become at least a little bit public, so the two can overlap (basically so Jill can learn of it). It's possible, of course that Jill will never find out, but since the information is in the game, I'd like to think she would have to find out somehow.

I suppose another way for the overlap to happen would be for Quinn's revenge to be successful, the police take down Buddy and his operation, and Quinn tells her story - it would be out of character for her to do so, but maybe Buddy's arrest would change things in that respect, and make her open up to a support group, or at least a Jill-path MC (unlikely). Jill could hear details through that of how Rox died, and compare it to what she knows of Lana's death, putting the pieces together from there. I don't know if closure is the right word, but finding out who was behind it and learning that they are being served justice might have some small healing effect for Jill and her family.

We see that if MC is not on LI's path, some storylines work without him/with less involvement. Bella replaces MC at Lana's grave, Quinn's drug storyline bypasses him altogether, and he doesn't even know what really happened to Riona. So not everything has to exist with his involvement. Let's see how DPC plays this out.
I don't know how Quinn's plan will work, usually her plans are about profit "here and now", causing a fallout later.

too bad it works the same way for everything MC should know... and by now he's lost the motivation to even ask questions...



it's fine that MC doesn't know that Buddy killed Rox, if he's not romantically linked to Quinn, he basically doesn't care, and the same goes for Lana/Jill, Buddy is already a threat, no further “universal” motivation is needed.

Our guy sucks in intelligence.
Right now the only thing that connects MC with Quinn's threads is his fight with Vinny and the potential problems this guy can cause for DIKs

 

[KАRАMBA]

and quinn... she cares with her dad, but it doesnt looks like she did anything to find out why was poisoned the drug... she just accept it...

Cmon, that idea never even crossed her mind.
And that's okay.
Because overdosing is a common occurrence among drug addicts.
This rarely arouses suspicion in anyone.
For her, the picture of what happened has long been formed, and she will only begin to suspect something when she learns the story of Lana's death.