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Yeah but still, why would Quinn go to Bella's for Sage when they're already gone to the hospital, or stay there on her own if they were still there but went to the hospital?

That would imo only be the case if there is something connecting Quinn to Bella in that room, and I think most of us are pretty to almost completely sure (there is always a 0.1% chance in soap operas for twists like this) that isn't the case.
First of all, Quinn showing up there doesnt need to have a connection with the room at all.

During the game the group of friends we now have was just building up... Sage hated Jill (for no reason) before episode 9. Now they are besties. Jill and maya got closer too (Jill is already somewhat friends with Josy). Bella and MC are kinda the connection between them all. Quinn knows surely about that "bond" between those seven... (namely Derek, MC, Bella, Sage, Jill and J&M) And its shown that she is over her head with everything. Its not entirely certain, but it looks like she was burning down bridges, calling cops on vinny and buddy... and so on, Burke breathing up her neck too. Its safe to say, she needs people and help. Its not really shown in the game, but Sage mentioned earlier in the game that she sees Quinn as a trusworthy friend, and maybe thats true and Quinn does see her as a friend too not just a tool. Its clear as day that quinn doesnt see all people just as tools. What happend to Rio crossed a line for her too. Very much so.

Overall its not that far fetched to say... she is desperate at this point and needs some reliable people she can call out for help. The group around Sage and MC could be just that for her. I mean... who could she possible ask for help other than Sage and her friends? Nobody. She is out of options.

So all that in consideration... its not that unlikely that Quinn might show up at Bellas. Sage could have mentioned before that she will got for christmas dinner to Bella and so Quinn knows about that... And out of desperation heading over there to seek for help. And this move could be canon no matter the path.

But to be honest, iam totally tired of the guessing game about Bellas locked room and James... cause every theory was already discussed and not a single one makes 100% sense. There are too many flaws in every regard and i cant see a way how DPC will solve this thing so it will be 100% plausible.

Other than that, i believe its patrick that shows up there. But whatever, i am done with discussing theories about that part... its just tiresome at some point cause there is just nothing new to it, because we are discussing those theories since episode 9.
 
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Sorry to interrupt, but since I've just came up to the end of C7 in my Sage run, I was wondering about the significance of those two pics of Karen Rebecca. Has Doc Cake ever explained or are there theories?

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Chillout1984

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Sorry to interrupt, but since I've just came up to the end of C7 in my Sage run, I was wondering about the significance of those two pics of Karen Rebecca. Has Doc Cake ever explained or are there theories?

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Both the song playing (Maybe Someday, also one of my favorites) and the narration by MC during this ending are about having difficulty being true/being ashamed about yourself. KRJ often hides that she has a hearing aid, for which she seems to be ashamed.
 

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So all that in consideration... its not that unlikely that Quinn might show up at Bellas. Sage could have mentioned before that she will got for christmas dinner to Bella and so Quinn knows about that... And out of desperation heading over there to seek for help. And this move could be canon no matter the path.
That doesn't seem likely. Same with Zoey; they're both Others. Zoey comes in and blows up everything. No one would include her, and Quinn is the one of the main paths on Others, regardless of her relationship with Sage. Meaning the MC deliberately rejected all MP/MGs to go on with Others, which is the opposite for all MP/MGs. Maya definitely doesn't like Quinn, Josy not so much, and she would not get along with Jill and Bella at all.

Everyone's together for many reasons in the Family, and Maya's story was a big part of that.

Sage would definitely have something to say if she finds out about the restaurant, the HOTs, and her father's involvement with it. That would be a gigantic scandal, which I'm assuming is being held for the Episode 12, or during Season 3.

Quinn would need some serious redemption and apologies to join the weird Girls Family of the MGs. I could see a Jill path working that way, if you decide to follow Jill in her strive to help get others off drugs, including Tommy and Quinn. Some speculated on Quinn dying unless you can be more influential to her on that path, but that would be a dark and sad ending for the main antagonist, essentially punishing players. We're all still pissed about Riona, and can't do anything about her for another 2 years. With only getting some extra exposition with Quinn if on her path this time.

But to be honest, iam totally tired of the guessing game about Bellas locked room and James... cause every theory was already discussed and not a single one makes 100% sense. There are too many flaws in every regard and i cant see a way how DPC will solve this thing so it will be 100% plausible.
It'll be another big, silly cliffhanger of nothing, similar to the library Bella used to work at. Just something traumatic to her, like a wedding dress she just left hanging up in storage.
 

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Quinn would need some serious redemption and apologies to join the weird Girls Family of the MGs. I could see a Jill path working that way, if you decide to follow Jill in her strive to help get others off drugs, including Tommy and Quinn. Some speculated on Quinn dying unless you can be more influential to her on that path, but that would be a dark and sad ending for the main antagonist, essentially punishing players. We're all still pissed about Riona, and can't do anything about her for another 2 years. With only getting some extra exposition with Quinn if on her path this time.
I wouldn't really call her the main antagonist. There are at least 5 people more worthy of that title in this game: Stephen, Magnar, Vinny, Tybalt and Dawe. Maybe even Buddy if his role becomes bigger in episode 12.
 

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I wouldn't really call her the main antagonist. There are at least 5 people more worthy of that title in this game: Stephen, Magnar, Vinny, Tybalt and Dawe. Maybe even Buddy if his role becomes bigger in episode 12.
It depends on framing. I see AVNs as romances, or harlequins, and see any kind of option in those stories as hero-prot vs. target/female-ant, and she is the most antagonistic of them all, not being a MG/MP, even though we tend to say she's the most deserving of being a MG, and not just a "bad girl". Whereas Tybalt is an antagonist with Jill, he's also generally antagonistic in some plots. Same with Chad. Quinn is certainly like that at the start, though continues to doing not-so-good things, contrary to a few parts of the story (like Jill, in fact, those two are near opposites). Now that the DIK path is largely seen as wrong after all this relationship development, or at least only for Others, Quinn being it's greatest example, would put her to be antagonistic now within the games scoring system. But that is more at fault of DPC and what he's done with DIK/Chick points than her within the narrative.

Villains, or antagonists, can still have redemption or reversals, but that doesn't change their role.
 
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Dawe a main antagonist..yeah right.. :LOL::LOL:
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He is ever since he took the president role over from Chad :p

He's behind the destruction of the manor and probably also what bad will happen with the DIKs around New Years :p

You don't have to be a serious threat to be the main antagonist :p He's just way more worthy of the title than Quinn, who is simple a pawn and tool who thinks she can be a leader.
 
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He is ever since he took the president role over from Chad :p

He's behind the destruction of the manor and probably also what bad will happen with the DIKs around New Years :p

You don't have to be a serious threat to be the main antagonist :p He's just way more worthy of the title than Quinn, who is simple a pawn and tool who thinks she can be a leader.
Again, within context of a romance, any target in the "man pursues woman" scenario are antagonists.

An antagonist is any person who actively opposes or is hostile to someone or something; an adversary, to the protagonist. Quinn and Lily (even Riona) are antagonistic to MC's romance. This is mostly a romance story. They, and many of the Others are sexual, but they're against the concept of romance.

Other antagonists/adversaries in the story are in the chapter's plot (whatever the MC wants to do then), or the overall plot of the MC (e.g. MC vs. Tybalt), are against the MC.
 
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