VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

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MC: You don't understand (She understands just fine you just don't care)
Sage: No, you're the one who doesn't understand. (Exactly)

Leaving everything else aside because it's been hashed out a plenty by now... Sage absolutely doesn't understand what she is talking about.

For a very simple reason: Sage apparently doesn't have even a single close friend who was her actual friend for more than a couple of years, nevermind one she'd have spent half of her childhood/teenage years with. She is unable to put herself into Fuckface's shoes here because she utterly lacks the needed frame of reference.

So she really doesn't understand what Zoey is to MC and how he feels about her. Because she doesn't know first thing about this sort of relationship.

 

[FalconLover420]

"Well this doesn't say anything about hanging out with en ex fwb while gf is not at your place."

"Well this is about an ex or friend who used to fuck and taught him how to fuck while the gf is at home in his hometown but hey sage is the issue here"

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Should I Tell Derek about Cathy Swyper's account?
or will Cathy find out later and blackmail me?

Have you learned nothing from telling him about Jade

 

[ffive]

"Well this is about an ex or friend who used to fuck and taught him how to fuck while the gf is at home in his hometown but hey sage is the issue here"

I mean it literally is Sage who is making the issue out of this.

 

[FalconLover420]

I mean it literally is Sage who is making the issue out of this.

And Jill as well but she keeps it in and doesnt appreciate MC doing that.
So you have two girls that have an issue with this and if bella or J/M were in this situation, they would have the same issue

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Since this discussion is still going on, I find it curious one's deviant score (the TC points) is completely unrelated to returning to Zoey or not. There's only one affiliated with her, and it's very minor, so what's up with that? A mechanic dedicated solely to cheating/unfaithful behavior, but the option to return is predicated solely on your zscore, a totally separate thing.

Maybe Zoey will be the only girl we can actually leave someone for, everyone else is relegated to mere affairs/flings?

 

[Monty10]

Have you learned nothing from telling him about Jade

Right, He's a big mouth bastard

 

[ffive]

Since this discussion is still going on, I find it curious one's deviant score (the TC points) is completely unrelated to returning to Zoey or not. There's only one affiliated with her, and it's very minor, so what's up with that? A mechanic dedicated solely to cheating/unfaithful behavior, but the option to return is predicated solely on your zscore, a totally separate thing.

Maybe Zoey will be the only girl we can actually leave someone for, everyone else is relegated to mere affairs/flings?

I suppose there wouldn't be much point in adding to MC's "cheat score" for deciding to return to Zoey, or using it as basis to return to her, because that decision is, overall, not "cheating" really -- he decides to break up and start a new relationship.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Have you learned nothing from telling him about Jade

 

[NadaMucho]

Leaving everything else aside because it's been hashed out a plenty by now... Sage absolutely doesn't understand what she is talking about.

For a very simple reason: Sage apparently doesn't have even a single close friend who was her actual friend for more than a couple of years, nevermind one she'd have spent half of her childhood/teenage years with. She is unable to put herself into Fuckface's shoes here because she utterly lacks the needed frame of reference.

So she really doesn't understand what Zoey is to MC and how he feels about her. Because she doesn't know first thing about this sort of relationship.

First, MC met Zoey in detention in high school and he's now a freshman in college. Plus she was gone to San Diego for more than a minute. However that doesn't really matter because you don't go see your ex when you're with someone else. Doing so sends a clear message that the "friend" (even though they were more than friends) is more important than the girlfriend/wife/whatever.

So, she understands just fine. He's going to see his ex, that he had sex with, that he said was his first love, when it seriously bothers her. It doesn't matter if they were friends, it doesn't matter if they won the big game together and it doesn't matter what other excuse he can come up with to make it ok. It's not ok. It's rude, disrespectful, hurtful and selfish. If you wanna do whatever you want and ignore your partners feelings then don't be in a relationship.

TLDR
Partner's feelings > Rekindling relationship with ex

It's a simple formula

 

[NewTricks]

MC should just assume that Sage is gonna be pissed off at everything he does. She even screams at weather reports like my Dad used to scream at the Seattle Seahawks when Dave Krieg fumbled.

 

[NadaMucho]

MC should just assume that Sage is gonna be pissed off at everything he does. She even screams at weather reports like my Dad used to scream at the Seattle Seahawks when Dave Krieg fumbled.

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Laugh isn't that also the scene where the MC is giving her shit for being too messy eating her breakfast?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I suppose there wouldn't be much point in adding to MC's "cheat score" for deciding to return to Zoey, or using it as basis to return to her, because that decision is, overall, not "cheating" really -- he decides to break up and start a new relationship.

But this also happens to be the update that DPC finally explains it in the walkthrough, you'd think it would make some sense for it to come into play regarding leaving the girl you chose in Crossroads.

MC should just assume that Sage is gonna be pissed off at everything he does. She even screams at weather reports like my Dad used to scream at the Seattle Seahawks when Dave Krieg fumbled.

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I'm still upset Neil didn't bring it up

 

[Zda13]

Zoey sucks.

Leaving Sage to go hang with Zoey for whatever reason when you're on Sage's path is idiotic.

 

[joebob77474]

I wouldn't really call her the main antagonist. There are at least 5 people more worthy of that title in this game: Stephen, Magnar, Vinny, Tybalt and Dawe. Maybe even Buddy if his role becomes bigger in episode 12.

Wait why is Stephen a main antagonist? I get he's flawed and all but he hasn't struck me as truly malicious.

 

[joebob77474]

Zoey sucks.

Leaving Sage to go hang with Zoey for whatever reason when you're on Sage's path is idiotic.

CORRECT!

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Wait why is Stephen a main antagonist? I get he's flawed and all but he hasn't struck me as truly malicious.

Because he looks and acts like one

 

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However that doesn't really matter because you don't go see your ex when you're with someone else. Doing so sends a clear message that the "friend" (even though they were more than friends) is more important than the girlfriend/wife/whatever.

I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Let's not forget that Fuckface is going to visit Zoey after his girlfriend fucks off to gods know where. Going with your own logic, whatever Sage was going to do was "more important than her boyfriend".

Of course, trying to infer this sort of "the thing she chose to do is more important to her than me" is complete idiocy, except it is exactly what Sage is doing. She is getting pissed off that MC is going to do his own thing, in his spare time, after she decided to do her own thing rather than spend her time with him.

Partner's feelings > Rekindling relationship with ex

Yeah, but neglecting your partner and how he might feel about it because you have more important things to do, well that is clearly fine and not even worth consideration.

(to make it even funnier, Sage does it again later in the episode, where she decides she'd rather hang around with her new friends than her boyfriend who maybe could use some support at the party he organized. As do all other main girls for this matter)

 

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But this also happens to be the update that DPC finally explains it in the walkthrough, you'd think it would make some sense for it to come into play regarding leaving the girl you chose in Crossroads.

Well, it does come into play for some of the other girls, by dictating whether you can declare love for them and advance your relationship. In this manner it indirectly affects the Zoey thing too, potentially blocking you from returning to her. I think that's quite sufficient, and there's no reason to blatantly try and tie every single decision from now on to that score, including the situations where it doesn't necessarily fit.

 

[Vill3m]

Leaving Sage to go hang with Zoey for whatever reason when you're on Sage's path is idiotic.

MC wasn't leaving anyone. It was Jill/Sage who decided to ditch the MC to paint nails with her newfound girlfriend. This gave him the perfect chance to check on Zoey while he was still home. His only mistake was not alleviating his insecure GF's fears well enough. I'd honestly be pissed off if my partner couldn't suddenly trust me when I've never given any reason for it. In Sage's case, no matter if she claims it's Zoey she doesn't trust, it's actually the MC she has issues with. In reality she doesn't trust her BF to say 'no' should it come to the worst of it where Zoey tries to get him back.