VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

If it's the same person, there must be some other objective, otherwise why share it only with Stephen? He kept it in his back pocket until now. Maybe after he resigns, then the video gets leaked by the mystery party: once again the DIKs have ruined the reputation and career of another teacher, and even tore apart a prominent family. And of course, extra damage on Sage's path.

I am not so convinced that the culprit is the same.
the only thing they have in common is that they probably came through Rusty's laptop.

but the methods and effects were completely different. with Cathy there's someone who actively took the photo only to have Rusty take the blame afterwards, a rather reckless and risky action.

whereas with Jade's video it's a much more judicious operation, getting the video shot (or commissioned) to whoever would gain the most from it. and Burke hardly has any interest in the footage becoming public: it's one thing to threaten to use it, it's another to actually do it, he'd lose out too.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

I am not so convinced that the culprit is the same.
the only thing they have in common is that they probably came through Rusty's laptop.

but the methods and effects were completely different. with Cathy there's someone who actively took the photo only to have Rusty take the blame afterwards, a rather reckless and risky action.

whereas with Jade's video it's a much more judicious operation, getting the video shot (or commissioned) to whoever would gain the most from it. and Burke hardly has any interest in the footage becoming public: it's one thing to threaten to use it, it's another to actually do it, he'd lose out too.

If the Cathy Cluck and Jade video are truly unrelated incidents, then that's quite a coincidence. It's like if someone is robbing your house, and at the same time someone else is breaking into your car. Plus fucking Jade AND sharing the video are not canon events, so another party being behind the leak/Stephen having access to the DIKs' files would still need to be explained on other paths. If it's all connected, it's easier to explain.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Time to replay the Interlude... I don't hate Zoey, but I certainly don't love her. Or at least I don't care about her as much as DPC was probably hoping. The whole story probably could have been condensed some more, a lot more. Ah well.

DPC was smart enough to open it with a pretty good lewd...

... but then was stupid enough to have it set against the wrong kind of song. Anyway, San Diego here I come!

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

A new thought occurs to me that having access to the laptop might not be necessary. The video is on MC's phone. His old phone to be precise. Stephen only gets the video if the DIKs see it, but it may simply be that the culprit only knows to look for it because of that. So where is MC's old phone?

 

[Better Cock Spock]

A new thought occurs to me that having access to the laptop might not be necessary. The video is on MC's phone. His old phone to be precise. Stephen only gets the video if the DIKs see it, but it may simply be that the culprit only knows to look for it because of that. So where is MC's old phone?

On his desk.

 

[homejorz]

DPK really needs to hire people. There's no reason development needs to take this long with the amount of success this game has

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

On his desk.

Right. I thought it might be, but wasn't sure. I'd call it easily accessible for anyone who knows about the video. Much easier than the laptop that is kept in the safe after the Cathy cluck.

 

[Molmer]

A new thought occurs to me that having access to the laptop might not be necessary. The video is on MC's phone. His old phone to be precise. Stephen only gets the video if the DIKs see it, but it may simply be that the culprit only knows to look for it because of that. So where is MC's old phone?

It's obvious that Stephen got it from the laptop.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If the Cathy Cluck and Jade video are truly unrelated incidents, then that's quite a coincidence. It's like if someone is robbing your house, and at the same time someone else is breaking into your car. Plus fucking Jade AND sharing the video are not canon events, so another party being behind the leak/Stephen having access to the DIKs' files would still need to be explained on other paths. If it's all connected, it's easier to explain.

yes and no

if you suffer two thefts to say that the thief is the same seems to me quite a gamble...

those are 2 actions that have very little in common apart from Rusty's laptop (and for Jade it's not 100% certain) as a method and intentions. so instead of explaining who else did it you should explain why

I see it as equally complicated to explain why Cathy's photo is published without a second thought, while Jade's much more striking video is instead kept hidden or even ‘donated’ to Burke

is Burke the culprit? then you have to explain to me why he wanted to ruin Cathy too
was it Nick/Vinnie? then you need to explain to me their connection to Burke.

the only profile that fits both of them is the Nerds, but there you have to invent a whole new story, putting a whole new pawn on the chessboard.

I'm not saying it's not possible that there's only one culprit, just that it's not such an obvious deduction, even taking into account DPC's habit of deliberately inserting false clues

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

DPK really needs to hire people. There's no reason development needs to take this long with the amount of success this game has

Writer's block is a very good and very common reason. No amount of staff can speed things up if he doesn't have instructions for them.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

DPK really needs to hire people. There's no reason development needs to take this long with the amount of success this game has

All that success is exactly why he won't hire more people. Feeds his ego more, he's in total control of the project, and of course gets all the money to himself.

Right. I thought it might be, but wasn't sure. I'd call it easily accessible for anyone who knows about the video. Much easier than the laptop that is kept in the safe after the Cathy cluck.

I don't think the original video is still on the old phone. But that's just an assumption, I hope MC isn't that much of a fucking moron to leave something like that un-deleted. I'd also hope the phone has some sort of protection, otherwise yeah anyone could waltz in and gain access to it, which is extra stupid after what happened with Cathy.

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

It's obvious that Stephen got it from the laptop.

Which is much harder to access.

 

[ChipLecsap]

DPK really needs to hire people. There's no reason development needs to take this long with the amount of success this game has

I agree, DPK definitely need to hire some people.
DPC on the other hand is perfectly fine on his own

 

[Molmer]

Which is much harder to access.

There's someone who's spying on the DIKs, it's literally part of the main plot of the game, logically it's this person who also leaked the video to Stephen.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

yes and no

if you suffer two thefts to say that the thief is the same seems to me quite a gamble...

those are 2 actions that have very little in common apart from Rusty's laptop (and for Jade it's not 100% certain) as a method and intentions. so instead of explaining who else did it you should explain why

I see it as equally complicated to explain why Cathy's photo is published without a second thought, while Jade's much more striking video is instead kept hidden or even ‘donated’ to Burke

is Burke the culprit? then you have to explain to me why he wanted to ruin Cathy too
was it Nick/Vinnie? then you need to explain to me their connection to Burke.

the only profile that fits both of them is the Nerds, but there you have to invent a whole new story, putting a whole new pawn on the chessboard.

I'm not saying it's not possible that there's only one culprit, just that it's not such an obvious deduction, even taking into account DPC's habit of deliberately inserting false clues

But like you said, another person with a grudge against the DIKs (not that there's a shortage) needs to have a reason to be on the chessboard. If it is a separate entity who so far has only given Stephen the video, what are they doing on paths where you didn't fuck Jade or share the video?

 

[Roger-a-Dale]

All that success is exactly why he won't hire more people. Feeds his ego more, he's in total control of the project, and of course gets all the money to himself.

I don't think the original video is still on the old phone. But that's just an assumption, I hope MC isn't that much of a fucking moron to leave something like that un-deleted. I'd also hope the phone has some sort of protection, otherwise yeah anyone could waltz in and gain access to it, which is extra stupid after what happened with Cathy.

Now Spock I'm all for giving MC the benefit of the doubt for not seeing the Sage is a Burke thing coming, but can we really assume he is smart/paranoid enough to delete everything on his old phone?

There's someone who's spying on the DIKs, it's literally part of the main plot of the game, logically it's this person who also leaked the video to Stephen.

Yes there is obviously a spy, but at the moment the laptop is kept in a safe and only three people know the new combination: Rusty, Tommy and MC. The phone is a much easier target.

 

[felicemastronzo]

But like you said, another person with a grudge against the DIKs (not that there's a shortage) needs to have a reason to be on the chessboard. If it is a separate entity who so far has only given Stephen the video, what are they doing on paths where you didn't fuck Jade or share the video?

it's not that it's a problem. these different opposing parties already exist (the Jocks, Burke, Quinn, Priscilla, Vinnie, the girls in the dorm etc).

if Jade's video exists they take the opportunity and use it, if it doesn't exist they continue with what they were doing.

like Burke: it's not that without the video he's on the street begging, it's simply that with the video he divorces Jade keeping more money, without it he divorces the same...

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Now Spock I'm all for giving MC the benefit of the doubt for not seeing the Sage is a Burke thing coming, but can we really assume he is smart/paranoid enough to delete everything on his old phone?

Since his new phone was a gift and not a straight replacement, I'd say he merely turned off the old phone, with no regard for "information hygiene." But it should still require a PIN or password or something upon turning back on (again I hope, maybe the smartphone is too old for that?).

it's not that it's a problem. these different opposing parties already exist (the Jocks, Burke, Quinn, Priscilla, Vinnie, the girls in the dorm etc).

if Jade's video exists they take the opportunity and use it, if it doesn't exist they continue with what they were doing.

like Burke: it's not that without the video he's on the street begging, it's simply that with the video he divorces Jade keeping more money, without it he divorces the same...

Maybe everyone has teamed up to oppose the DIKs. B&R's own Sinister Six, or Secret Society, or another nerd term for villain groups

 

[felicemastronzo]

Now Spock I'm all for giving MC the benefit of the doubt for not seeing the Sage is a Burke thing coming, but can we really assume he is smart/paranoid enough to delete everything on his old phone?

Since his new phone was a gift and not a straight replacement, I'd say he merely turned off the old phone, with no regard for "information hygiene." But it should still require a PIN or password or something upon turning back on (again I hope, maybe the smartphone is too old for that?).

according to DPC's modus operandi, it is much more likely to have something to do with Jam Jam's ‘lost’ phone

 

[Better Cock Spock]

according to DPC's modus operandi, it is much more likely to have something to do with Jam Jam's ‘lost’ phone

Most definitely, but Roger isn't wrong in saying that MC's old phone is a potential source for the Jade video. Although he'd have to be even dumber than he already is if anyone can access it.