VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[The Krogan Dude]

Yeah, that is the biggest problem with Sage that hasn't really been explained yet. Honestly I think the whole "Quinn is a pimp" part of the story is kinda bad in hindsight and should've been done differently, because it just goes too far. Why would any of the girls even go with that in the first place and how would they keep that from Sage? It makes very little sense and actually kinda ruins Quinn's character and makes Sage's otherwise very interesting character questionable as well.

The prostitution ring was needed for the tuition storyline which supports Maya's whole arc in the first 6 episodes. For which other reasons the sorority sisters would get it "freely" ? A case of nepotism involving Sage using her father's contact would have made her look bad. As for the prostitution itself, it's a cheap way to get early sex scenes, and student prostitution is more frequent than people are wiling to admit. It's not out of the place for a college based game.

It's tied to Burke because he's the logical character with the power position and the ressource. As for Quinn, while her main story is ultimately tied to the drugs storyline, she was meant to be a shaddy character since the beginning and Maya needed an opposition for the early story. Adding another madame among the HOTs in addition to Quinn & Riona being drug dealers would have been too much. Of course, DPC could have handdled Sage's lack of obviousness better. The prostitution ring is only working because the girls have submissive personnalities and are ok with it ( and because smarter character like Lily just don't give a fuck ).

 

[4Zero9Zero]

Is that really a thing on this site?

Nah just become a habit to react to stuff

 

[Takkatakka]

The pimp stuff is probably a deal she had going on with Stephen. I don't know the full extent of that deal, but we will find out eventually when we find about that Priscilla bitch.

I doubt that, since she also offers them to others. That would be a disaster for Stephen if he actually would be behind that because it would come out far too easily. And what leverage does Quinn even have. The girls would learn very quickly that Sage doesn't know about it and wouldn't condone it and then Quinn would be done for.

Again: It is just a bad plot point that actually does more harm than good to the story and the whole Mona plot could've been done differently (or cut completely) and very little to nothing would've been lost while it would've enhanced the believability of the story to begin with.

Take Quinn for example: With this plot point, she is just not redeemable anymore. She coerced young women to have sex for money and then taking the money from them. There is just no ambiguity about that. It is just evil and bad. Without that plot point, she would've been a bit of an asshole and would deal light drugs. While that isn't good, it would make her a lot more ambiguous as a character who can still return and do good, without having a permanent mark on her.

And Sage also looks bad in this. Her "daughters" get pimped out under her nose from someone she - for no apparent reason - trusts and thinks is a perfectly fine successor to herself, even though Quinn belies that assessment at every turn and openly so.

 

[Riaman]

That's loser behavior dude. I planned myself properly and now the fishes are all upgraded and I have free extra income of money from them, they are basically self sustainable by selling the babies and also give me some money.

I gotta agree with that, Fish are easy money plus extra bank in case you exceed 10 bucks.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Episode 11: Lily path
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Through the game i mostly looked at Lily as hot blonde hookup girl with great (by BaDIK standards) sex scenes, like easy going college girl for fun, nothing more. She was and the end of my general top-10 list, on a par with Nicole.
That rolling theme with the king and queen in Ep.10 was a turn down for me, middle school level stuff that has no place in college. It was childish. But the heart-to-heart talk on the dock at the BBQ party eased my doubts a bit - I suspected that Lily was just playing to the crowd and wasn't who she really was.
Episode 11 shows a different side of Lily and lifted her up in my eyes because "rolling" thing really was all fake. Lily is a multi-dimensional character and her development is similar to Sage's. To see the story at its best, you have to choose "I hope this turns into something more" during the argument with Sage - if MC shows feelings for Lily, their dynamic becomes much more interesting.
Lily tells us her story. She is MC's female reflection in many ways. Childhood problems: bullying, ugly looks, problems in the family - does it remind you of anyone? In one of their stories diverged - for MC, his father was his support and role model, Lily became a rebel because she was tired of over-control and how they tried to make her into something she didn't want. She wanted to become independent, live her own life and forget that ugly girl with braces that she was, worked on her looks and eventually got into Pink Rose. Lily created a shield for herself of a bad girl who doesn't give a shit, because no matter what you do, the world will be against you.
Moment when she confesses this to MC was a very sensual revelation, which opened Lily up to me again as a full-fledged LI.




As I suspected, a lot of Lily was fake. Her slutty stripper image turned out to be a shield that many BaDIK characters have and as the story progresses, they show their true colors. Another parallel between Lily and MC is how enterprising and proactive she is, she quickly becomes important person in HOTs as MC in DIKs and also does party planning (though it's strange that Sage doesn't like Lily).
Lewd with Lily is a masterpiece, broken into two separate scenes - rough/sensual, and the second one shows that Lily has strong feelings for MC, which she didn't want to show and the whole rolling game falls apart. The chemistry between them is incredible. A small quarrel where MC splits her game, turning into passionate but sensual sex and Lily, who is afraid to give in to feelings and demands "HARDER!"


Exceeded all expectations. For me, Lily leaves Nicole and her trailer far behind. Another 10/10 branch you didn't expected.

 

[hakuna-matata]

I have no idea why people hate the fish so badly. It's free $2-5 multiple times per episode with just a few clicks. Way simpler and faster than the other stupid puzzles or the brawler.

When you have over 20 saves, the fish is absolutely annoying. I have ignored the fish and it won't die.

 

[The Krogan Dude]

Even Vinny doesn't have a bad relationship with the MC (MGs route and didn't punch him). We can say that they just started things off on the wrong foot.

In all cases, he trashed his room, called him a dog and pull a gun under his nose even if the Mc tries to defuse the situation. It's more than starting thing on the wrong foot, the guy is a dick to you no matter what you do.

 

[Takkatakka]

The prostitution ring was needed for the tuition storyline which supports Maya's whole arc in the first 6 episodes.

It just isn't. It is an open story, DPC could've just written slightly differently. Quinn could've been Maya's antagonist without that part and the free tuition could've been just a rumor, Quinn deliberately exploited to toy with people. None of that need the prostitution.

 

[Kodek]

I gotta agree with that, Fish are easy money plus extra bank in case you exceed 10 bucks.

Agreed on first half, but hell nah. I'm never leaving a single cent inside that thing after Nick stole me.

 

[Bazsa4]

i said Rio is the best. she will understand if Cindy pegging you. Rio wont be angry.

They can share me, along with Bianca.

 

[BigTTiger]

There is no best path but the dik-all-the-time path is probably the worst.


You'd be surprised how often (in fact more often than not) bullied people become bullies themselves later in life.

hurt people hurt people

 

[Riaman]

Agreed on first half, but hell nah. I'm never leaving a single cent inside that thing after Nick stole me.

just before Baileys visit invest into chemicals. It was shock only on the first run I did after update. Though learnt how to play triple tiles because of that.

 

[Takkatakka]

I have no idea why people hate the fish so badly. It's free $2-5 multiple times per episode with just a few clicks. Way simpler and faster than the other stupid puzzles or the brawler.

I have not a single save in which they worked out for me. I clean the damn thing, I feed them and all they do is getting sick or dying until I give up.

 

[saynotoNTR]

MC does actually, if you're on Quinn's path. She tells him that she sells drugs. And since Vinny also goes to the same place and MC literally sees him there, even a dumb as bricks MC could put two and two together.

MC may only know about the drugs in Quinn's route, but what about the other routes? When DPC adds something to the plot, we need to look at it from the most extreme possible perspective. If the MC has no connection with Quinn, Lily or Riona and has never punched Vinny then Vinny and MC don't even have a hate relationship, like I said just a failed first interaction.

It could also of course be that Quinn asks Tommy for help or just simply contacts him with what she's been up to and Tommy in turn asks MC for help to save her ass.

Unlikely, MC may not have any relationship with Quinn. If Tommy is in danger, it could happen.

In all cases, he trashed his room, called him a dog and pull a gun under his nose even if the Mc tries to defuse the situation. It's more than starting thing on the wrong foot, the guy is a dick to you no matter what you do.

Vinny was an asshole, no doubt about it. But if MC didn't make things worse, I don't see any reason for Vinny to hold a grudge against MC.

 

[Bazsa4]

I have not a single save in which they worked out for me. I clean the damn thing, I feed them and all they do is getting sick or dying until I give up.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Not really. Even without the restaurant we would still have the tuition plotline since Maya still needs money to be able to study. If it wasn't the restaurant, he would've thought of some other ridiculous way for Maya to get the money instead.

Anything but finding a job

 

[Riaman]

It just isn't. It is an open story, DPC could've just written slightly differently. Quinn could've been Maya's antagonist without that part and the free tuition could've been just a rumor, Quinn deliberately exploited to toy with people. None of that need the prostitution.

Well that was the first fafo moment for Quinn, after knowing a prude and less sexually experienced girl like Maya isn't suitable for prostitution ring she kept messing with her just fun, it was ingenuity of Josy and Arieth being Arieth that Quinn failed to get video proofs of those activities.

 

[Chillout1984]

They can share me, along with Bianca.

If you do that, you will almost certainly lose Cindy but gain Rio and Bianca...

Unlikely, MC may not have any relationship with Quinn. If Tommy is in danger, it could happen.

Not really. Tommy probably gained respect from MC thanks to backing him up during the Nick situation among other things. MC also gained respect from Tommy a lot especially in season 3. MC will be happy to help Tommy even if he doesn't really care about Quinn.

 

[TuckeredOut]

 

[Kodek]

I doubt that, since she also offers them to others. That would be a disaster for Stephen if he actually would be behind that because it would come out far too easily. And what leverage does Quinn even have. The girls would learn very quickly that Sage doesn't know about it and wouldn't condone it and then Quinn would be done for.

Again: It is just a bad plot point that actually does more harm than good to the story and the whole Mona plot could've been done differently (or cut completely) and very little to nothing would've been lost while it would've enhanced the believability of the story to begin with.

Take Quinn for example: With this plot point, she is just not redeemable anymore. She coerced young women to have sex for money and then taking the money from them. There is just no ambiguity about that. It is just evil and bad. Without that plot point, she would've been a bit of an asshole and would deal light drugs. While that isn't good, it would make her a lot more ambiguous as a character who can still return and do good, without having a permanent mark on her.

And Sage also looks bad in this. Her "daughters" get pimped out under her nose from someone she - for no apparent reason - trusts and thinks is a perfectly fine successor to herself, even though Quinn belies that assessment at every turn and openly so.

Quinn was never made to be redeemable dude. She was always made to as obscure, shady and nasty as possible. She was made to be polirizing to the extreme, you would like her and look through her bullshit or you would hate her for what she does to both herself and others.
The extreme of this is the latest chapter heart to heart MC had with Quinn in her path and how she described her relationship with Riona.

This is why she is the only main character that can die in the plot. DPC created her for such and every little piece of writing he did on her cohaborated to this, he even made her path be difficult to reach since he made the two first LIs be a road block to her path. And if you are not on Quinn's path, she will die. That's my take.