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It's two things for the love option:
1. You can't have sex with Jade
2. You can't have too many cheat points/TC. It's quite easy to get TC especially at the panty party, but you can easily avoid most of them if you only do the mandatory objectives.
UGH TC points. I don't use the console. is there a walkthrough guide to where TC points are added? How far back did TC points start?
 

Chillout1984

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No, I'm looking too. Mona comes out of the bedroom with the outer doors to her left. Cami comes out of the bar and not the same room, otherwise the outer door would be behind Mona in that picture. If it was the same room, those doors would also be on Cami's left as she chased after Mona, but instead we have the hallway there.
Hmm You're right, I really thought it was the corner of the hallway that was behind Camilla, but it indeed is the hallway itself.
 

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UGH TC points. I don't use the console. is there a walkthrough guide to where TC points are added? How far back did TC points start?
The TC points start during Halloween party in episode 9. It's best to use URM to avoid them, neither the official nor unofficial guide mentions them.
 

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Sages was great

I am expecting an extremely romantic setup for Jill's L bomb

as for Bella, that's one I am looking forward to the most to see how it's done, I could see something like he tells her he loves her and she doesn't know how to react in that moment, only later in the episode does she realize it then returns it
She is after all the oldest and maturest out of the bunch

Or we could just get this after telling her

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I think Jill L bomb will be in episode 12 even though it will be a Bella focused episode.
 

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True, Bella and Jill have good potential.
I think you're overly dismissive of Josy's crisis of identity, but you introduce a very interesting point in saying "Maybe she should get the mentality of Lily and get on with herself."
Because it comes out of nowhere. I thought she was joining a dating site, and starting a blog, and moving on. But the Maya issue is also resolved poorly, since your previous choices didn't amount to much. Maya at least gets a resolution (i.e. makes money to have her own loan, has a talk with her dad). If you didn't get the contract last episode, then there's a +5/-5 Maya/Josy or Josy/Maya choice, implying that someone here is going to dislike the MC in some way. (And getting the contract should be a +5/+5 to both, or something similar.) Which could work as a throuple conflict, which is what we expect. But instead of DPC doing that, even if Josy is favoured, she still goes wah. If you went the throuple and date route with Josy, and the 2nd date of "I love you", she still goes wah.

It's silly because most young adults are trying to figure themselves out anyway in post-sec school, but not to the point of emotional or identity confusion. Or at least not someone with a supposedly healthy personality like Josy, who's willing to have BDSM throuple sex, or who should already be mature enough to accept liking two people at once, encouraging Maya to get a tongue ring, has a blog, gives fashion advice, etc. But now, for some reason, she's confused about her life, and thus: can admit she still has a crush, but can't admit she loves Maya because...wah?

Without doing a proper score check in Episode 11 for an actual "change" or whatever, we don't know what a "Polygamous Shiftie" is to Josy. No buildup of the longest standing -- and probalby the most mature -- girl who, aside from still pining for MC, seemed totally cool until now, even joining a dating site? (Or whatever that profile thing was last episode or so?) No matter what you do, Josy has problems out of nowhere. When previously, we thought it was because we weren't on her path/throuple path, and she's still has a crush (which she admits to. Who knew having a crush makes you question your path in life? Oh wait it doesn't.)

She's now just another Zoey, whose character arc we've already seen completed.

I did read your linked comment on Bella vs Nora and agree with most of it, I just personally don't find their proportions, tit/waist/ass ratios, to be very attractive. It's a caricature of the feminine form.
To each their own, but that's the physical basis for the comparison. Nora appears to be the healthier character, which is an interesting characteristic for the Others path when looking at a CHICK Bella MC.

But yeah, Josy could just become another Lily, hopefully not another Zoey, and hopefully not some yandere. Or worse, DPC just forgets any of this nonsense happened because his weird fans think fabricated melodrama makes her "deep".

Now, it would be hilarious as all the Other path girls start professing their love to the MC, and he's gotta turn them all down. Unless...

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It's two things for the love option:
1. You can't have sex with Jade
2. You can't have too many cheat points/TC. It's quite easy to get TC especially at the panty party, but you can easily avoid most of them if you only do the mandatory objectives.
So the cheat points for Sage don't come into play till the panty party?
 
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Just got a scene with Riona at the thanksgiving barbecue where she has yellow eyes and a tail after I ate the mushroom, never seen that before, or never noticed at least. What other altered scenes are there when taking mushrooms?
MC gets abducted by the anal probe squad and there's also dinosaurs
 

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Because it comes out of nowhere. I thought she was joining a dating site, and starting a blog, and moving on. But the Maya issue is also resolved poorly, since your previous choices didn't amount to much. Maya at least gets a resolution (i.e. makes money to have her own loan, has a talk with her dad). If you didn't get the contract last episode, then there's a +5/-5 Maya/Josy or Josy/Maya choice, implying that someone here is going to dislike the MC in some way. (And getting the contract should be a +5/+5 to both, or something similar.) Which could work as a throuple conflict, which is what we expect. But instead of DPC doing that, even if Josy is favoured, she still goes wah. If you went the throuple and date route with Josy, and the 2nd date of "I love you", she still goes wah.

It's silly because most young adults are trying to figure themselves out anyway in post-sec school, but not to the point of emotional or identity confusion. Or at least not someone with a supposedly healthy personality like Josy, who's willing to have BDSM throuple sex, or who should already be mature enough to accept liking two people at once, encouraging Maya to get a tongue ring, has a blog, gives fashion advice, etc. But now, for some reason, she's confused about her life, and thus: can admit she still has a crush, but can't admit she loves Maya because...wah?

Without doing a proper score check in Episode 11 for an actual "change" or whatever, we don't know what a "Polygamous Shiftie" is to Josy. No buildup of the longest standing -- and probalby the most mature -- girl who, aside from still pining for MC, seemed totally cool until now, even joining a dating site? (Or whatever that profile thing was last episode or so?) No matter what you do, Josy has problems out of nowhere. When previously, we thought it was because we weren't on her path/throuple path, and she's still has a crush (which she admits to. Who knew having a crush makes you question your path in life? Oh wait it doesn't.)

She's now just another Zoey, whose character arc we've already seen completed.

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For me, DPC's biggest mistake is that he didn't write development arc and personality for Josy from the very beginning. She was just an addition to Maya and her problems, a kind of DLC for a polyamorous experiment. Now, if Maya's problems are solved with a good outcome, then what's next?
DPC is trying to quickly write something for her, come up with a hobby and a new drama: identity crisis Josy "I don't know who I am", "I don't know if I love Maya", "I'm unhappy". Some cheap fast-written drama. It looks boring in comparison with a bunch of other LIs with their complex personalities and tragic backstories, Josy looks lost here among this variety of wonderful characters.
Even if we compare two dates - Josy and Maya on Throuple route, which starting to branch on auto: Maya's is a huge W.
And comparing her with Zoey, they are completely different characters. Zoey story is about unspoken words that were needed in time and an attempt to return to the past, but unlike Josy, she is interesting, cool, talented, bright against the background of other LIs. This is a girl with you want to take a beer and have a heart-to-heart talk about life, easy vibing with her.
 

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For me, DPC's biggest mistake is that he didn't write development arc and personality for Josy from the very beginning. She was just an addition to Maya and her problems, a kind of DLC for a polyamorous experiment. Now, if Maya's problems are solved with a good outcome, then what's next?
DPC is trying to quickly write something for her, come up with a hobby and a new drama: identity crisis Josy "I don't know who I am", "I don't know if I love Maya", "I'm unhappy". Some cheap fast-written drama. It looks boring in comparison with a bunch of other LIs with their complex personalities and tragic backstories, Josy looks lost here among this variety of wonderful characters.
Even if we compare two dates - Josy and Maya on Throuple route, which starting to branch on auto: Maya's is a huge W.
And comparing her with Zoey, they are completely different characters. Zoey story is about unspoken words that were needed in time and an attempt to return to the past, but unlike Josy, she is interesting, cool, talented, bright against the background of other LIs. This is a girl with you want to take a beer and have a heart-to-heart talk about life, easy vibing with her.
Josy should have just stayed the easy-going girl-next-door from the beginning, a tremolo/josy relationship doesnt even need big drama to move forward at this point anymore

But she turned into so much of a nothing burger, additionally got suddenly insecure and shallow and starts the worst hobby possible, ugh
 
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Because it comes out of nowhere. I thought she was joining a dating site, and starting a blog, and moving on. But the Maya issue is also resolved poorly, since your previous choices didn't amount to much. Maya at least gets a resolution (i.e. makes money to have her own loan, has a talk with her dad). If you didn't get the contract last episode, then there's a +5/-5 Maya/Josy or Josy/Maya choice, implying that someone here is going to dislike the MC in some way. (And getting the contract should be a +5/+5 to both, or something similar.) Which could work as a throuple conflict, which is what we expect. But instead of DPC doing that, even if Josy is favoured, she still goes wah. If you went the throuple and date route with Josy, and the 2nd date of "I love you", she still goes wah.

It's silly because most young adults are trying to figure themselves out anyway in post-sec school, but not to the point of emotional or identity confusion. Or at least not someone with a supposedly healthy personality like Josy, who's willing to have BDSM throuple sex, or who should already be mature enough to accept liking two people at once, encouraging Maya to get a tongue ring, has a blog, gives fashion advice, etc. But now, for some reason, she's confused about her life, and thus: can admit she still has a crush, but can't admit she loves Maya because...wah?

Without doing a proper score check in Episode 11 for an actual "change" or whatever, we don't know what a "Polygamous Shiftie" is to Josy. No buildup of the longest standing -- and probalby the most mature -- girl who, aside from still pining for MC, seemed totally cool until now, even joining a dating site? (Or whatever that profile thing was last episode or so?) No matter what you do, Josy has problems out of nowhere. When previously, we thought it was because we weren't on her path/throuple path, and she's still has a crush (which she admits to. Who knew having a crush makes you question your path in life? Oh wait it doesn't.)
What's your definition of mature? Because Josy never seemed the most mature to me. She encouraged "destruction of property" lol drawing on Steve's employee of the month pic. Then she wanted to move away from it all because B&R was taking too long to accept her from the waitlist...sure she's tried to be supportive of Maya but that alone doesn't prove her being the most mature. Unless you're saying most mature compared to Maya? I mean, it's not mature to just go along with whatever the MC decides in terms of the possible throuple relationship because she was afraid of being alone.

The profile thing was Josy's Rooster account since there was a rooster on her screen. I know she cheats on Maya with the MC early on but why would you think she joined a dating site when no matter what she's still technically in a relationship with at least Maya?

For me, DPC's biggest mistake is that he didn't write development arc and personality for Josy from the very beginning. She was just an addition to Maya and her problems, a kind of DLC for a polyamorous experiment. Now, if Maya's problems are solved with a good outcome, then what's next?
DPC is trying to quickly write something for her, come up with a hobby and a new drama: identity crisis Josy "I don't know who I am", "I don't know if I love Maya", "I'm unhappy". Some cheap fast-written drama. It looks boring in comparison with a bunch of other LIs with their complex personalities and tragic backstories, Josy looks lost here among this variety of wonderful characters.
Even if we compare two dates - Josy and Maya on Throuple route, which starting to branch on auto: Maya's is a huge W.
And comparing her with Zoey, they are completely different characters. Zoey story is about unspoken words that were needed in time and an attempt to return to the past, but unlike Josy, she is interesting, cool, talented, bright against the background of other LIs. This is a girl with you want to take a beer and have a heart-to-heart talk about life, easy vibing with her.
Josy should have just stayed the easy-going girl-next-door from the beginning, a tremolo/josy relationship doesnt even need big drama to move forward at this point anymore

But she turned into so much of a nothing burger, additionally got suddenly insecure and shallow and starts the worst hobby possible, ugh
I'd argue that Josy came off as insecure early on (in her relationships, her future before she got accepted to B&R, and her height insecurity). But yeah DPC didn't really develop her enough so now it feels like her crisis storyline came out of nowhere.
 
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