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MC can tell Derek he's a better friend than her.
MC can tell Jacob it's okay to hit on her.
MC can reject Zoey, sometimes without player choice, depending on whether you forgave her and other variables.
MC tells the narrative he's over Zoey after he rejects her.
The first 2 are variables that contribute to either having the choice to reject Zoey or auto-reject Zoey. None of those variables are canon. MC's confession at the BBQ, subsequent double down at her mother's house, Sage's conversation with Jill & Zoey's confession are canon.

Why would MC tell Sage about nonsensical drama she's not a part of? Who cares what other girls think? She knows he organizes and attends parties where semi-naked girls are (i.e. panty party), where he dresses up to attract attention (i.e. Gladiator) and drunk, horny girls are staring at him. Does he have to talk about all of the girls hitting on him to her? When was this, and why? She knows he's popular, and she trusts him (i.e. the phone call about Zoey). The whole school knows about him and the MC's MC, and yet Sage trusts the MC.
I'm not the one advocating for telling Sage unnecessary information. My thoughts is to wait to deal with the fallout from Zoey when/if it becomes a problem. Being premature in discussing this with Sage is only going to cause more harm.

After rejecting her, MC sends Zoey a text stating he still wants to be friends with her. That happens regardless of how you reject her. How is he going to still be friends with her if he's told Sage that Zoey confessed love for him? Sage is more likely to put an ultimatum on Tremolo that involves his relationship with Zoey.
 

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The first 2 are variables that contribute to either having the choice to reject Zoey or auto-reject Zoey. None of those variables are canon. MC's confession at the BBQ, subsequent double down at her mother's house, Sage's conversation with Jill & Zoey's confession are canon.



I'm not the one advocating for telling Sage unnecessary information. My thoughts is to wait to deal with the fallout from Zoey when/if it becomes a problem. Being premature in discussing this with Sage is only going to cause more harm.

After rejecting her, MC sends Zoey a text stating he still wants to be friends with her. That happens regardless of how you reject her. How is he going to still be friends with her if he's told Sage that Zoey confessed love for him? Sage is more likely to put an ultimatum on Tremolo that involves his relationship with Zoey.
Yeah, but knowing Sage she would prefer to know sooner rather than later. If MC tells it immediately, he would still have a choice for choosing either Zoey as a friend or Sage as a girlfriend. We can be pretty sure that the longer it takes for MC to tell Sage, or heaven forbid she will find out on her own, she will breakup with MC without him having a say in it.
 
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Yeah, but knowing Sage she would prefer to know sooner rather than later. If MC tells it immediately, he would still have a choice for choosing either Zoey as a friend or Sage as a girlfriend. We can be pretty sure that the longer it takes for MC to tell Sage, or heaven forbid she will find out on her own, she will breakup with MC without him having a say in it.
How would Sage find out on her own? Either Zoey or Tremolo would have to tell her. And why would either want to do that if they still want to be friends with each other?
 

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Yeah, but knowing Sage she would prefer to know sooner rather than later. If MC tells it immediately, he would still have a choice for choosing either Zoey as a friend or Sage as a girlfriend. We can be pretty sure that the longer it takes for MC to tell Sage, or heaven forbid she will find out on her own, she will breakup with MC without him having a say in it.
I can just see it now

MC forgets his phone, Sage says no worries bro i'll get it for you
the second she picks it up Zoey texts with the most damning text you ever did see :KEK:
 

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Knowing BaDIK not telling Sage about Zoey's confession will probably come back to haunt him :KEK:
Hahaha. Possibly. His conscience exists sometimes. With Jade it exists. With Heather it exists. He didn't tell anyone Rio kissed him & told him she hopes his relationship fails. He also doesn't tell Bella he kissed Jill if I remember that correctly.
 

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I can just see it now

MC forgets his phone, Sage says no worries bro i'll get it for you
the second she picks it up Zoey texts with the most damning text you ever did see :KEK:
Especially fucked if MC also still has the video with Jade on his phone :KEK:

How would Sage find out on her own? Either Zoey or Tremolo would have to tell her. And why would either want to do that if they still want to be friends with each other?
Like 4Zero9Zero says, Sage could find his phone if Zoey has messaged about it, she decides to eavesdrop on MC's conversation with Zoey like she did when Maya was having the interview with Stephen or she just simply hears them talking about it by accident. And these are just 3 examples. There are quite a few ways for her to find out on her own.
 

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Like 4Zero9Zero says, Sage could find his phone if Zoey has messaged about it, she decides to eavesdrop on MC's conversation with Zoey like she did when Maya was having the interview with Stephen or she just simply hears them talking about it by accident. And these are just 3 examples. There are quite a few ways for her to find out on her own.
So basically Sage is playing the jealous girlfriend spying on Tremolo. That's a relationship I would choose over a friend/ex-girlfriend I've known for years. Kinda contradicts what she told Jill in this hypothetical scenario.

What would the text or conversation even be. "Remember when you confessed your love for me at the Panty Christmas Party? Fun times."
 

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If Burke knows as well there's another disaster waiting to happen

the fallout coming on certain runs is colossal :Kappa:
I don't believe it's stated anywhere in the dialogue, but I'm of the belief that if MC decides not to show the DIKs, he will delete the video from his phone. So I think that it's either that both will find out or neither.

Future episode(s) will show if that is indeed the case, or if MC still keeps the video on his phone even if he doesn't show the DIKs.

So basically Sage is playing the jealous girlfriend spying on Tremolo. That's a relationship I would choose over a friend/ex-girlfriend I've known for years. Kinda contradicts what she told Jill in this hypothetical scenario.

What would the text or conversation even be. "Remember when you confessed your love for me at the Panty Christmas Party? Fun times."
Not jealous, just suspicious. She has a history with her ex cheating on her, and she already has her doubts about Zoey. So it's only logical (at least in the beginning) she won't trust it if MC and Zoey are talking on their own.
 

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Not jealous, just suspicious. She has a history with her ex cheating on her, and she already has her doubts about Zoey. So it's only logical (at least in the beginning) she won't trust it if MC and Zoey are talking on their own.
This was cleared up during the makeup conversation over the phone. Some of the details are choice specific. But they had an understanding on the relationship that Tremolo has with Zoey.

So in this hypothetical scenario, she lied to him about how she felt. And I still don't know how a conversation or text between Zoey & Tremolo would go where Sage would overhear them talking about this situation.

The text he sent that references the confession also decides he still wants to be friends with her. And if Sage sees that, I doubt she'll be overly thrilled with him still wanting to be friends with her after the confession while in a relationship with her.
 

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This was cleared up during the makeup conversation over the phone. Some of the details are choice specific. But they had an understanding on the relationship that Tremolo has with Zoey.

So in this hypothetical scenario, she lied to him about how she felt. And I still don't know how a conversation or text between Zoey & Tremolo would go where Sage would overhear them talking about this situation.

The text he sent that references the confession also decides he still wants to be friends with her. And if Sage sees that, I doubt she'll be overly thrilled with him still wanting to be friends with her after the confession while in a relationship with her.
Yes they have an understanding, but that doesn't mean Sage won't be suspicious about it. She just came out of a relationship she was cheated on. Those suspicious feelings aren't just gone after one conversation, no matter how much you want it.
 
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The first 2 are variables that contribute to either having the choice to reject Zoey or auto-reject Zoey. None of those variables are canon. MC's confession at the BBQ, subsequent double down at her mother's house, Sage's conversation with Jill & Zoey's confession are canon.
Yes, and there are many more within the context to allow for auto-reject, meaning the player has choice in determining the level of rejection, and thus attitude toward Zoey. You can be friendly toward her rejection to the point of choosing it yourself, or not even care to the point of the system rejecting her. Either way, she gets rejected in this line of thinking.

This has nothing to do with Sage, or any other Path you're on (obviously save Zoey's), nor should it. Nor is it some personal conversation to have with anyone after the fact. It is a non-issue. She is not a factor in his Main Girl/Main Path, outside of being a potential mistress in Sage's threesomes, which seems highly unlikely.

I'm not the one advocating for telling Sage unnecessary information. My thoughts is to wait to deal with the fallout from Zoey when/if it becomes a problem. Being premature in discussing this with Sage is only going to cause more harm.
There is no problem, outside of Zoey becoming a Josy, and whatever further nonsense is coming up with that.

After rejecting her, MC sends Zoey a text stating he still wants to be friends with her. That happens regardless of how you reject her. How is he going to still be friends with her if he's told Sage that Zoey confessed love for him? Sage is more likely to put an ultimatum on Tremolo that involves his relationship with Zoey.
Gee, the same way he's been friends with her ever since she came back? The same way he described her to Sage when he said he was going to hang out with her? The way the tomboy has been described as "just one of the guys", as she always has?

Sage has no authority with MC's platonic relationships. She either trusts him (which she said she does), or she doesn't. Since she does, this is a non-factor. The only thing affecting this would be whatever DPC intended to do with accruing Cheating Points, which would be player choice. The MC will continue to be popular and have lots of friends, including Maya and Josy (who can also be ex-girlfriends of the MC.) He will continue to host parties, and flirt with girls, and have girls flirt back. This is normal and known to everyone. If Zoey is a MP/MG, even if not on her Path, there's a chance she could become part of the new Family that Sage wants. But who knows what Rejected Zoey does in the narrative anymore. She may just get Monafied.

Like so many other threads started, DPC could just forget about them.

MC telling someone that he rejected Zoey is irrelevant. "I didn't do something." Wow, great talk MC. Now go get Best Girl something she actually wants: another threesome.
 
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Sage has no authority with MC's platonic relationships. She either trusts him (which she said she does), or she doesn't. Since she does, this is a non-factor. The only thing affecting this would be whatever DPC intended to do with accruing Cheating Points, which would be player choice. The MC will continue to be popular and have lots of friends, including Maya and Josy (who can also be ex-girlfriends of the MC.) If Zoey is a MP/MG, there's a chance she could become part of the new Family that Sage wants. But who knows what Rejected Zoey does in the narrative anymore. She may just get Monafied.
She says that she does trust MC but does not trust Zoey. That might become a problem in the future if MC doesn't come clean about the confession soon.
 

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Yes they have an understanding, but that doesn't mean Sage won't be suspicious about it. She just came out of a relationship she was cheated on. Those suspicious feelings aren't just gone after one conversation, no matter how much you want it.
I don't disagree with you. Sage has trust issues now because of her situation with Chad. Tremolo wants to still be friends with Zoey after rejecting her. I see no scenario that exists by telling Sage about Zoey's confession.

All he's going to get, besides I'm assuming a clear conscience is an ultimatum. Sage's trust issues with Zoey are not going to go away because he told her what she said. If anything it will cause her to distrust Zoey more. And in her mind, with Zoey going to B&R, it's a matter of when instead of if. She had that train of thought before she knows Zoey is going to be attending B&R.
 

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I don't disagree with you. Sage has trust issues now because of her situation with Chad. Tremolo wants to still be friends with Zoey after rejecting her. I see no scenario that exists by telling Sage about Zoey's confession.

All he's going to get, besides I'm assuming a clear conscience is an ultimatum. Sage's trust issues with Zoey are not going to go away because he told her what she said. If anything it will cause her to distrust Zoey more. And in her mind, with Zoey going to B&R, it's a matter of when instead of if. She had that train of thought before she knows Zoey is going to be attending B&R.
True, but hopefully those trust issues will become less if Sage tries to become friends with Zoey, no matter how hard it is.
I also wonder how she will react about Josy if Sage finds out she (and possibly even MC if you choose to do so) still talks with MC that she has feelings for him and periodically talk about something among the lines of "I'm still thinking about you" or "what could have been" xD
 

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She says that she does trust MC but does not trust Zoey. That might become a problem in the future if MC doesn't come clean about the confession soon.
So Sage's problem is with Zoey, not the MC?
Well, the MC shut Zoey down.
Thus, the MC doesn't have to say anything. Because ZOEY IS IRRELEVANT in this scenario. There is no conflict. There WAS, but after the phone call, MC and Sage understand each other.

MC does not have to act like a blabbermouth, reporting to Sage like a gossiping old woman, over every single female interaction he has when they show him affection.
 
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So Sage's problem is with Zoey, not the MC?
Well, the MC shut Zoey down.
Thus, the MC doesn't have to say anything. Because ZOEY IS IRRELEVANT in this scenario. There is no conflict. There WAS, but after the phone call, MC and Sage understand each other.

MC does not have to act like a blabbermouth, reporting to Sage like a gossiping old woman, over every single female interaction he has when they show him affection.
I disagree. Zoey will become a larger part of MC's life again if she starts at B&R in the spring. Sage prefers honesty, that includes telling her that your old best friend that might become your best friend again has feelings for you. Holding that a secret, especially with Sage's short fuse when it comes to talking about personal issues, will almost certainly bite MC in the ass in the long run if Zoey keeps on staying in his life.
 
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