VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Blurpee69]

So for everyone's Bella paths, and with the hindsight that she bet on you coming over, did you? I'm tempted to not just to toy with her.

 

[dontehall2023]

True, but hopefully those trust issues will become less if Sage tries to become friends with Zoey, no matter how hard it is.
I also wonder how she will react about Josy if Sage finds out she (and possibly even MC if you choose to do so) still talks with MC that she has feelings for him and periodically talk about something among the lines of "I'm still thinking about you" or "what could have been" xD

Sticking to the only canon ex of Zoey & ignoring the fact that it's possible all of The Avengers are his exes. Can you imagine Sage attempting to be friends with Zoey if she learns Zoey still loves him?

Regarding Josy & the pillow fort. If DPC adds this variable for consequences, I can't imagine Sage being okay with both Tremolo & Josy still having feelings for each other. While simultaneously being a part of the Superfriends. I would suspect that revelation would dissolve the Scooby Gang.

 

[Chillout1984]

Sticking to the only canon ex of Zoey & ignoring the fact that it's possible all of The Avengers are his exes. Can you imagine Sage attempting to be friends with Zoey if she learns Zoey still loves him?

Regarding Josy & the pillow fort. If DPC adds this variable for consequences, I can't imagine Sage being okay with both Tremolo & Josy still having feelings for each other. While simultaneously being a part of the Superfriends. I would suspect that revelation would dissolve the Scooby Gang.

About Zoey: That will at most only happen if MC will give her Sage the ultimatum of trying to get along with Zoey or losing the relationship with MC. MC is probably too big of a pussy (except maybe on a DIK affinity) to do this however and he will almost certainly also not want to breakup his friendship with Zoey. The Sage route looks like it's going to become a massive soap opera drama scenario with little to no good results.

And about Josy: It's not just the pillow fort. You can have (almost) the same talk during Halloween and the Thanksgiving BBQ.

 

[grarg]

I disagree. Zoey will become a larger part of MC's life again if she starts at B&R in the spring. Sage prefers honesty, that includes telling her that your old best friend that might become your best friend again has feelings for you. Holding that a secret, especially with Sage's short fuse when it comes to talking about personal issues, will almost certainly bite MC in the ass in the long run if Zoey keeps on staying in his life.

MC does not need to report to his girlfriend on every interaction he has with every girl he comes across. That's insane.

Let's imagine from friends or whatever that Sage finds out about Zoey confessing to the MC.

...

Yeah, nothing happens.

Because she knows he has girls dripping over him multiple times a month when he plans a party, including girls she knows, that are into him (Josy, Maya, Camila, Riona, Mel, Sarah, possibly Quinn, the strippers, etc.) This is old news, not relevant, and has already been dealt with as a form of conflict.

Sure, DPC can bring it up and try to fabricate conflict "why didn't you tell me?!" And all this nonsense. But it won't amount to anything, unless he wants to make Sage look childish, petty and stupid.

 

[dontehall2023]

About Zoey: That will at most only happen if MC will give her Sage the ultimatum of trying to get along with Zoey or losing the relationship with MC. MC is probably too big of a pussy (except maybe on a DIK affinity) to do this however and he will almost certainly also not want to breakup his friendship with Zoey. The Sage route looks like it's going to become a massive soap opera drama scenario with little to no good results.

I've been in a situation where I had to give a girlfriend an ultimatum about a female friend. And they attempted to be friends. It worked for a time. But the jealousy never really went away & their "friendship" ended roughly.

That's not to say Sage & Zoey as friends would have a similar unceremoniously end. I also don't see Tremolo working with ultimatums. I would expect that more from Sage.

If I were to give advice to Tremolo, it would be to be patient if he wants to stay friends with Zoey while being in a relationship with Sage.

If his conscience is hurting him to tell Sage about the confession, I only hope DPC makes it a choice to either tell Sage or keep it a secret. Tremolo has a nasty habit of blurting out things without the proper context.

And about Josy: It's not just the pillow fort. You can have (almost) the same talk during Halloween and the Thanksgiving BBQ.

Everything stems from the Halloween talk & snowballs from there. I don't believe you can keep that group together if Sage finds out.

 

[Chillout1984]

If his conscience is hurting him to tell Sage about the confession, I only hope DPC makes it a choice to either tell Sage or keep it a secret. Tremolo has a nasty habit of blurting out things without the proper context.

Yeah, his conscience is a pretty big problem in season 3 and I've got a feeling it will only get worse.
And tremolo not only has a nasty habit of blurting out things without proper context, but also without giving us the choice *COUGH*Heather's BJ*COUGH*

 

[Darkwen]

My eyes! Aaaaagghh!

You see why, Spock. Jill is cute with hugs.
And love that one with Sage. She's a great friend.

And I found. Can count as a hug.
View attachment 4691171

All this hugging is giving me a cavity
but you all did it wrong, this is hugging:

Why thank you Josy but your the awesome one

There you have it hugging Alady style
Alady Alady Alady

 

[dontehall2023]

Yeah, his conscience is a pretty big problem in season 3 and I've got a feeling it will only get worse.
And tremolo not only has a nasty habit of blurting out things without proper context, but also without giving us the choice *COUGH*Heather's BJ*COUGH*

Aside from his inability to explain the throuple to his father properly causing him to go into a deep depression. Spilling the beans on the Heather BJ unprovoked was his worst decision in episode 11. He's most likely a DIK, let him keep his secrets. Screw Tommy. His focus was on Nick. Tremolo was in the clear.

 

[FalconLover420]

What if there is no canon and for some reason, there are parallel universes of being a dik where fuckface has done something and have different canons. Example you have a fuckface that is on canon bella path and another version of fuckface that is on canon bella path and messed around with jill

 

[Chillout1984]

Aside from his inability to explain the throuple to his father properly causing him to go into a deep depression. Spilling the beans on the Heather BJ unprovoked was his worst decision in episode 11. He's most likely a DIK, let him keep his secrets. Screw Tommy. His focus was on Nick. Tremolo was in the clear.

Yeah, but also the way he talked about Bella to his father. I've got a feeling it was more DPC's way to hide a possible connection between Neil and her in any way. I doubt in any other circumstance Tremolo would really think his dad would have that much of a problem with it outside of maybe the initial shock.

 

[treechild1]

I still think there is potential for the first part of chapter 12 to be a tv style medical drama. Derek in one part of the ER, the fallout of the drug bust gone bad with gurneys being wheeled in and crashcarts all around (cops and dealers both)… and Agnes with an ER emergency (maybe even death). This is where you find out who her son is and their connection to B&R. Depending on who got injured in the drug bust (and if MC gets sucked into that drama) you might end up having to prioritize one path over the other, Derek (who will be fine, but wants emotional support), Agnes in her last moments, or the Quinn/Vinny/Buddy/Tommy fallout. It’ll be a hell of a somber Christmas. Maybe they plan something even more special for New Years together to finally (hopefully) start the next year on a positive note. Like I said, call the chapter Resolutions and have them all share and bond even closer than before. IDK. I’m just musing here. Be thankful I’m not writing this shit!

 

[felianMDR]

Sure, DPC can bring it up and try to fabricate conflict "why didn't you tell me?!" And all this nonsense. But it won't amount to anything, unless he wants to make Sage look childish, petty and stupid.

I have feeling he already start doing this. When she talk with Jill about girlfriend can't back to friend status and like she trust MC but don't trust Zoey. look like buildup for some stupid bs

 

[Darkwen]

Loose lips sink ships.

But seriously, this is Sage.

MC: "Hey Sage. 4 girls wanted to jump me, and 2 confessed their love."
Sage: "That's more than last week. Anyone I know?"

She, along with random girls at the parties, know how much in demand the guy is, as per Becky's (and Tara's) conversation. (Although I seriously question her information gathering as the HOTs President, considering what goes on there.)

Telling her about Josy's feelings could matter, as she knows Josy and cares about her. That could turn Josy into a Side Girl. And work along with her blogging/potential OnlyFans path...

Oh dear. Forget I wrote anything.

not sure what you mean by side girl since Josy is a MG, it would seem ep12 is going to be a crossroads part2 so MC could stay on his path or get off of it and get on another in some form. Like throuple going solo or maybe also a path where it last, Sage option (I think you can kiss her even if not on path) Bella and Jill. So if Josy and Maya break up even on others path MC could jump on

 

[felicemastronzo]

About Zoey: That will at most only happen if MC will give her Sage the ultimatum of trying to get along with Zoey or losing the relationship with MC. MC is probably too big of a pussy (except maybe on a DIK affinity) to do this however and he will almost certainly also not want to breakup his friendship with Zoey. The Sage route looks like it's going to become a massive soap opera drama scenario with little to no good results.

And about Josy: It's not just the pillow fort. You can have (almost) the same talk during Halloween and the Thanksgiving BBQ.

let's not hide behind a finger: Sage is right and MC's excuse is worthless, if he believes it he is lying to himself.
a guy who wants to keep his friendship with an ‘ex’ doesn't go and ask her if she somehow reciprocated, that's lighting a fire, not putting it out. if Zoey had said yes (not hiding again before getting the advice of San Diego's worst counselor) how could he get out of it by saving their friendship?

i would have loved for them to go a more natural route, making Zoey MC's best friend again and then making the temptation to try again, , but they didn't go in any way in that direction.

it's not about Sage, all path are pure soap opera.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

All this hugging is giving me a cavity
but you all did it wrong, this is hugging:
View attachment 4692910
Why thank you Josy but your the awesome one
View attachment 4692911
There you have it hugging Alady style
Alady Alady Alady

2nd image is more pre-kiss than a hug.

 

[Tadpol]

I don't disagree with you. Sage has trust issues now because of her situation with Chad. Tremolo wants to still be friends with Zoey after rejecting her. I see no scenario that exists by telling Sage about Zoey's confession.

All he's going to get, besides I'm assuming a clear conscience is an ultimatum. Sage's trust issues with Zoey are not going to go away because he told her what she said. If anything it will cause her to distrust Zoey more. And in her mind, with Zoey going to B&R, it's a matter of when instead of if. She had that train of thought before she knows Zoey is going to be attending B&R.

The problem with Sage (and any other GF in this situation) is the unknown. She doesn't know whether Zoey will try to get back together with the MC or not, and even though she says she trusts him, deep down there's this fear that he might still have feelings for her. It's a bit irrational, but it's 100% human behavior that we all have.

Telling her what happened at the Panty Party is the best way to defuse the problem. Yes, Zoey is in love with the MC and wants to get back together, but he said no. End of the problem.

To say nothing, on the other hand, is to risk getting in trouble later. Zoey will stay away from the MC until she gets over the rejection, but may come back as a friend later. The GF won't understand what's going on : Zoey comes back, then disappears (rejection), then comes back; in the meantime, she'll always see her as the ex who might want her boyfriend. Disaster guaranteed.


Above all, I hope DPC doesn't make a drama out of it. Like the GF giving the MC an ultimatum not to see Zoey again.

 

[Darkwen]

2nd image is more pre-kiss than a hug.

still counts

 

[Chillout1984]

Above all, I hope DPC doesn't make a drama out of it. Like the GF giving the MC an ultimatum not to see Zoey again.

Imo this will only happen on Sage's route and maybe on Jill's route if she goes to Sage for followup advice after their nail parlor talk. They also seem to be the two MG's with the highest trust issues currently.

I've got a feeling the other LI's would care much less about Zoey's confession, if they even care at all.

 

[DarkLords00]

I don't disagree with you. Sage has trust issues now because of her situation with Chad. Tremolo wants to still be friends with Zoey after rejecting her. I see no scenario that exists by telling Sage about Zoey's confession.

All he's going to get, besides I'm assuming a clear conscience is an ultimatum. Sage's trust issues with Zoey are not going to go away because he told her what she said. If anything it will cause her to distrust Zoey more. And in her mind, with Zoey going to B&R, it's a matter of when instead of if. She had that train of thought before she knows Zoey is going to be attending B&R.

This makes no sense, they already talked about it in the phone call. MC can tell Sage to trust him and afterwards you can reject Zoe and even leave the stupid party and staying the night with Sage making a statement that he is choosing her relationship with her over his responsibilites at the party as well as the free "eye candy" from it.

Telling her about Zoey's confession won't help anyone other than give Sage vindication I'm sure she doesn't even want and it would be omega retarded for MC to spill something like that for no reason if he rejected Zoey and has already moved on from her. Also, MC personal relationships are of no consequence to Sage they haven been together for a few months at most.

IF, (and this is a big fucking IF) Sage started becoming controlling and giving ultimatums it's just going to torpedo her likability especially if the player has played an MC nothing but loyal to her. It would be like:

Sage: I forbid you of spending ANY amount of time with that bitch Zoey!
MC: You really are going to tell me with who I can and can't hag out with despite professing my love to you and when I've been nothing but loyal and caring for you? Maybe we should see other people if you don't trust me I can't be in this kind of relationship with you...

I disagree. Zoey will become a larger part of MC's life again if she starts at B&R in the spring. Sage prefers honesty, that includes telling her that your old best friend that might become your best friend again has feelings for you. Holding that a secret, especially with Sage's short fuse when it comes to talking about personal issues, will almost certainly bite MC in the ass in the long run if Zoey keeps on staying in his life.

That's just plain stupid. Zoey going to the same college doesn't mean she is going to be an either bigger or smaller part in MC life that she has been since she came back. With that logic, Chad and Troy and bigger parts of the MC life than his father merely because they also go to the same college and MC knows their most intimate secret xD

Wether Zoey would become a bigger part of MC life is completely up to how much time MC would want to spend with her if you have barely seen her/spend time with her MC auto rejects her so it's not like MC just couldn't choose to see her less often and that's that.

Sometimes I think you guys just want any type of drama (even if the most cheap kind in romance stories out there: Jealousy) .

I think you are falling in the same trap that DPC fell with Josy's character, why would give her an interesting conflict or interactions with her partners when you can just make her insecure? (Which again it's omega stupid for throuple players that only priortized Josy at the hangouts, got her date this episode, and then you hear her say "I don't feel like I matter much") . Instead of cheap shit like this, I would prefer or no drama at all OR the drama should be focused on the future development of their relationship.

- What are their plans long term?

- What about Sage leaving B&R way before MC? How far would she need to travel?

- What it's going to happen when the time will come for M&J to showcase their relationship to their parents?

- What about Isabella's past and (possible) future with MC? What about Jill relationship with her parents and their opinion on her choices and plans to be with MC long term?)

All of this stuff is waaay more interesting than just mere "I'm Jealous of Zoeyy don't see her no moreee!!! "

 

[Chillout1984]

That's just plain stupid. Zoey going to the same college doesn't mean she is going to be an either bigger or smaller part in MC life that she has been since she came back. With that logic, Chad and Troy and bigger parts of the MC life than his father merely because they also go to the same college and MC knows their most intimate secret xD

That comparison doesn't make any sense. It's made pretty clear that unless you're still angry with her, Tremolo wants to build up his friendship with Zoey again. That will be much easier if they're together at B&R.