Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.08.02] [Aleksey90]

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We did not manage to meet all the work in January. And the release of v0.06 will take place on February 9 or 10.
I think it's time to tell you about the possibilities of interacting with Eric, because many of you are probably afraid of how far he can go already in this update.
There are two initial pressures in a relationship with Eric. All of you are already very familiar with this from previous versions and each of you has already made your initial choice. This is friendship and enmity.
Starting with v0.06, the player can still change their choice and you will see how.
The most difficult option in terms of Eric's actions towards Max is enmity and its maintenance.
Eric uses the most effective methods of influencing Lisa and Alice, and will also react harshly to your attempts to arrange problems for him.
Max would have the least time to find a way to get rid of Eric before he left the villa himself.
Although for the time being, Max will have several chances to come to his senses and stop feuding with Eric, but this is at the discretion of the player.
Friendship with Eric is divided into two main components - a sincere friendship and a crafty friendship.
Sincere friendships are options for indulging Eric's plans for the girls in the villa.
And the more Max helps Eric with this, the more bonuses he will receive, such as unpunished peeping, being present at something forbidden, as well as special bonuses in relation to specific girls.
Unless, of course, he is too arrogant, otherwise Eric may wonder why he needs such a friend who does not know the measure and his place.
Crafty friendships are a way to avoid Eric's harsh measures to influence girls and balance between friendship and enmity. The most profitable option in terms of gaining time to find a way to get rid of Eric and implement it.
Or else collect dirt on Eric and use it for their own benefit, but this is quite dangerous.
All these paths, thanks to the choice of players, can intersect and thus generate not just some linear paths, but a dozen variants of paths, with their own consequences, penalties, special events and outcomes.
To implement this was very difficult, compared to what was in the game before. This may remain the most difficult moment to implement in this game, although Max will face other challenges in the future.
Now, basically, v0.06 is undergoing a lot of testing and refinement of a number of small points that were affected by interactions with Eric.
Thank you to everyone who supported the project during this long period between updates! During this time, there were not only problems with the development of the game, but also a number of personal problems that took a lot of time.
As if without this Covid, we all had little trouble! Take care of yourself and your loved ones. Well, I'm working on the game further...

I personally believe this branching will be a bug/logic flaw-fest. Why shoot for the stars and even make "dozens" of subbranches? So far each release had its fair share of bugs in the LINEAR story, why heat it up even further?
all it means you have a ten minute gameplay in your chosen path and the rest is lost on you. unless you read walkthrough and use multiple save games to at least see alternative content in your main story branch.

not my idea of great gaming experience but I will take what I get..

 

[nicenick]

I checked your save file

Lisa mode, like the rest of the characters, is very low

*Buy sweets for Lisa and give her. Help her wash the dishes .
* help Lisa do her homework. always do her homework yourself.Lisa asks you for a foot massage.( Use save / load ) (Lisa should show both her breasts when doing homework.If she does not do this, you did something wrong or you forgot something)
*After 3 successful foot massages, Lisa will talk to you about hand massage
*After the hand massage, there will be a talk about kissing lessons.
*Ask Ann and Alice about the kissing lesson (they reject you)
*In the morning, ask Kira about the kiss lesson
*join Kira at Lounge in the middle of the night
*Start kissing lessons with Kira and finish all three without asking Lisa.
*Then start teaching Lisa.
*Wake up every day after Lisa. (Do not use the "Sleep" button at the end of the day. Set the clock to 7 to wake up)
*Be careful of Lisa's mood(very good) and your relationship with her(warm).
*Do not let Lisa or Alice be punished when doing the "opportunity".( Use save / load )
*Be careful of Lisa's homework
*Use save / load during the kissing lesson to do it successfully.
*Do the kiss lesson successfully 9 times in a row.
*Now The book is available in the store.


Read the "Favorite Aunt" and "Christina" opportunities section as well as the "Events " tab from the Walkthrough below :

Walkthrough​

Thank you for your help

 

[alefrago77]

I personally believe this branching will be a bug/logic flaw-fest. Why shoot for the stars and even make "dozens" of subbranches? So far each release had its fair share of bugs in the LINEAR story, why heat it up even further?
all it means you have a ten minute gameplay in your chosen path and the rest is lost on you. unless you read walkthrough and use multiple save games to at least see alternative content in your main story branch.

not my idea of great gaming experience but I will take what I get..

you are right..bugs are a problem, maybe we will need more time than 9-10 of feb to really play...but this is not a problem we can see only you, me or more, iam sure Aleksey and the team can see the problem too and they try to solve it... was a good day for the game we had really interesting news at least for our sight...like this the game easily goes at the first 2-3 games ranking with wife and mother etc, i think, maybe iam wrong its ok..of course i agree with you with the live walkthrough, what friend SDaddy666 mentioned too, more or less i think and the interesting story branching of course...dont know for the live walkthrough if it will happen now, dont want to talk please for big or small content 5 or 10 minutes, things which will happen..we will see

 

[troll822]

Interesting branching. Now we'll have some replay possibilities. I just hope that the dev puts branching warnings when a choice has to be made (ex. this choice will lead you to enemity, continue ?) etc

Weeeeell... it's unattainable to move with all three in the future for the developer unless he is willing to have 4-6 month gaps between releases. It is indeed very interesting and I can understand the approach "I want the update to have content for everyone, instead of "Eric_path1 update, Eric_enmity out in 2 months!" but if he goes for that approach it will be a HUGE workload for one person.

Thus, the developer should sit and think if he wants a few "full" updates per year or several "path" updates per year. What also concerns me is that he plans further branching down the path. I mean... what? At some point, and that point is not far, this will become mighty impossible.

Example: Let's say the developer wants a massage quest-line. If Eric is around, things would be different. So, more work.
Now, if the developer wants a Kira-big-quest, things would be different for the massage quest line too. So more work.
But wait, what about Having Kira-big-quest AND ALSO Eric? That affects both of them too. So more work.


And it increases exponentially.

 

[HVS3]

Maybe, maybe not.

From Discord channel:

Abe Today at 1:38 AM
alexey your last update was in september. This update should have been in dec but shit happens. I am a fan of your work so will wait for the update. My question is regarding the content. Are u saying this update has enough content to cover from september to feb ?
...
aleksey90artimages Today at 7:06 AM
Abe No, the content in this update is about 2.5 months old. Because from all this period, you need to subtract the time for repairs and illness.

We wait , hope and we'll see.

i think i was miss understood bc what meant when i said i think big update based on # of preview, is that i started on .3 of game ( which was a good start to game) & i got both .4 & .5 both had little new content to each, but bc of previews i think .6 update will have more content in it than .4 or .5 did.

now different topic someone posted what i think is a talk about what direction the dev is going with the game. if i understand right it to me sounds like he is going to actually try to make this game to it full potiental & not just make the game to give it an ending. personally i think waiting little bit inbeteewn updates to have an update with both eric & max content is better than on one per update either way its going to take time to make the game.

over next couple updates we will see how this all works out

 

[always86]

So the new stuff sounds good to me. Truthly I like the sound of all 3 routes, (right up till Eric fucks Lisa then I’ll change my mind)

So I was wondering, if we think of act 1 as Eric. One way or another he is gone by Act 2. What do people want from Act two, who or what should act as the antagonist?

In the original I wasn’t a fan of the Alice becomes a Dom, and Max lets himself be pushed around path. I also thought the porn path was odd, not that some of the scenes weren’t hot but felt like jumping the shark a bit (Whole family starts shooting porn together).

One option for act two could either Max becomes dominant or Alice does, fighting for who the alpha is. Perhaps sex is harder to come by in the Max path, but he gets ‘used’ less?

Would Kira be a good adversary? Perhaps she wants the porn route and Max wants the home Harem one. Fight over which way the corruption goes?

Perhaps something existential. Like a huge debt that Max’s father had. Like $100k. The household has to meet the payments. The less of the burden Max take the more the girls have to do, be it modelling, camming, porn, or escorting. Desperation, makes them push harder, and become more depraved.

Another option would be Max’s dad showing up. We know he had a big swinging Dick, Kira fucked him. Might be a bit similar to Eric, but what if he wanted to fuck everyone?

I’m not a big fan of expanding casts out massively. Game has 5 great characters already, (Ann, Kira, Alice, Lisa, Kate) Once you start broadening out it means no one gets the screen time they deserve.

 

[armion82]

So the new stuff sounds good to me. Truthly I like the sound of all 3 routes, (right up till Eric fucks Lisa then I’ll change my mind)

So I was wondering, if we think of act 1 as Eric. One way or another he is gone by Act 2. What do people want from Act two, who or what should act as the antagonist?

In the original I wasn’t a fan of the Alice becomes a Dom, and Max lets himself be pushed around path. I also thought the porn path was odd, not that some of the scenes weren’t hot but felt like jumping the shark a bit (Whole family starts shooting porn together).

One option for act two could either Max becomes dominant or Alice does, fighting for who the alpha is. Perhaps sex is harder to come by in the Max path, but he gets ‘used’ less?

Would Kira be a good adversary? Perhaps she wants the porn route and Max wants the home Harem one. Fight over which way the corruption goes?

Perhaps something existential. Like a huge debt that Max’s father had. Like $100k. The household has to meet the payments. The less of the burden Max take the more the girls have to do, be it modelling, camming, porn, or escorting. Desperation, makes them push harder, and become more depraved.

Another option would be Max’s dad showing up. We know he had a big swinging Dick, Kira fucked him. Might be a bit similar to Eric, but what if he wanted to fuck everyone?

I’m not a big fan of expanding casts out massively. Game has 5 great characters already, (Ann, Kira, Alice, Lisa, Kate) Once you start broadening out it means no one gets the screen time they deserve.

It sounds like there will be 4 routes.
1.No Eric
2.War with Eric
3.Real friend with Eric
4.Pretend to be a friend with Eric

 

[Priappus]

It sounds like there will be 4 routes.
1.No Eric
2.War with Eric
3.Real friend with Eric
4.Pretend to be a friend with Eric

5.have sex with Eric

 

[Curio81]

I think No Eric is not a path, it's culmination of the 3 other paths, or at least of two of the three paths

 

[WhiteFireDaemon]

5.have sex with Eric

The only question is who gets to be the top?

 

[Deleted member 522652]

there seems to be the assumption that Eric will be gone eventually, even on the friendship path(s).
Is this a fact coming from the dev himself or just a rumor? does he really intend to carry over dozens of branches each and every update? or will he close the Eric chapter in every case and move back a linear story after that?

 

[always86]

It sounds like there will be 4 routes.
1.No Eric
2.War with Eric
3.Real friend with Eric
4.Pretend to be a friend with Eric

there seems to be the assumption that Eric will be gone eventually, even on the friendship path(s).
Is this a fact coming from the dev himself or just a rumor? does he really intend to carry over dozens of branches each and every update? or will he close the Eric chapter in every case and move back a linear story after that?

I think it has been said in the past that the ‘no Eric’ content will make getting the girls harder, and initially would be less developed. My assumption is that act one is Eric and then from there on it will be something different. (might continue what the original did or be totally changed).

Aleksy seems to love the game and characters so presume he will keep playing with them until he feels the right story is completed. I think like many he didn’t like the way the post Eric content played out. We’ll see. He‘s been going for about a year now, hopefully he can get more supporters and more consistency

 

[SDaddy666]

I personally believe this branching will be a bug/logic flaw-fest. Why shoot for the stars and even make "dozens" of subbranches? So far each release had its fair share of bugs in the LINEAR story, why heat it up even further?
all it means you have a ten minute gameplay in your chosen path and the rest is lost on you. unless you read walkthrough and use multiple save games to at least see alternative content in your main story branch.

not my idea of great gaming experience but I will take what I get..

well we've seen what a linear path was doing with bugs. This will indeed be even worse. I personally will wait until enough patches are out.
What bums me with this game and its predecessor is that you never know if you didn't grind enough or if there's abug somewhere and that's nerve wracking.

 

[SDaddy666]

Weeeeell... it's unattainable to move with all three in the future for the developer unless he is willing to have 4-6 month gaps between releases. It is indeed very interesting and I can understand the approach "I want the update to have content for everyone, instead of "Eric_path1 update, Eric_enmity out in 2 months!" but if he goes for that approach it will be a HUGE workload for one person.

Thus, the developer should sit and think if he wants a few "full" updates per year or several "path" updates per year. What also concerns me is that he plans further branching down the path. I mean... what? At some point, and that point is not far, this will become mighty impossible.

Example: Let's say the developer wants a massage quest-line. If Eric is around, things would be different. So, more work.
Now, if the developer wants a Kira-big-quest, things would be different for the massage quest line too. So more work.
But wait, what about Having Kira-big-quest AND ALSO Eric? That affects both of them too. So more work.


And it increases exponentially.

Hopefully he'll get more subscribers and can hire a good coder and more staff to program more frequent and steady updates, but seeiong how other projects are turning, i wouldn't count on it.

 

[armion82]

I think it has been said in the past that the ‘no Eric’ content will make getting the girls harder, and initially would be less developed. My assumption is that act one is Eric and then from there on it will be something different. (might continue what the original did or be totally changed).

Aleksy seems to love the game and characters so presume he will keep playing with them until he feels the right story is completed. I think like many he didn’t like the way the post Eric content played out. We’ll see. He‘s been going for about a year now, hopefully he can get more supporters and more consistency

Sooner or later all routes will go to the route without Eric.Or will reach the end of the game for that route.

there seems to be the assumption that Eric will be gone eventually, even on the friendship path(s).
Is this a fact coming from the dev himself or just a rumor? does he really intend to carry over dozens of branches each and every update? or will he close the Eric chapter in every case and move back a linear story after that?

I think if he is not gone on truth friend path,the game will just reach the end.Way before other routes.

 

[xslayermkdx]

The update was supposed to be released in January what happened?

 

[Ntr Ntr]

The update was supposed to be released in January what happened?

He just need another week to sort out bugs before release. Because there are multiple paths it's taking longer. Looking forward to the update hopefully worth the wait.

 

[Curio81]

I think his intention is to branch the story into multiple paths, that will merge later on, so that different decissions bring a variety to the story without inflating the game disproportionately

 

[fruitpunchflavored]

5.have sex with Eric

Mere words alone would not be able to describe how elated I would be if this ever becomes an option...

 

[Shiva0067]

The time has come for ANOTHER long post. This time we will deal with the number of paths, how I feel they would be best dealt with, and the NEED for Chocolate Chip Cookies.

At this point we have been informed that when dealing with (EVIL Scum) Eric there will be 3 primary paths. These would be the Friendship path where we work WITH the monster, a quick war with him being removed but we will NOT get some content (now and in the future), and the long WAR with more content. This seems to be both right AND wrong. After all, at the start of the 2 war paths they will probably be the same, only branching when (EVIL Scum) Eric is first removed. Now for the Spoilers to save some space.

Spoiler: The Paths

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I think that at some point (EVIL Scum) Eric WILL be gone no matter the path chosen (War or Friendship). If he remains I would expect that later events (whatever they might be) would become so different that the result would be 2 (or more) games being developed at the same time.

Now for the MOST important part of this post. We NEED Chocolate Chip Cookies!!! Aleksey90 PLEASE add Chocolate Chip Cookies. I know that MANY Devs are AFRAID, but I have faith that YOU have the COURAGE to add Chocolate Chip Cookies to this game.

Just a thought.

P.S. The above are just some of my thoughts, I do NOT know if any of this will be part of the game (but I have HOPE).