VN Ren'Py Blurring the Walls [v0.5.31 v2] [Torimiata]

[Athres]

Not all support is financial and I really appreciate all the genuine feedback that has been shared with me. The good and the bad.

What's the point on giving you any feedback, if you never listen to it. I already try in last year, but it give zero results. You will stick to "you vision" no matter what, or drop the project.

 

[Adamska]

What's the point on giving you any feedback, if you never listen to it. I already try in last year, but it give zero results. You will stick to "you vision" no matter what, or drop the project.

That's our role as fans though, isn't it? Speak honestly and hope some of the stuff we want is picked up over time. I do feel that Tori incorporates the suggestions they think will improve the envisioned plot. They also don't overly restrict forum posts and engage with readers here, which is a really positive sign that they're reading and considering all feedback.

In my opinion, the value of modern VN devs/creators is being exactly that "vision" filter you mentioned (even if every change won't jive with every reader). Otherwise we wind up with 100% AI-generated Patreon poll slop clones.

 

[hmc15]

Using gallery pages as a progress metric isn't accurate - the remake has restructured content and added many new scenes/CGs not in the original.

The remake currently contains over 70,000 words, with story progression now at day 3 (dinner time). For timeline reference, 0.6 starts on day 4 at night, and we're very close to reaching the content from 0.4.2 (the update before the party content).

This is a complete remake, not a remaster. I'm rebuilding everything from the ground up with new systems, improved artwork, and better script. (You can also see how many iterations it took to get this right by comparing the early "new" art to the current quality level.)

Updates are released consistently every two weeks. If anyone feels the value isn't there, I'm happy to provide refunds - I've never wanted anyone to feel obligated to support the project.

For those interested in the project's direction, I welcome feedback on any of the new content or features.

Development continues, with the next update coming in less than 2 weeks as scheduled.

Better script? Great. Get rid of the entire maze route...makes zero sense.

 

[Madhealzz]

Am I the only one that genuinely really enjoyed the maze scene? The party as a whole was so unique from any other game at the time when the update released, and seeing glimpses of ayumi little by little was crazy well done in the maze portion. I genuinely had fun playing that update.

That was my 2nd favorite update (dressing room scene just too peak) but all I ever see is hate for it

 

[Hard Working Dev]

Ayumi definitely continues to prioritize MC during the pool scene and they communicate a lot, though as you might guess there will be "distractions" that they both wind up enjoying. If you like what this MC likes, the scene is wholesome.

For my personal take, with much respect to the creator and knowing everyone has individual preferences and yadda yadda:

The remake, to me, now feels much less like a couples discovery story, where lovers are trying new things and growing together as they learn what they enjoy. It's more like a boyfriend training story where everyone but MC is already very experienced and waiting for him to catch up (which, as I'll explain below, he never will due to the story's almost exclusive obsession with physical attributes). I haven't enjoyed that shift in tone, and I only see it getting more pronounced as the story goes on. Some of my favorite games are entirely HTML text, so for me the visual updates are neat but narrative beats are everything.

There have even been times where I couldn't keep a straight face while reading. A GF that prefers dicks so big they literally don't fit inside her, while fucking MC who has a Three-Dog and saying things like "is this all for me" or "you fill me up so nice," is so subtly patronizing that it's funny. Ayumi is a size queen that goes into a mindless trance every time she sees a big dick, fawns over and fantasizes about large physically dominant jerks, and is dating a passive micro-dick twink. She spends most dialogue reassuring (even a Strong/Dom) MC as he giggles, stutters, and tries not to cum from being touched while he fantasizes about bull dicks. As someone who isn't into that infantilization/femdom kink or constant bull dick descriptions, it's more off-putting than erotic.

I already see the Dom/Sub paths winding up like Bioware branches, where if MC picks Sub then Ayumi goes and does what she wants with no rules and if MC picks Dom he "demands" (while stuttering and premature ejaculating) that she does what she wants with no rules. A branch merge might help speed up development; it would remove script complexity and not much would be lost because it doesn't feel like MC will ever be able to embody a Dom/Alpha in this storyline. I got visions of that SNL skit where Jonah Hill is "The Champ" when thinking about this MC hanging out with his friends. It's made fairly clear that MC will never be able to truly satisfy Ari or Ayumi sexually on his own. They like him specifically because he wants to hear about them fucking other people and "gets so hard" from it...? Based on some rough calculations, that takes 50mL of blood for MC and 3 gallons for every other man in that universe. Almost everybody can easily do what this MC does, often better. It's somewhat disappointing to never have it explained why Ayumi and Ari are so uniquely infatuated with this guy, despite so much dialogue spent dancing around "you're physically incompatible with my true sexual preferences, but I love you because you're cool with me fucking big dick Alphas."

Give it some time, tori probably will make you to suck out terrace cum out of girls holes at some point of the story haha.

 

[mok135]

Am I the only one that genuinely really enjoyed the maze scene? The party as a whole was so unique from any other game at the time when the update released, and seeing glimpses of ayumi little by little was crazy well done in the maze portion. I genuinely had fun playing that update.

That was my 2nd favorite update (dressing room scene just too peak) but all I ever see is hate for it

It was an ok update. The reclamation scene was great, everything after that was mid. It was too much of a step down from the dressing room scene - that was why people disliked it that much. But the last scene in the club was gearing up to be something good.

 

[mok135]

Standard size? Dude, his dick is like pinkie size tiny pee pee. Idk, you need to go outside more with your boys or something to compare, skinny dip or something. That's not an average, that's pathetic tiny dick xD
This is cuck ntr game and his tiny dick is to shame player into beta position.

DId you really play the remake or are you talking about the size in the original? Because in the remake it seems like a slightly below average 5 inch dick, which is fine for this game. I am not sure what are you talking about Maybe you have played and read too much hentai if you think that something like Terrace is actually reasonable.

 

[idkmanerally]

Am I the only one that genuinely really enjoyed the maze scene? The party as a whole was so unique from any other game at the time when the update released, and seeing glimpses of ayumi little by little was crazy well done in the maze portion. I genuinely had fun playing that update.

That was my 2nd favorite update (dressing room scene just too peak) but all I ever see is hate for it

it was teased as a big escalation and let people down. kazou ended up being a nothing character, terrace was gone from the entire party, almost all of the sex scenes were lesbian scenes, the greek stuff was out-of-place and didn't pay off at all, and then ended on a cliffhanger that was never resolved and the game got rebooted shortly after.

 

[pakopakez696969]

i didnt like that part neither , i see that not realisitic on a real life...
i prefer the pool or house events, more realistic

 

[Luther9555]

Party being not realistic is such a dumb argument. Sure I think it was downgrade from changing room but calling themed party not realistic is moronic. Kazou is some old rich guy who lives near a beach in a big ass mension, why do you think he or his parties need to be "realistic"

 

[kikomascado]

My issue with the party is that it 100% was a sex cult. Very, very weird.
I like slice-of-life games, so simple, everyday stuff, and those shenanigans seemed really out of place.

 

[pakopakez696969]

in the remake tori will have to redo that part or at least make ir better, at least the rework will make more sense to do it, now that the community says what prefers and what not..

 

[JezzaBoi]

I'm 100% with you guys on the party. I quite liked the idea of it, but I felt it really jumped the gun.
Hopefully Tori keeps it in but just paces it out a bit more realistically.

 

[KourinTatsunagi]

The party had some good ideas, the art portion is pretty nice cause that's one of the more unused scenarios in Hentai even if its popular in irl porn. I wish this part was a bit longer. Tbh idk if its because I enjoyed it more than the maze but the art section felt shorter than the maze lol this could be bias at hand.

The maze part was a missed for me personally. I'm not into futa/lesbian stuff so even the follow up part with Ari was a missed for me. The scenes are good though and if the portion of the community does enjoy it, I don't think Tori will change it up.

My main gripe will always be that Terrance wasn't as prominent in the party. And when he did finally showed up, we got blue balled.

 

[StarsN7]

My issue with the party is that it 100% was a sex cult. Very, very weird.
I like slice-of-life games, so simple, everyday stuff, and those shenanigans seemed really out of place.

I really liked it because it made the game feel unique and original compared to the "slice-of-life games" that are imo very common and this game should not fall into appeasing for mediocrity. Tori has very good writing, pacing and story board it would be really saddening to see it become a copy paste of already worn paths. I don't believe this is going to happen as I think Tori obviously has a vision. I also agree with that person that the party isn't unrealistic but I am excited to see what the changes have to offer!

 

[Madhealzz]

The sex cult comment is interesting, I never thought of it that way but I can see how that would be really out of place for the slice-of-life players based on the previous updates

After reading the replies it looks like there were just too many different things going on. Some people didn't like the Lesbian scene. Some people didn't like the Greek vibe. Some people didn't like the maze & Ake/Pan. Some people thought it was too unrealistic.

This is only my opinion, but I think a few of the other issues with Terrace being MIA, or Kazou not being prominent, are a little unfair because the party wasn't over. I think if 0.6 had released it might have landed a little better. The blue balling probably made that feel worse haha

Either way I'm interested in how Tori will change the party in the remake.
Thanks for all the replies guys!

 

[idkmanerally]

This is only my opinion, but I think a few of thes other issues with Terrace being MIA, or Kazou not being prominent, are a little unfair because the party wasn't over. I think if 0.6 had released it might have landed a little better. The blue balling probably made that feel worse haha

it's valid criticism because the dev teased something and then didn't pay it off. so many NTS games end their updates on cliffhangers, and then the next chapter starts and the cliffhanger is quickly abandoned. in this case, the entire GAME was abandoned to remake it from scratch. this wasn't happenstance or an accident, it was an active choice of the developer.

this is my big criticism of the NTS genre right now. the devs are big on teasing, but when it comes time to ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN, they pull back, change course, or start devolving into remake hell.

at some point you have to conclude the devs are either unwilling or unable to complete the arcs they establish for their stories. unwilling = don't want to kill the golden goose, so they just tease forever to milk patreon, remaster infinitely, etc. unable = they only know how to write teasing and don't actually know to "pay off" the teases in a satisfying way, so they just write themselves in circles.

 

[Adamska]

I think the toga party gets undue hate as the event right before the development pause, it basically femdom-style orgasm denied all of us and we're dealing with the trauma. There's a lot I read about in these games that I've never tried, but I've been to a ton of toga parties and they're a riot. The sex in every otherwise regular scenario is going to be amped up, because it's an adult game and we're all here for sex!

I prefer the public sex/exhibitionism focused stuff personally, but I also enjoyed the maze. My favorite part of that story was the tease element where the payoff was Ayumi showing up mid-scene behind MC (rather than the usual caught-in-the-act NTR ending). I know it was telegraphed way ahead of time, but I enjoy those "reaffirming" moments where the couple's activities are about doing kinky stuff for each other. In my opinion, Tori's writing shines because character motivation is deeper than The love interest acts the exact same as an NTR heroine, but the protag likes it. Whatever we get this time around, I hope that part of Ayumi's personality sticks and we gain a little more leeway as readers to guide her, kink variety wise.

 

[redshiftasdfasdf]

Another newbie in the thread

Less than 24 hours after you posted this another update came out. Conession accepted.

 

[TiTroNiK]

Where have all the good men gone and where are all the gods?
Where’s the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds?
Isn’t there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and I turn, and I dream of what I need
I need a hero