Ren'Py College Craze [v0.7] [Pretty Ink]

[ffive]

If what determines a lesbian path to you is whether it has a scissoring sex scene, then yes Trish is the "only" lesbian path right now.

Personally, for me, if its a woman falling for another woman, with kissing and intimacy then it is a lesbian path, ie, Blair, Ruby and Demi.

I'm not here to argue, just wanted to give my regards as to the paths available.

What determines a route imo is if two people acknowledge their attraction for each other and agree to form some sort of a relationship. By this metric there isn't any real lesbian route in the game, which is btw ending with the next episode, so the odds of things arriving to this point are next to none. Given the game author evidently doesn't have any real interest (experience?) in exploring these areas.

edit: i guess you could say Demi sort of approaches this territory, but even that pairing runs out of steam/content mid through, iirc. Not to mention her path isn't necessarily everyone's cup of tea.

 

[Minttymint]

I have no idea where you got that whole "scissoring" means it's the only actual lesbian relationship type of shit in this game comes from... but whatever.

What i want to say is that this game has pretty much no real "leZ" playthrough.

Yeah you can kiss some other girls which doesn't mean shit (cause there is no real story devolepment behind it, the main focus is on the MC getting plowed by male LI's).

So stop assuming ... and yes i'am not here to argue either but, let's be real this game is not a lesbian friendly entry

Oh for sure, I'm not going to pretend its not het focused. However there absolutely is story development behind the kisses with Blair and Ruby. And of course full sex scenes with Demi, though she doesn't have a vagina hence my scissoring comment, it was not supposed to be a dig.

What determines a route imo is if two people acknowledge their attraction for each other and agree to form some sort of a relationship. By this metric there isn't any real lesbian route in the game, which is btw ending with the next episode, so the odds of things arriving to this point are next to none. Given the game author evidently doesn't have any real interest (experience?) in exploring these areas.

edit: i guess you could say Demi sort of approaches this territory, but even that pairing runs out of steam/content mid through, iirc. Not to mention her path isn't necessarily everyone's cup of tea.

If the agreement to some sort of relationship is what makes a route then only 4-7 characters have "routes" with this definition. (can't give an exact number as I dont remember all the convos off the top of my head) But its fine if thats what defines it for you, its just not how I view it. So obviously if you were to ask me who the lesbian routes are I'd say Trish, Blair, Ruby and Demi with a two hookups available.

The author has said before that some of Blair and Ruby's characters are based on her own experiences in high school/college so perhaps this is why their routes are slower and more experimental when it comes to gxg? I don't know it's whatever lmao. At the end of the day if someone isnt content with the path/routes then thats totally valid. Everyones different after all.

 

[Geigi]

Why would anyone expect that game focuses on lesbian content if the dev herself said it wont be because she's heterosexual? Most western indie dating sim games have at least one lesbian love interest which you could say that FMC is bisexual. Those games are called amare which focuses on LGBTQ protagonist and lis. True lesbian protagonist have Yuri games. If I think about it, only true straight FMC games are Japanese otome games, because even in western otome there are lesbian lis. Why otome games have to include lesbian lis, or have a male protagonist? Why gay games can't have female protagonist, why Yuri games can't have male lis? ONLY otome games are diverse. I won't mention FMC games by male Devs because it's clearly known who are their audience. So, if you want to play games that have even choose your pronouns,

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I'm sorry, but I have only saw one female user who is thrashing lesbian content in FMC games, the rest of us ignore it. I think that there are more female lesbian Devs than straight on this site who are making games for women.

 

[The Celtic fan]

Why would anyone expect that game focuses on lesbian content if the dev herself said it wont be because she's heterosexual? Most western indie dating sim games have at least one lesbian love interest which you could say that FMC is bisexual. Those games are called amare which focuses on LGBTQ protagonist and lis. True lesbian protagonist have Yuri games. If I think about it, only true straight FMC games are Japanese otome games, because even in western otome there are lesbian lis. Why otome games have to include lesbian lis, or have a male protagonist? Why gay games can't have female protagonist, why Yuri games can't have male lis? ONLY otome games are diverse. I won't mention FMC games by male Devs because it's clearly known who are their audience. So, if you want to play games that have even choose your pronouns,

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I'm sorry, but I have only saw one female user who is thrashing lesbian content in FMC games, the rest of us ignore it. I think that there are more female lesbian Devs than straight on this site who are making games for women.

it's not that it's expected to focus on lesbians, it's that the dev herself said that there would be a lesbian route when people asked her in this thread.

it would have been great if she had said no so that people wouldn't expect something.

 

[Geigi]

it's not that it's expected to focus on lesbians, it's that the dev herself said that there would be a lesbian route when people asked her in this thread.

it would have been great if she had said no so that people wouldn't expect something.

Well, after chapter 8 is done, she will be working on other routes, since even by chapter 8 not even all male characters will have their stories concluded. Hopefully, she won't abandon the game after 8th chapter.

 

[ffive]

Why would anyone expect that game focuses on lesbian content if the dev herself said it wont be because she's heterosexual?

Because the developer has stated herself that she intended to give at least a sex scene if not a full route to every character in the game. Not that the game would be only about heterosexual pairings.

If the developer can't get her message err, straight, that's on her, but that's basically overpromise and underdeliver. But why would you now try to gaslight those people who believed the initial claims into making it sound like they're crazy for expecting content they were told would be there? (or for being disappointed that it's not the case)

 

[Geigi]

Because the developer has stated herself that she intended to give at least a sex scene if not a full route to every character in the game. Not that the game would be only about heterosexual pairings.

If the developer can't get her message err, straight, that's on her, but that's basically overpromise and underdeliver. But why would you now try to gaslight those people who believed the initial claims into making it sound like they're crazy for expecting content they were told would be there? (or for being disappointed that it's not the case)

Because it's not the first time that it's asked and answered. Are there no lesbian sex scenes/routes at all? The game isn't completed yet, the dev says that the 8th chapter is final but that she will take a break and then add what's missing in the story/routes of other characters. Until the game is finished and she didn't include other routes like she promised then complaining was rightful so. It's really not fair to say that I'm gaslighting people when I stay away from these discussions in general.

 

[The Celtic fan]

Well, after chapter 8 is done, she will be working on other routes, since even by chapter 8 not even all male characters will have their stories concluded. Hopefully, she won't abandon the game after 8th chapter.

It might happen with routes with men but I doubt it will happen with women's routes, she has already demonstrated that she is not interested in lesbian routes, she has even removed the lesbian tag although technically it is against the rules because if I remember correctly (I haven't played for a long time) there were a few lesbian scenes.

Which is fine if she is not interested, but as I say it would have been great if she had been transparent in the beginning and did not start promising things that she was not interested in fulfilling.

 

[Geigi]

It might happen with routes with men but I doubt it will happen with women's routes, she has already demonstrated that she is not interested in lesbian routes, she has even removed the lesbian tag although technically it is against the rules because if I remember correctly (I haven't played for a long time) there were a few lesbian scenes.

Which is fine if she is not interested, but as I say it would have been great if she had been transparent in the beginning and did not start promising things that she was not interested in fulfilling.

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she answered some questions about female lis and DLCs of other characters she's planning to add.

 

[ffive]

Because it's not the first time that it's asked/complained and answered.

I'm sorry but repeating that actually the author isn't into that (and so people were fools for believing her early claims) doesn't really take the sting out of the disappointment, and imo it's also not a reason to try and shut down people voicing said disappointment about this development, after being effectively lied to when there was absolutely no need for the author to create false expectations, if she indeed never intended to follow through.

Are you telling me that aren't lesbian sex scenes/routes at all?

IIRC there's only one route which develops into anything, and that's Trish (who then promptly puts you on ice anyway) The other two characters, things don't really go beyond a kiss, and one of them reacts negatively to it while the other basically never acknowledges it (or MCs attraction, with the game stopping to check relevant variables after initial chapters) and is far more interested in getting into gangbangs and fucking football players.

There's also Demi, but obv. that's quite an edge case. It's kind of funny that out of maybe 4 female characters in the game for the supposed lesbian pairings one just happens to come with a dick, but none of the million guys for the supposed heterosexual pairings comes with a pussy.

I'm not sure why i even have to answer this, because i'm pretty sure you're aware of this just as much as i am.

As for the time it is taking to complete, there are 34 different characters, 20 of which have routes that still need resolution. Many of whom have stories outside of their routes that also need resolution. There are four different paths for MC could be on. The relationship with the stalker, whether MC has a sponsor, whether the MC is camming, whether she has high grades or low grades. There are MANY variables that need to be taken into account. So yes, it is taking a while, but its not for slacking off.

At this point the game has been in development literally for 4 years without a month (initial drop was in early May 2021) and according to the author it is currently at 93413 words or so. This means on average the game advanced at a pace of 65 words per day.
I got it wrong here: the full size of the game is ~800k words at this point the 90k is for the next chapter. This means the actual work pace on average was ~600-650 words per day. Although it should be noted that for this next chapter which is currently in the works it has dropped to ~300 words/day or so.

(this post minus the quotes has ~350 words, btw)

For comparison, Chapter 13 of Our Red String is over 150k words alone. The amount of variables it juggles is magnitude above this game. And it was made in 6 months.

There's really no beating around this bush. Complexity is not really the issue behind the extremely slow progress of this game.

 

[Geigi]

I'm sorry but repeating that actually the author isn't into that (and so people were fools for believing her early claims) doesn't really take the sting out of the disappointment, and imo it's also not a reason to try and shut down people voicing said disappointment about this development, after being effectively lied to when there was absolutely no need for the author to create false expectations, if she indeed never intended to follow through.


IIRC there's only one route which develops into anything, and that's Trish (who then promptly puts you on ice anyway) The other two characters, things don't really go beyond a kiss, and one of them reacts negatively to it while the other basically never acknowledges it (or MCs attraction, with the game stopping to check relevant variables after initial chapters) and is far more interested in getting into gangbangs and fucking football players.

There's also Demi, but obv. that's quite an edge case. It's kind of funny that out of maybe 4 female characters in the game for the supposed lesbian pairings one just happens to come with a dick, but none of the million guys for the supposed heterosexual pairings comes with a pussy.

I'm not sure why i even have to answer this, because i'm pretty sure you're aware of this just as much as i am.


At this point the game has been in development literally for 4 years without a month (initial drop was in early May 2021) and according to the author it is currently at 93413 words or so. This means on average the game advanced at a pace of 65 words per day.

(this post minus the quotes has over ~350 words, btw)

For comparison, Chapter 13 of Our Red String is over 150k words alone. The amount of variables it juggles is magnitude above this game. And it was made in 6 months.

There's really no beating around this bush. Complexity is not really the issue behind the extremely slow progress of this game.

I didn't know that Demi is a trans. I thought it's Samir.

 

[ffive]

I didn't know that Demi is a trans. I thought it's Samir.

I didn't even know who Samir was (i don't pick Science society, and he's basically absent in this scenario) so i had to check the game wiki and, uhmm



... just what part of this guy made you think he'd be trans?

 

[The Celtic fan]

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she answered some questions about female lis and DLCs of other characters she's planning to add.

Once again we are back to the same thing, she promises things that it is clear that she is not the least bit interested in fulfilling them.

I don't know why someone who is not interested a bit in lesbian content is promising to put it there and if she is going to put it there, it is obviously a second fiddle dish.

She may promise a lot, but the facts show that she is not the least a bit interested in developing lesbian content, as I say she is also the owner of this thread and it is extremely suspicious that she has removed the lesbian tag even though it is against the rules.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting to develop that, I am a lesbian if I were to make a game I would never put men in them.

The only thing I mean is that it would be nice if she would be honest from the beginning, and simply say that there is not going to be a lesbian route or if there is, it is not a priority and it will not have much content, since that is what her actions show, so that all of us who were looking for lesbian content would not be here complaining.

 

[Geigi]

I didn't even know who Samir was (i don't pick Science society, and he's basically absent in this scenario) so i had to check the game wiki and, uhmm

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... just what part of this guy made you think he'd be trans?

Omg, I meant Rafe. I thought he had FTM transition. My bad, I'm not good at remembering characters, this is why I prefer to play final version of games.

 

[Geigi]

Once again we are back to the same thing, she promises things that it is clear that she is not the least bit interested in fulfilling them.

I don't know why someone who is not interested a bit in lesbian content is promising to put it there and if she is going to put it there, it is obviously a second fiddle dish.

She may promise a lot, but the facts show that she is not the least a bit interested in developing lesbian content, as I say she is also the owner of this thread and it is extremely suspicious that she has removed the lesbian tag even though it is against the rules.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting to develop that, I am a lesbian if I were to make a game I would never put men in them.

The only thing I mean is that it would be nice if she would be honest from the beginning, and simply say that there is not going to be a lesbian route or if there is, it is not a priority and it will not have much content, since that is what her actions show, so that all of us who were looking for lesbian content would not be here complaining.

It's why I avoid looking at tags, but in the genre/planned tags section. In genre lesbian, trans and kinks are included that aren't in the main tag.

 

[ffive]

Omg, I meant Rafe. I thought he had FTM transition. My bad, I'm not good at remembering characters, this is why I prefer to play final version of games.

Ohh i see. Well, for what's worth my MC has it on good authority that Rafe isn't hiding a vagina, so if he's trans, that was very thorough.

(also, can't say i ever got this impression from him. He always just seemed like your regular "pothead artist" stereotype to me)

 

[Geigi]

Ohh i see. Well, for what's worth my MC has it on good authority that Rafe doesn't hide a vagina, so if he's trans, that was very thorough.

(also, can't say i ever got this impression from him. He always just seemed like your regular "pothead artist" stereotype to me)

Yeah, my routes are only Jay and McDaddy, but I'm glad we are back on track, I hate arguing with people.

 

[The Celtic fan]

It's why I avoid looking at tags, but in the genre/planned tags section. In genre lesbian, trans and kinks are included that aren't in the main tag.

Yes, but the lesbian tag was there in the beginning and then it was eliminated, something very different.

Anyway the game doesn't interest me anymore , I don't like to be a second fiddle, I was just giving my opinion on why people looking for lesbian content would be complaining.

sincerely I will never understand devs that promise to do something that clearly doesn't interest them, It will be an ordeal for them and the content will be complete crap for those who were interested in that part, no one wins there.

 

[Minttymint]

At this point the game has been in development literally for 4 years without a month (initial drop was in early May 2021) and according to the author it is currently at 93413 words or so. This means on average the game advanced at a pace of 65 words per day.
I got it wrong here: the full size of the game is ~800k words at this point the 90k is for the next chapter. This means the actual work pace on average was ~600-650 words per day. Although it should be noted that for this next chapter which is currently in the works it has dropped to ~300 words/day or so.

(this post minus the quotes has ~350 words, btw)

For comparison, Chapter 13 of Our Red String is over 150k words alone. The amount of variables it juggles is magnitude above this game. And it was made in 6 months.

There's really no beating around this bush. Complexity is not really the issue behind the extremely slow progress of this game.

I wouldn't know the complexity of ORS as I've not dug into its code. We must remember however that they are two different writers, at two different points with their games. Also, their lives do not revolve around writing an erotic VN.

But as I said before if people aren't satisfied that's fine, my original reply was intended to offer a different perspective on the routes mentioned. As a bi woman, I view them all as perfectly valid lesbian paths but obviously they arent all delivering the same level of content nor at the same speed. That's all Ill say now, this has gone on too long for what amounts to YMMV.