Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.40] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[procrastinator101]

Really gotta wonder how the hell people who work in porn games keep fumbling the bag so hard most of the time. Guess people are so desperate to see even a single project succeed that they're willing to throw their money at anything, and once the devs notice that it's easy money, they just start shitting out "updates" that do nothing just to keep milking the cow until the supporters manage to shake off their coomer brain haze and come to their senses, at which point they just abandon the project and make away like bandits.

 

[Alterism]

Ah man cloud meadow now that was a disappointment, I loved the pixel animations but that game never updated and when it did there was no content.

Honestly with how breeding season went down I would have been surprised if it had made it all the way to the end.

And as much as I shit talk CoC2. Even if I think it's fumbling at times. At least it's moving somewhere and I can find some stuff to like as it continues.... man now I'm upsetti spaghetti

CoC2 isn't like an awful game or an awful dev cycle. It just has issues. It's at the right level of contentious where it's cathartic to talk about it without being so run down and busted that it starts feeling uncomfortable. For what it's worth, they haven't had another year as monumentally abysmal as 2022 so that also helps. There may be a bit of drama here and there. But, I fully expect CoC2 to make it across the finish line, one way or the other.

I never expected Cloud Meadow to even come close to the finish line.

Edit: Gonna stick this here

Really gotta wonder how the hell people who work in porn games keep fumbling the bag so hard most of the time. Guess people are so desperate to see even a single project succeed that they're willing to throw their money at anything, and once the devs notice that it's easy money, they just start shitting out "updates" that do nothing just to keep milking the cow until the supporters manage to shake off their coomer brain haze and come to their senses, at which point they just abandon the project and make away like bandits.

As a whole I think it's less cynical then that. You're right that people that back a project usually stay backed until the page dies. But, I believe fumbling the bag is less milking being the goal and more it being the last resort. You see all kinds of games die from breaching patreon ToS, insufficient funds, burn out, real life, or all sorts of other scenarios.

I obviously don't approve of some of the actual dead games still coasting by on goodwill for years before they announce their project had been dead for just as long. But, you can kind of understand when you view it from that kind of perspective of a person not wanting to suddenly cut off their livelihood before they get something else going.

 

[dolosolo]

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porn addiction, keyword being addiction. both the devs and players. One of the easiest things an addict can do is substitute an addiction. for devs money÷effort, makes more sense than money=effort(especially for an addict looking to maximize a high), when the audience still needs them for the fix, regardless of what they do after the player is hooked. And players are just gonna splurge for a taste every time. I heard somewhere that porn addiction affects the brain the same way heroin addiction does. if coc1 was heroin, then coc2 is supposed to be heroin 2 but it's not its muddy and its cut. the coc2 title was the lowest effort hook imaginable

 

[bensal]

Really gotta wonder how the hell people who work in porn games keep fumbling the bag so hard most of the time. Guess people are so desperate to see even a single project succeed that they're willing to throw their money at anything, and once the devs notice that it's easy money, they just start shitting out "updates" that do nothing just to keep milking the cow until the supporters manage to shake off their coomer brain haze and come to their senses, at which point they just abandon the project and make away like bandits.

In my opinion one of the big issues is the patreon system, where it feels that creators are incentivized to basically shit out content for a single project rather than finish a project in some sort of timely manner and start another project.

So basically now that I've typed this, majority of porn games here are an unholy fusion of early access and live service.

 

[Unkoep]

it's not a AAA studio where they can just crap out a whole game in a year or two, and sometimes the devs don't want to work on one project for over 6 years. But patreon really makes them lazy to an extent, "just release a bare minimum update for next month so people still donate" Rinse and Repeat for 4 years and move on because both the creator and fans are burnt out from all the micro updates.

 

[Ramen Rena]

I would love for some content to be written about Kasyrra corrupting kiyoko and turning her into a kitsubbus or something and then gives the amulet back to us and kiyoko that holds a twisted love for the MC. Like a choice when between freeing Kiyoko or giving the amulet to Kasyrra instead.

 

[Unkoep]

Also ain't it wacky how cait was raise in a sex cult from childhood and no talks about how fucked up that is

 

[CboyC95]

it's not a AAA studio where they can just crap out a whole game in a year or two, and sometimes the devs don't want to work on one project for over 6 years. But patreon really makes them lazy to an extent, "just release a bare minimum update for next month so people still donate" Rinse and Repeat for 4 years and move on because both the creator and fans are burnt out from all the micro updates.

That's not true. Not all AAA games are like that. A lot of them are actually pretty good.

 

[devilaffect]

Also ain't it wacky how cait was raise in a sex cult from childhood and no talks about how fucked up that is

To be fair, they aren't all religious prostitutes as Cait mentions that there are also poets and artists in temples. Then there's also the scientist Darius who doesn't whore himself out and Amina who just dances. So it's probably safe to assume there's some degree of separation between the functions of each temple. Still a bit gross for it to be in close proximity though.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

So basically now that I've typed this, majority of porn games here are an unholy fusion of early access and live service.

On a smaller scale, yeah. The games here (far as I've seen, which isn't a lot) usually have very small teams, close to an one-man operation and all which really doesn't help but it's understandable.

As for CoC2, I find it to be more unsatisfying than bad but the game has improved with some of the newer stuff. The hard part is going through most of that before finding the better bits.

Also ain't it wacky how cait was raise in a sex cult from childhood and no talks about how fucked up that is

I did just find out funding her temple is basically funding a whorehouse with financial kickbacks. And people have talked about her grooming religion in the past, kinda why her bit of telling Brienne she'd help with her kids can be rather problematic.

 

[GokutheG]

Also ain't it wacky how cait was raise in a sex cult from childhood and no talks about how fucked up that is

It was actually brought up on the forums and Savin got defensive saying that the temple doesn't groom kids to be prostitutes despite the fact that's literally what happens in Cait's backstory.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

It was actually brought up on the forums and Savin got defensive saying that the temple doesn't groom kids to be prostitutes despite the fact that's literally what happens in Cait's backstory.

Can you quote that? I'm fairly sure cait has dialogue explicitly saying children were kept away from the sex side of things until they were adults. Of all the things you can point to in all these games, underage content isn't one of them outside of some mods for CoC1.

 

[GokutheG]

Can you quote that? I'm fairly sure cait has dialogue explicitly saying children were kept away from the sex side of things until they were adults. Of all the things you can point to in all these games, underage content isn't one of them outside of some mods for CoC1.

They're pushed to be prostitutes if they don't want to leave their family. Isn't that why she had to sneak about taking her prostitute vows so she could go adventuring with her dad.

It's like pre retcon Treatment. Women were expected to take it and turn into a mindless bimbo if she wanted to stay with her family.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

They're pushed to be prostitutes if they don't want to leave their family. Isn't that why she had to sneak about taking her prostitute vows so she could go adventuring with her dad.

It's like pre retcon Treatment. Women were expected to take it and turn into a mindless bimbo if she wanted to stay with her family.

>Pre retcon treatment
They never learn.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

They're pushed to be prostitutes if they don't want to leave their family. Isn't that why she had to sneak about taking her prostitute vows so she could go adventuring with her dad.

I can't say with certainty, her content doesn't really interest me so I've only read most of it once and a while ago at that, but I think she was being set up to enter the leadership structure of the temple she learned at and delayed that to go adventuring. She's still considered a priestess though and presumably took the relevant vows since she's recognised at various points as a valid missionary.

 

[Alterism]

Can you quote that? I'm fairly sure cait has dialogue explicitly saying children were kept away from the sex side of things until they were adults. Of all the things you can point to in all these games, underage content isn't one of them outside of some mods for CoC1.

Oh hey. It's been almost two years since we've bounced back here.
For us, I'd say that's a new record

I mean. I feel like I get your point. But...
They are. Even if that's not the intent of the writers... somehow. That's how it's written.

And it IS indeed a bit... Odd.

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Like. Whatever the word of god or intent was. Most people are either going to either knowingly make concessions because "it's a porn game". Or just accept what it is.
What that is is grooming children in a whorehouse, to work at the whorehouse upon adulthood.

 

[Sewyoba]

They're pushed to be prostitutes if they don't want to leave their family. Isn't that why she had to sneak about taking her prostitute vows so she could go adventuring with her dad.

It's like pre retcon Treatment. Women were expected to take it and turn into a mindless bimbo if she wanted to stay with her family.

What is the problem with this or Treatment? Can't writers just go to the logical conclusion and make player choose to be either a villain or a good guy?

 

[Biostar]

Why does you MC act like a blushing maiden when Hana proposes to you?

 

[PixelLewd]

Why does you MC act like a blushing maiden when Hana proposes to you?
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[Jbuster]

What is the problem with this or Treatment? Can't writers just go to the logical conclusion and make player choose to be either a villain or a good guy?

I'm not sure any writer would do it, for that, it would require anyone on that team to recognize that what happens in Mallach temples is in any way wrong and I doubt they would do that, and then, they would need to give the player a choice to either push Cait against her faith, once again, doubtful, or let her embrace it, which you do with the temple quest, to get more content

Thing is they have put so much background behind Cait and her faith as something normal despite how shifty it is, that I don't think any of them will ever think, "yeah maybe this doesn't work, maybe putting all those details about Cait doing sex stuff with her whole family full of harlots isn't really a great idea, maybe mentioning that she wasn't an adult before leaving the temple wasn't a smart thing to do either, maybe, maybe the whole deal about the rental wombs with kids being rejected and then repurposed for another job (the dancer and her brother) and Cait's sister wanting to leave and that being a problem because her faith pretty much demands her to be a whore is pretty much what the main evil enemy of this game would do, pretty demonic stuff if you ask me"

And brother, they'll never do that

One day you'll get to tackle those issues when and if, someone makes a mod, till then it's Savin's party, and we are only guests