Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.17.1.2 2024-12-30] [Zetan]

[claus001]

people just enjoy this beautiful game

Why enjoy when you can complain?

 

[whichone]

If we were trying to make just a porn game, porn stories, films and games would be our sources of inspiration.
Our sources of inspiration are Mad Max, Fallout and other similar games, settings and movies.

Mate, there are so many people on this site who don't understand what porn is, so classify games with complex stories as "porn games", simply because they have lewd scenes.
It's as though "Ug me see pussy, game be called porn".
DeLuca Family, Rebirth, Reluctant Archon, Ataegina, Hillside, CoBD, Sorcerer, TFTUV, AHITR, Deliverance, What A Legend, Starship Inanna, Heavy Five, Callisto, Lord King, Vae Victis, Through Spacetime...
All have solid stories. All have been incorrectly described as "porn". You're in good company.

He's not an old fart at all, and considering how athletic he is it's safe to assume the MC is rather young.

It's not safe to assume anything of the sort. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact.
He has a daughter in her early twenties.
Simple maths tells you (for a fact, not an assumption), that he's at least mid to late thirties (If he was 15-19 when he had the child), most likely early to mid fourties.
Being athletic is not an accurate indicator of age. Everyone here can see easy RL examples of men in their 50's who are immeasurably more athletic than some 18 years olds out there.

Hold your horses here, guys. I never said anything about that I dislike it. Just little bother, not much... And so far I know that Adult Visual Novel is just nice alternative to term "porn game". In most cases for sure. My GF will disagree with the nice description saying something like "Playing porn game again?"...

I'm afraid to say that both, you and your gf, are incorrect.
The fact that she describes it as such, just sounds like a sign of contempt for what you're playing, possibly because you're not playing with her, instead?
I joke, it's just a lazy, easier term to group anything sexually explicit under.

Regardless of that, in order for something to qualify as "porn" it has to be something where the plot (I use the word very loosely!) only exists to lead you to another scene containing sexually explicit material.
This game & many others on this site have stories which do not act simply as a vehicle to take you to the sex scene, the sex is more a natural part of the story.
The story would still be interesting, if the sex was removed. You cannot say that about porn.
Hence they are categorically not porn, by literal definition of the word.

 

[quiboune]

It's not safe to assume anything of the sort. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact.
He has a daughter in her early twenties.
Simple maths tells you (for a fact, not an assumption), that he's at least mid to late thirties (If he was 15-19 when he had the child), most likely early to mid fourties.

How the fuck is someone in their late thirties an "old fart"?

Being athletic is not an accurate indicator of age. Everyone here can see easy RL examples of men in their 50's who are immeasurably more athletic than some 18 years olds out there.

Exceptions. Rare ones too.

Also, aS a MaTtEr Of faCt, you're objectively wrong about the porn. AVNs can not be porn but this is a porn game. A story-driven porn game, if that makes you feel better. If the sex was removed it would stop being porn, simple as that.

 

[whichone]

How the fuck is someone in their late thirties an "old fart"?

I didn't say that they were. Try reading and comprehending, it helps.
I simply disputed you incorrectly saying that he was "rather young" & proved that he could not be.
Late thirties, early fourties, is not rather young. It's distinctly middle aged.
Stop trying to make an argument from nothing. You were wrong. Deal with it.

Exceptions. Rare ones too.

Nothing rare about it. Got to any gym, most days of the week and you'll see a 50+ year old guy working out on core, or cardio.
I'll lay money on it that he's more athletic than you are & more athletic than a good number of 18-20 year olds, plenty of obese members of that age group.

Also, aS a MaTtEr Of faCt, you're objectively wrong about the porn. AVNs can not be porn but this is a porn game. A story-driven porn game, if that makes you feel better. If the sex was removed it would stop being porn, simple as that.

Wrong. On both counts.
This is not a porn game & I am objectively, dictionary defined, correct about what constitutes porn.
If you take the sex out of this game, the story would still make sense and be of interest = it's not porn.
You are the only person who is "objectively wrong" here. Look up the meaning of the word, before you attempt to talk about it.
It helps when you understand the words you use.
Again, stop trying to make an argument from nothing. You were wrong. Deal with it.

 

[nobody0]

I didn't say that they were. Try reading and comprehending, it helps.
I simply disputed you incorrectly saying that he was "rather young" & proved that he could not be.
Late thirties, early fourties, is not rather young. It's distinctly middle aged.
You were wrong. Deal with it.

Wrong. On both counts.
This is not a porn game & I am objectively, dictionary defined, correct about what constitutes porn.
If you take the sex out of this game, the story would still make sense and be of interest = it's not porn.
You are the only person who is "objectively wrong" here. Look up the meaning of the word, before you attempt to talk about it.
It helps when you understand the words you use.
You were wrong. Deal with it.

It's a porn game. According to the US legal precedent, "I know it when I see it".

But on a more serious note to say it is porn does not belittle how artistic the game is.

 

[quiboune]

I didn't say that they were.
I simply disputed you incorrectly saying that he was "rather young." Because he's not.
Late thirties, early fourties, is not rather young. It's distinctly middle aged.

My comment was directed at someone saying that the MC is an old fart, you decided to disagree out of your own accord. He is not 18, surely, but for a species that lives up to their nineties, late thirties and early forties is in fact rather young, middle-age or not.

Wrong. On both counts.
This is not a porn game & I am objectively, dictionary defined, correct about what constitutes porn.
If you take the sex out of this game, the story would still make sense and be of interest = it's not porn.
You are the only person who is "objectively wrong" here. Look up the meaning of the word, before you attempt to talk about it.
It helps when you understand the words you use.
Again, stop trying to make an argument from nothing. You were wrong. Deal with it.

Again you're acting as if the story makes the existence of porn in the game stop being a reality, but that's easily disproven. For your affirmation to be real, there can be no "pointless sex" (porn for the sake of porn) at all, it should all be part of the plot and even then not essential to the point of being removable with no considerable loss. That's not true, and there are many scenes that prove you wrong with more to come: Ain's Massage, Fairy in the Basement and Chilling With the Daughters in the Living Room.

That's all to entertain the idea that porn is not a big deal in this game when it literally has a gallery with all the sex scenes.

You see, I think that calling it porn does belittle the work produced.
Porn is something where the plot is utterly irrelevant and is only there to serve as a vehicle to take you to the next sexually explicit scene.
If you were a game creator who spent time and effort creating his world and story, you don't think you'd be offended to have your work effectively called "mindless, plotless, purposeless rutting"?

And if anyone needed any more evidence that "objectively, dictionary defined, correct" means shit, this comment solved the problem.

 

[whichone]

My comment was directed at someone saying that the MC is an old fart, you decided to disagree out of your own accord. He is not 18, surely, but for a species that lives up to their nineties, late thirties and early forties is in fact rather young, middle-age or not.

No, it's not.
A young person is defined as being between childhood and adult age.
You cannot be young and middle aged at the same time.
Do you enjoy defeating your own argument?
I disagreed with 2 things: One was you saying that he must be young because he's athletic, because athleticism is not an accurate or reliable indicator of age.
The other was you defining him as "rather young", because he's not, he's middle aged. You'd need to be in your 70's or 80's to call him young, relatively.
His youngest daughter is "young", his 20+ year old daughter is "rather young". He is middle aged.
You're wrong.

Again you're acting as if the story makes the existence of porn in the game stop being a reality, but that's easily disproven. For your affirmation to be real, there can be no "pointless sex" (porn for the sake of porn) at all, it should all be part of the plot and even then not essential to the point of being removable with no considerable loss. That's not true, and there are many scenes that prove you wrong with more to come: Ain's Massage, Fairy in the Basement and Chilling With the Daughters in the Living Room.

I did not once say that the story makes the lewd scenes no longer exist.
READ, it will really help you to comprehend.
I specifically said that the lewd scenes being there does not mean the game qualifies as porn.
If you took the sex scenes out of the game, the story would still be of interest.
Porn, on the other hand, has no story of interest, once the sex scenes are removed.
That is the fundamental difference & is precisely why this game is not porn.

That's all to entertain the idea that porn is not a big deal in this game when it literally has a gallery with all the sex scenes.

No. It's to entertain the fact that the game is not a porn game.
It displaying the erotic images in a pornographic gallery, does not make the game porn. It just makes the gallery so.
You're desperately clutching at straws and failing.

And if anyone needed any more evidence that "objectively, dictionary defined, correct" means shit, this comment solved the problem.

Read the dictionary, you are clearly & sadly lacking in education of the term's definition.
Even wikipedia will do:

Pornography (often shortened to porn, or porno) is the portrayal of

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subject matter for the exclusive purpose of

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A distinction could be drawn between uncensored explicit or hardcore erotic art, and pornography.

These games are far more than just "sexual subject matter on display" & they are for far more than "the exclusive purpose of arousal".
These games also have distinct "artistic value".
Ergo they are not pornography, by literal fucking definition.
You're wrong. Deal with it.

 

[lucky65]

I think you got it. This is pretty much how I remember it.

ok thanks for the reply will try another run through later and see if it works. Right now I think I am stuck, or game is at end after I get fairy and she is in basement without spoiling game for anyone.

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[asdfasdfasdf23323r]

Enjoying the game immensely. Can I get more Zahra scenes? She really is the best wife

 

[Spfjolietjake]

ok thanks for the reply will try another run through later and see if it works. Right now I think I am stuck, or game is at end after I get fairy and she is in basement without spoiling game for anyone.

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Besides the things you mentioned Didja follow Ivy to the bunker and go to town and take a walk with your niece? Did you talk to all of your family and exhaust the subjects? If so you're probably at the end of all the content til next update

 

[Enigmanic]

..Late thirties, early fourties, is not rather young. It's distinctly middle aged.
..

Actually, it's not. In the current decade the average human lifespan is 70-90 with more people living past 100.
Fifties would be middle-age.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

I really don't care what age the mc is as long he ain't another: watching mommy shower and touching her while she sleeps perv kid.

Lucky this mc is mature, bad ass and smart. Also quite an asshole in my main route just perfect imo

 

[Enigmanic]

Actually, it is.
The 2020 global average human life span was 78.7 years old, for men.
Half of that is 39.35.
As I said: "Late thirties, early fourties is distinctly middle aged", but I'll change "distinctly", to "precisely".

Splitting the average age for males doesn't cut it. Forties is never considered middle-age. Look it up.

 

[whichone]

Splitting the average age for males doesn't cut it. Forties is never considered middle-age. Look it up.

Yes it does & yes it is.
I did look up the information, but I initially used only UK information, where the age range I gave is precisely middle aged.
You clearly did not. Your averages were way off.
The 2020 global average human life span was 72.81 years old, for men.
Half of that is 36.405.

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report it as now being 37.

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define it as 40-60.
Even Wikipedia define it as 45-65.
All classify our fourties as being middle aged.
It's clearly not me who needs to "look it up".

 

[Enigmanic]

Yes it does & yes it is.
I did look up the information, but I initially used only UK information, where the age range I gave is precisely middle aged.
You clearly did not. Your averages were way off.
The 2020 global average human life span was 72.81 years old, for men.
Half of that is 36.405.

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report it as now being 37.

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define it as 40-60.
It's clearly not me who needs to "look it up".

You're arguing semantics. Fourties haven't been considered middle age for a very long time. And those statistics you quote are not always accurate globally. Many more people are living longer these days with more people living over 100. In common terminology fourties are never considered middle-age.

 

[Enigmanic]

Of course, you're obviously right & everyone else on the planet is wrong. Of course.

If you say so. I've lived long enough to know that no one considers 40 middle-aged.

 

[Enigmanic]

Well that statement is quite obviously incorrect, as you're talking to one person who has always known it to be such & everyone that I know shares the same view. When I turned 40 a good number of people remarked on me being middle aged.
Wikipedia is produced by the public, so obviously enough people consider fourties to be middle aged for them to define it as such.
Men's Health took a more literal approach & defined it as now being 37, from a public survey.
Collins dictionary also define it as beginning at 40.

But yeah, obviously you're correct & no-one considers it such.
Can someone really be so obtuse?

Go ahead and ask a bunch of 37-40yo's if they consider themselves middle-aged. Maybe look up proper nomenclature. Furthermore, anyone can edit a wiki page, that doesn't make them right.
For another thing, those men's magazines take a lot of marketing into account when they write their articles.

But go around calling 37-year-olds middle-age and see what kind of reactions you get.

 

[Enigmanic]

Again, stupid response.
Of course someone who is just turning middle aged will not consider themself such.
That doesn't alter the fact that they are.
I have provided numerous reputable sources & you're arguing with them, as well as with someone who is in their fourties.

Seriously now, go away. You're not worth the time.
You're trying to argue with facts.
Good luck with that.

Good luck trying to apply simplistic math to society's perceptions about common terminology. And if I wasn't worth the time then you wouldn't bother to continue arguing. But keep going, I have all night.

 

[Enigmanic]

You're behaving like a moron & you have nothing as a valid argument, that's why it's boring now.
You're clueless & lonely, I get it.
Try not arguing with facts, you might end up with some friends.

And yet you keep replying. Did you want to be friends? Thanks for your interest in my social calander, I'll see if I can fit you in.

 

[Canto Forte]

What the bable is going on here? Are y”all outta your heads today?
MC HAS 2 GROWN UP MATING AGED DAUGHTERS FFS!
How young did you think someone who was his wife”s cherry popper would be?

Yes, because you know what society's perceptions are, better than a major international magazine, better than wikipedia, better than the dictionary. Of course you do. You're special.

And yet you keep replying. Did you want to be friends? Thanks for your interest in my social calander, I'll see if I can fit you in.

This is now tom hardy in the mad max fantasy, but bearded mel gibson is great also.
How young do you think the actual living breeding men who played mad max are?