VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[Knight_of_the_lance]

An other thing to consider is that all the characters that we have met is a small sample of Morrigan's world. The characters correspond to what is needed for the story regardless of what "the world" is actually composed of. And Ashe is described as short. Shorty is even one of her nicknames. So most of the other characters Fem, Mono, Duplo will be as tall or taller than her.

To me at least it seems like "the world" is mostly composed of individuals of similar outer appearance.

With all that said, Fiona does have a squarer jaw line than other characters. I just wonder if that trait is exclusive to Futas (mono or duplo) or if it can also occur to fem characters.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Or we could just all be reading WAY too much into this and trying to equate it to other futa-oriented games that usually have the whole "futa übermensch" stick and, while I don't want to talk on the behalf of the dev, it really doesn't seem like he's aiming for some sort of egregious racial commentary and more just trying to tell a story about a bunch of people (MC in particular) who are all dealing with their own circumstances.
That being said, it does focus on discriminatory and borderline predatory behaviour towards duplos, but I think that's where that type of thing ends. If there was any intent to have futas as some sort of "superior race", I reckon it would have showed up by now.

It's also something that's very divisive as it's basically a fetish in plain sight so I don't really see the point of it being introduced either.

 

[MorallyLucky]

Or we could just all be reading WAY too much into this and trying to equate it to other futa-oriented games that usually have the whole "futa übermensch" stick and, while I don't want to talk on the behalf of the dev, it really doesn't seem like he's aiming for some sort of egregious racial commentary and more just trying to tell a story about a bunch of people (MC in particular) who are all dealing with their own circumstances.
That being said, it does focus on discriminatory and borderline predatory behaviour towards duplos, but I think that's where that type of thing ends. If there was any intent to have futas as some sort of "superior race", I reckon it would have showed up by now.

It's also something that's very divisive as it's basically a fetish in plain sight so I don't really see the point of it being introduced either.

That's a strawman no one is prescribing anything about the characters or the universe. We are just playing a game of averages i.e on average monos/duplos/femmes are Y than M/D/F: the game lore itself mentions that on average duplos are hornier/have a higher libido than the other genders; does that mean the game is implying that duplos are a superior/inferior gender?

The universe is clearly varied in its designs but that doesn't mean people can't connect dots and try to infer things.

 

[Ciaran8023]

That's a strawman no one is prescribing anything about the characters or the universe. We are just playing a game of averages i.e on average monos/duplos/femmes are Y than M/D/F: the game lore itself mentions that on average duplos are hornier/have a higher libido than the other genders; does that mean the game is implying that duplos are a superior/inferior gender?

The universe is clearly varied in its designs but that doesn't mean people can't connect dots and try to infer things.

I mean.. that's exactly what's happening however?
There's been a fair few posts inferring that there would be some evidence behind futas having a superior physical build compared to duplos or regular females, based on the very small sample of characters that we've been introduced to. As you've said, humans always try to find connections, but saying that none of the posts are inferring anything is a bit facetious.

Also I wouldn't say that duplos are A gender, they're just all of the genders at once and likely have some wild hormonal fluctuations, likely giving them that stigma. Atleast if we base it in real world biology, which is just absolute conjecture since it's a piece of fiction, the dev can do whatever he wants in regards to that.
EDIT- I'd like to clarify that when I note "gender", I am talking about biological sex, I simply used the same term as the post I was quoting.

 

[sbarabaus]

i think monos are bigger in the game because they play the role of males in this universe
so even if it isn't a inherent rule, these characters happened to be mostly designed this way

 

[Birdnman993]

Or we could just all be reading WAY too much into this and trying to equate it to other futa-oriented games that usually have the whole "futa übermensch" stick and, while I don't want to talk on the behalf of the dev, it really doesn't seem like he's aiming for some sort of egregious racial commentary and more just trying to tell a story about a bunch of people (MC in particular) who are all dealing with their own circumstances.
That being said, it does focus on discriminatory and borderline predatory behaviour towards duplos, but I think that's where that type of thing ends. If there was any intent to have futas as some sort of "superior race", I reckon it would have showed up by now.

I can't speak for everyone else but I will say that all of these questions are just for entertainment while the episode airs.

Like this question, Are the prisons in EI mixed or separate between Monos and Female? And if they are separate where would the Duplos go? I guess I would go to the Monos section, although I would need some birth control for all the non-consensual premarital sex.

i think monos are bigger in the game because they play the role of males in this universe
so even if it isn't a inherent rule, these characters happened to be mostly designed this way

Simple but effective argument, I like it.

 

[Ciaran8023]

I can't speak for everyone else but I will say that all of these questions are just for entertainment while the episode airs.

Like this question, Are the prisons in EI mixed or separate between Monos and Female? And if they are separate where would the Duplos go? I guess I would go to the Monos section, although I would need some birth control for all the non-consensual premarital sex.

Well yeah, I didn't say that ALL of the posts were trying to infer something, but at the same time the post I was quoting was seemingly trying to say that NONE of the posts were inferring anything which isn't exactly accurate either.

As for the question, I'm fairly certain that monos and female would be separate as it would be extremely difficult to enforce any sort of control otherwise, hell it's hard enough within gender specific prisons to do that. It might not be separate prisons, but separate blocks for sure and with their own respective shower/recreational areas.

As for the duplo factor.. well, if the game is to believed that they're essentially discriminated on a systemic level then I wouldn't be surprised if they were held in things similar to isolation wards. Duplos seemingly are quite rare and viewed as essentially freaks without control so it would make sense to do something like an isolation ward scenario given that there aren't that many of them.
It all depends on how cruel the worldbuilding wants to be really.

i think monos are bigger in the game because they play the role of males in this universe
so even if it isn't a inherent rule, these characters happened to be mostly designed this way

Yeah, I think that's an accurate assessment. It doesn't feel like the dev is intending anything more than that.

 

[MorallyLucky]

I mean.. that's exactly what's happening however?
There's been a fair few posts inferring that there would be some evidence behind futas having a superior physical build compared to duplos or regular females, based on the very small sample of characters that we've been introduced to. As you've said, humans always try to find connections, but saying that none of the posts are inferring anything is a bit facetious.

Also I wouldn't say that duplos are A gender, they're just all of the genders at once and likely have some wild hormonal fluctuations, likely giving them that stigma. Atleast if we base it in real world biology, which is just absolute conjecture since it's a piece of fiction, the dev can do whatever he wants in regards to that.
EDIT- I'd like to clarify that when I note "gender", I am talking about biological sex, I simply used the same term as the post I was quoting.

Looking for clues of sexual dimorphism is not, in fact, asserting that X is "superior" to Y nor does it mean that every single member of X has that specific trait. It's just a basic biological phenomenon.

 

[Braga96]

I have seen no instances of gendered bathrooms or locker rooms. So I am led to believe that futa/females are equal and the only difference is reproductive equipment. Assuming there are no inherent physical advantages to being a futa I wonder how society developed. I assume it would be more egalitarian than our own society.

 

[Buletti]

I have seen no instances of gendered bathrooms or locker rooms. So I am led to believe that futa/females are equal and the only difference is reproductive equipment. Assuming there are no inherent physical advantages to being a futa I wonder how society developed. I assume it would be more egalitarian than our own society.

It is in fact a testament to the worldbuilding and lore of this VN that it actually is not completely ridiculous to think about stuff like this.

All hail Morrigan for this wonderful piece of escapism!

 

[Braga96]

It is in fact a testament to the worldbuilding and lore of this VN that it actually is not completely ridiculous to think about stuff like this.

All hail Morrigan for this wonderful piece of escapism!

I wholeheartedly agree. As a huge fan of biology and worldbuilding this setting is really fascinating with all the things you can do with it that contrasts with our own. Personally I kind of hope that futa don't have a physical advantage over fem because I think that would lead to more interesting worldbuilding and theory making.

 

[damnedfrog]

MorriganRae we have a big discussion here, that only you can clarified.
So, are monos statistically taller than females?
And duplos?

The suspense is unbearable, and we won't be able to sleep without knowing.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I have seen no instances of gendered bathrooms or locker rooms. So I am led to believe that futa/females are equal and the only difference is reproductive equipment. Assuming there are no inherent physical advantages to being a futa I wonder how society developed. I assume it would be more egalitarian than our own society.

Well the gym does indeed have a mixed locker, so maybe they don't really bother much with making gender divisions there. Interesting cultural hint there i dare to say.

 

[Tad Cooper]

What gets me is that sexual selection rapidly leads to sexual dimorphism, so if it isn't going to result in significant physical differences in this setting there has to be some way for members of society to figure out who has complementary parts for making babies. Animals that lack it in the real world usually have behavior patterns that indicate their role in mating, like

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Here speech patterns, posture, and clothing all appear to be more or less unisex unless I'm missing something. So what's going on? Smell? Victorian style debuts where everybody learns who's ready to have a baby? Public database? Everybody just asks what's in your pants on the first date and potentially gets disappointed if they're looking for kids long term?

If whatever alien language they're actually speaking has gendered self pronouns I suppose that would probably be good enough, but I'd assume more differences would pop up quickly. Maybe monos are generally more fashion conscious and extravagant to try and impress females, like birds or 18th century gentlemen, and Fiona and Cleo are just bucking trends by dressing in more casual clothing.

I hope Episode 5 features Ashe getting baked and watching a documentary narrated by world renowned biologist and nature presenter Daveigh Attenborough to explain all this.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

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Hey everyone
I've done a lot of work this week! I managed to fully implement all music and sound effects. Among this you'll find 19 new songs and a handful of new SFX. I also finished the story recap at the beginning of Episode 5.
So here's the progress statistic you've all been waiting for so long:

• Writing: 100%
• Character models: 100%
• Environments: 100%
• Renders: 100%
  • Day 14: 378/378
  • Day 15: 817/817
  • Day 16: 436/436
  • Day 17: 434/434
• Music/Sound: 100%

Release dates

• Gold, Silver: October 22nd
• Bronze, itch.io: October 29th
• Public release: November 12th

Despite all those pretty numbers I'm not quite done yet. There's a few smaller things to do, mainly some UI stuff and the image conversion to WEBP. Besides that it's all about testing. I've played through the episode many many times over the course of the last couple months, so there shouldn't be any big issues left. But I like to fine-tune stuff until the very last minute. So I'll probably spend the weekend doing that.
This will be the last progress report for a little while. I intend to take a little break from working on EI when the early access starts. Nothing major, probably around two weeks to regain some energy. I'll obviously still be around for questions, discussions and your feedback for the new episode, or any necessary bugfixes. I also have some bonus stuff planned, so that'll come too.
After that comes planning and writing Episode 6. In the early days of a new episode there's usually not much to report. You can expect the progress reports to come back around when the public release drops (November 12th).
And with that, I already wish you much fun with the new episode! I'm very excited to see what you all think of it.

❤ Thank you all for your support, it really means a lot to me! Enjoy your weekend! ❤

 

[Braga96]

What gets me is that sexual selection rapidly leads to sexual dimorphism, so if it isn't going to result in significant physical differences in this setting there has to be some way for members of society to figure out who has complementary parts for making babies. Animals that lack it in the real world usually have behavior patterns that indicate their role in mating, like

You must be registered to see the links

or

You must be registered to see the links

.

Here speech patterns, posture, and clothing all appear to be more or less unisex unless I'm missing something. So what's going on? Smell? Victorian style debuts where everybody learns who's ready to have a baby? Public database? Everybody just asks what's in your pants on the first date and potentially gets disappointed if they're looking for kids long term?

If whatever alien language they're actually speaking has gendered self pronouns I suppose that would probably be good enough, but I'd assume more differences would pop up quickly. Maybe monos are generally more fashion conscious and extravagant to try and impress females, like birds or 18th century gentlemen, and Fiona and Cleo are just bucking trends by dressing in more casual clothing.

I hope Episode 5 features Ashe getting baked and watching a documentary narrated by world renowned biologist and nature presenter Daveigh Attenborough to explain all this.

When Isabelle remarked that Ashe presumably had a cock I am assuming in this setting there isn't really a way to tell sex unless futa's where clothes that accentuates the bulge. And while it does seem that some characters have preferences for the most part everyone seems to be varying degrees of bisexual which makes sense because of how little sexual dimorphism appears to be present. I also wonder if the stigma against duplos is Earthwide or are there countries that are more tolerant or even views them positively

 

[clrgm]

Who do you think Ashe will bang next episode?

In my opinion, Episode 4 built for scenes with Vanessa (real date), Fiona (licking), Natasha (blackmail), and Evelyn (last scene). I’m aiming for at least two of them, as I know it’s impossible to have four sex scenes in one episode, especially since this one won’t be as big as it looks. Don’t forget that a lot of the 2K renders are divided among three paths.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Who do you think Ashe will bang next episode?

In my opinion, Episode 4 built for scenes with Vanessa (real date), Fiona (licking), Natasha (blackmail), and Evelyn (last scene). I’m aiming for at least two of them, as I know it’s impossible to have four sex scenes in one episode, especially since this one won’t be as big as it looks. Don’t forget that a lot of the 2K renders are divided among three paths.

Honestly, bit hard to say.
Ashe isn't exactly too close to anyone, besides maybe Fiona, and given that she's just recently gotten laid and is now facing blackmail makes it pretty difficult to pinpoint anyone that wouldn't feel "cheap" so to speak. Ashe is basically a bundle of neurotic anxiety, I wouldn't be surprised if she would find it difficult to be intimate with someone she isn't entirely sure of and there aren't that many people in that category.

Of course this is speaking from a consensual point of view, so rapecop is fair game I suppose, and it seems unlikely that something will happen with Evelyn just yet.

 

[Jafo]

Hey everyone I've done a lot of work this week! I managed to fully implement all music and sound effects. Among this you'll find 19 new songs and a handful of new SFX. I also finished the story recap at the beginning of Episode 5. So here's the progress statistic you've all been waiting for so long: Writing: 100% Character models: 100% Environments: 100% Renders: 100% Day 14: 378/378 Day 15: 817/817 Day 16: 436/436 Day 17: 434/434 Music/Sound: 100% Release dates Gold, Silver: October 22nd Bronze, itch.io: October 29th Public release: November 12th Despite all those pretty numbers I'm not quite done yet. There's a few smaller things to do, mainly some UI stuff and the image conversion to WEBP. Besides that it's all about testing. I've played through the episode many many times over the course of the last couple months, so there shouldn't be any big issues left. But I like to fine-tune stuff until the very last minute. So I'll probably spend the weekend doing that. This will be the last progress report for a little while. I intend to take a little break from working on EI when the early access starts. Nothing major, probably around two weeks to regain some energy. I'll obviously still be around for questions, discussions and your feedback for the new episode, or any necessary bugfixes. I also have some bonus stuff planned, so that'll come too. After that comes planning and writing Episode 6. In the early days of a new episode there's usually not much to report. You can expect the progress reports to come back around when the public release drops (November 12th). And with that, I already wish you much fun with the new episode! I'm very excited to see what you all think of it. ❤ Thank you all for your support, it really means a lot to me! Enjoy your weekend! ❤

 

[Braga96]

I can't speak for everyone else but I will say that all of these questions are just for entertainment while the episode airs.

Like this question, Are the prisons in EI mixed or separate between Monos and Female? And if they are separate where would the Duplos go? I guess I would go to the Monos section, although I would need some birth control for all the non-consensual premarital sex.


Simple but effective argument, I like it.

I've been doing some thinking on this question. Would prisons develop differently than our own world? Is violent crime at the same level as our world or is it much less due to no male sex. Mono's for the most part don't act much differently than females with the exception of Cleo and Natasha. Cleo seems to be an anomoly since Ashe and her mother never heard of the "Alpha" concept. Assuming all the sexes are naturally less aggressive then males of our world on average maybe prisons are more of a rehabilitative institution instead of a punative institution. Just some fun conjecture while I wait for the update.