QSP Evil 2 [v0.73] [community project]

[noobtrain]

I think slavery need some love to make the start/middle game interesting (yes there are masochist players liking to play games without the cheating options )

The main problems I see are :

1/ Energy managment at the farm. When you are at full energy you can only do 3 or 4 main training actions before beeing depleted and have no way to recover. Possible solutions :
- Reduce the energy costs of training
- Permit to take a nap at the farm

Note this energy problem is global. The fact you can't recovers any energy and need to pass the entire day when depleted kills the game... We may be able to have at least one nap per day (same option at the hot tub when you own the mansion but limited per day)

2/ Difficulty to select the kidnapped girls you wan't to train. When you kidnap a girl you have no option to get ride of it without training her and it's boring due tofirst point exposed. Possible solutions :
- Sell her for a very low price to another trainer you are friend with
- Have a way to simply kill her (command injector is not an option...)

Some prefers quality than quantity.

3/ More options for kidnapping. For now you can only use the taxi or the ennemy option, which is very limited. Possible options :
- In dancing club when you catch a drunken girl ave the option to travel with her at home or at farm
- Be able to propose a date to a girl you know well (rel 180+ for example) to "visit" the farm...
- In the choice of blackmailling a girl add a choice to get her adress to later kidnap her (transform her in an ennemy if easier to dev)
- Had a random "kidnap" task to the gang jobs (would need a womanizer or partier member and quality of kidnapped girls could depend or his training)

There's no development going on right now but I'll address a few of your suggestions.

#1
Energy management improves the longer you play. The MC starts off with 10 energy and can get it all the way up to 25 with high fitness stats. I only see energy management being a problem early game. There's a max energy cheat in the cheat menu for those who wish to do more after being exhausted. Your nap suggestion is a good one.

#2
Mostly agree with you here. Additional kidnapping methods would be great. I don't however agree with kidnapping a girl just to kill her later. This isn't a serial killer game. The game is called evil but it's being evil with a purpose - to gain wealth, reputation, and power.

#3
Here's the problem with some of your additional kidnapping suggestions - there can't be a paper trail leading back to you! If you kidnap a girl from the club, cameras will most likely catch you leaving with the girl. Once a police investigation begins, there's a paper trail leading back to you (video footage in this case). The same problem applies to asking a girl on a date to your farm. The girl could have told a friend where she was going or it could be recorded online (if using a dating app). So basically, kidnapping a girl can't lead the police in your direction.

Thank you for the ideas and suggestions!

 

[Strec]

2/ The idea was no to be a serial killer but to get rid of girls you don't want to train, any method would be ok, you can even imagine an option "release her in the open countryside far from here". As soon as she don't appear longer in the list it's ok

3/ lol. Apply this point of view to a kidnapping with a teaser in a taxi too
More seriously I agree that kidnaping someone would be far harder than it is for now, the only realistic method in the current state of the game is the "ennemy" method as we can consider you prepare the kidnapping.

Knowing the difficulties of dev in qsp I only proposed idea easily doable on this subject but there are a lot to make this part more interesting that "tease a girl in the taxi".

In the easy way I would suggest to only permit kidnapping at girl's home after you get her address by any method. It have 2 interests for the development :
- you can add an option to obtain the address of the girl as soon as relation is high enough, so without coding anything but 2 menu entries on the girls dialogs (one for getting adress and one to launch the kidnapping)
- you can add a gang option to kidnap a girl at home
- you can later elaborate the "kidnap at home" feature as it will be centralized

Note that concerning the other methods I proposed the virtual ethic/realistic problems you exposed would be easily solved by making the player losing a big amount of "cop friends" points for each kidnapping or by restricting the feature to one max kidnapping per week

You could also have a very simplier method by adding in the slave market an option to buy non-trained slaves for a low price.

 

[Warscared]

2/ The idea was no to be a serial killer but to get rid of girls you don't want to train, any method would be ok, you can even imagine an option "release her in the open countryside far from here". As soon as she don't appear longer in the list it's ok

3/ lol. Apply this point of view to a kidnapping with a teaser in a taxi too
More seriously I agree that kidnaping someone would be far harder than it is for now, the only realistic method in the current state of the game is the "ennemy" method as we can consider you prepare the kidnapping.

Knowing the difficulties of dev in qsp I only proposed idea easily doable on this subject but there are a lot to make this part more interesting that "tease a girl in the taxi".

In the easy way I would suggest to only permit kidnapping at girl's home after you get her address by any method. It have 2 interests for the development :
- you can add an option to obtain the address of the girl as soon as relation is high enough, so without coding anything but 2 menu entries on the girls dialogs (one for getting adress and one to launch the kidnapping)
- you can add a gang option to kidnap a girl at home
- you can later elaborate the "kidnap at home" feature as it will be centralized

Note that concerning the other methods I proposed the virtual ethic/realistic problems you exposed would be easily solved by making the player losing a big amount of "cop friends" points for each kidnapping or by restricting the feature to one max kidnapping per week

You could also have a very simplier method by adding in the slave market an option to buy non-trained slaves for a low price.

if she is rich you should break her and train her properly and get rid of her in the international slave market!
even if she is just middle class but as a "respectable" job you are risking too much to keeping her around!
i roleplay i only let them work at the gloryholes away from prying eyes!
even in the brothel its dangerous if one of your customers recognises her and starts making questions!

probably add in a mechanic where someone recognises her and you must bribe the cops to keep the thing silenced!
even than it might still blow up in your face,
like a 10% chance if she is rich and 1% if she is middle class with a previous decent job!
0.1% if she is from a poor family!
after you get the signal at the start of the day you must pay the cops and even then there is still a 10% of it blowing up in the newspapers!
the higher you reach societal standing the more you risk you have by engaging in such maneuvers!
perhaps get a mechanic for your brother Anton or whatever is his name to take over the least savory parts of your job!
so if things go south he goes to jail for 4 to 8 years depending on much money you are willing to spend on his defence!
if he is still under the age of 21 he might get off with a slap on the wrist and a shitload of money wasted!

ofc this also means you get only 25% of the regular income 75% goes to your brother and 10% for the girl he picks to be the madam!

another choice could ofc be, you use a balaclava and once you realise how dangerous she can be,
you can fill her full of drugs and dump her,
so even after having fun with her once you realise she used to be a lawyer or a rich daddy´s girl time to jump the fence!
even if she survives the overdose her brain will be so fried she won't ever be able to testify!
i mean it can be a nice source of income when you are nobody,
just break her and sell her off in the slave market for the "export market!"
it would also mean you might get pegged or have to engaged with the slave market misstress who is into domination!
Since she starts collecting dirt on you!
Can you imagine, since you are in the capital...
you kidnap a minister's/general/rich tycoon daughter or some shit like that...
just kill her off immediately and kill anyone who might connect you to the crime,
anything else and you are asking for trouble, even asking for a ransom is just too dangerous!

 

[skybarbie]

3/ lol. Apply this point of view to a kidnapping with a teaser in a taxi too

Friendly tip - don't assume you know more about the game world than the developers.

noobtrain addressed this a while back.

https://thef95zone.info/threads/evil-2-v0-73-community-project.41582/post-9780340

No traffic cams - No GPS on phones (1998 technology) - Independent cab service - Picking customers up in person (being waved over, not by phone or other method) - Tase the girl in a remote location with no witnesses, remove the battery out of her phone before taking her to your farm = no paper trail

 

[Brok TheDog]

Hi, 2 questions. The first, how to kill Mabuta. Before we could recruit snipers (there I did not find them). 2 is that at one point we can meet the family of our men's friends (it would be cool to be able to enslave women and child of some guys)

 

[Strec]

Friendly tip - don't assume you know more about the game world than the developers.

Don't worry I've no intention to re-launch any war, just that sometimes the fact that english is not my native langage and some phrase could appear agressive without any will to be

I close the subject here, initially I just asked for a way to to get rid of some NPCs in my list at the farm without killing them with injector

Good luck and continue the job.

 

[noobtrain]

Hi, 2 questions. The first, how to kill Mabuta. Before we could recruit snipers (there I did not find them). 2 is that at one point we can meet the family of our men's friends (it would be cool to be able to enslave women and child of some guys)

After your 'Gunman for robberies' gets a handful of kills, assign him as a hitman and ask him to assassinate Mabuta. You'll then need to make a deal with the Chief of Police (much better deal) to have the police look the other way. You want your 'Gunman for robberies' gang member to have a high soldier skill for best success.

No on your second question.

 

[The Grifter]

As I wrote in the past, I also find it unfortunate/mildly frustrating that the player for example might know a middle-aged women, with one or more named daughters of legal age, but no means to turn them into full npc's and meet them.
But, after getting some very patient explaining, I do now get the reasoning behind this. Without adding any consequences or events, like the parent becoming an enemy and you have to pay for a hit within X days or something after mom/dad realize the player did VeryEvil2Things(TM) to her/his girl, it doesn't make sense in the game world to make this possible.

Moving on, I noticed something I consider slightly inconsistent - if you blackmail a high society contact into being your whore with a sex tape she'll refuse being a camwhore. But when you manage to indebt her, and then make her one when she cannot afford to repay it, she'll agree to it... don't know if this is intended?
Suggestion: instead of having her always refuse the option, add a corruption check where maybe at 80+ you get an additional line of text, something like that she agrees as long as she can wear a mask and possibly a wig (yeah, I really like having my stable of indebted high society camwhores ). I'd normally go for pixelating her head, but I guess the ingame tech isn't advanced enough for that option.

 

[noobtrain]

Moving on, I noticed something I consider slightly inconsistent - if you blackmail a high society contact into being your whore with a sex tape she'll refuse being a camwhore. But when you manage to indebt her, and then make her one when she cannot afford to repay it, she'll agree to it... don't know if this is intended?

Working as intended. Sex tape or being exposed to the public by being a camwhore, she's being exposed publicly regardless with a damaged or ruined reputation. Why agree to be your camwhore when the result is basically going to be the same? When she's indebted to you, the motivation is much stronger. The 'Family Trouble' story talked about this a lot, how someone could legally be forced into slavery to pay a debt. Agreeing to be your whore is a much better option than being turned into a slave.

 

[doujinftw]

Working as intended. Sex tape or being exposed to the public by being a camwhore, she's being exposed publicly regardless with a damaged or ruined reputation. Why agree to be your camwhore when the result is basically going to be the same? When she's indebted to you, the motivation is much stronger. The 'Family Trouble' story talked about this a lot, how someone could legally be forced into slavery to pay a debt. Agreeing to be your whore is a much better option than being turned into a slave.

noobtrain can you change the Hired Muscle for the Camorra cartel gang job to more than just one guy i don't see any reason why they just hire once and and everyone else just get lock out

 

[skybarbie]

noobtrain can you change the Hired Muscle for the Camorra cartel gang job to more than just one guy i don't see any reason why they just hire once and and everyone else just get lock out

There's no limit on this job. Your other gang members don't qualify for the job yet.

Recommended
High boxing skill
High shooting skill
High soldier level
Handgun

 

[doujinftw]

There's no limit on this job. Your other gang members don't qualify for the job yet.

Recommended
High boxing skill
High shooting skill
High soldier level
Handgun

oh thx for the clarification, on that note can you add in additional option to pay for them to practice in a shooting range similar to how pay for their boxing lesson? the guys were high in boxing but bit low on shooting were why they didn't get job option, and robbery at best can only train 1 guy at a time

 

[The Grifter]

oh thx for the clarification, on that note can you add in additional option to pay for them to practice in a shooting range similar to how pay for their boxing lesson? the guys were high in boxing but bit low on shooting were why they didn't get job option, and robbery at best can only train 1 guy at a time

You can assign them to train shooting the same way as boxing. I think you have to make sure you gave them all necessary firearms to train with - handgun, shotgun, automatic and sniper rifle.

 

[doujinftw]

You can assign them to train shooting the same way as boxing. I think you have to make sure you gave them all necessary firearms to train with - handgun, shotgun, automatic and sniper rifle.

25k sniper rilfle for each individual at early game where you doesnt even have a factory to be able just throw money away, just so the goons can go practice shooting? is there something wrong with this picture or it just me?

 

[KhaiFirst]

oh i thought game is Finnish a year ago.. well download replay again

 

[skybarbie]

25k sniper rilfle for each individual at early game where you doesnt even have a factory to be able just throw money away, just so the goons can go practice shooting? is there something wrong with this picture or it just me?

Both. It's expensive for sure. Early game you only need to give shooting training to one gang member to be the gunman for robberies. This same gang member can be used mid game to be assigned as a hitman and kill Mabuta. So early to mid game you only really need to do this for one gang member. The muscle job for the cartel is optional and requires a high boxing skill which takes a while.

Once you fully upgrade your first factory you'll have plenty of money to spend on guns. Until that point just train one gang member so you can do robberies.

 

[KhaiFirst]

how turn off birth control on Slave? and why is block ? slave is a property.

 

[kurosx]

and why is block ?

https://thef95zone.info/threads/evil-2-v0-73-community-project.41582/post-16204259

 

[KhaiFirst]

This has been addressed several times in the past but probably long before you found the game.

Slaves are mentally broken and don't make good mothers and can't care for a baby properly so you don't have the option to get slaves pregnant. The baby has to be raised and cared for by someone.

Slaves are there for one purpose - to earn you money. They can't do that if they're having babies. In addition, you would lose money since you'd have to hire a nanny to care for the slave's children. Slaves are trained sex workers and that's all they were meant to accomplish in the Evil 2 world.

An additional problem is who the father is going to be. Slaves have to be on birth control to avoid pregnancies since they're getting their brains fucked out all day long. You'd have to take them off of birth control for a while with only you having sex with them to ensure that you are the father. That's a lot of time where the slave isn't working and costing you money (one month off of birth control with a three month pregnancy).

Where are you going to house all these slave children? Slaves belong to you. Say you get 30 slaves pregnant per year and end up with 60 slave children. That would require a huge boarding house with tons of mouths to feed and clothe! Way too expensive and is the opposite of what slaves are for.

I understand that players want complete freedom but it just doesn't make sense in the Evil 2 game world. We could allow it but then we'd be the ones going against the game world. We do our best to protect it, despite some backlash from players.

Impregnate non-sex workers all you'd like! You can find dozens of girls throughout the game that you can impregnate and have babies with. You can even do this with your drug dealing and drug courier whores.

Nursery factory hired nanny / and hired A pediatrician is a medical doctor who manages the physical, behavioral, and mental care of children from birth until age 18.

IRL there country gov use this Nursery care build a Loyal soldier to that country..

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[KhaiFirst]

well MC got $$ buy Orphan center also.. max efficency add fund hired nanny and pediatrician doctor also FOOD.