VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Mini-Sode: Blue Valentine] [NeonGhosts]

[Akabakka]

That was Brent's idea. I think it's perfectly fine to get pissed off at him for trying to get money using his girlfriend's ass, but you're effectively leaving out his role in this, and focusing all anger on Nicki who, as we know from the story, simply isn't very capable of telling her shit boyfriends "no".

No i'm not and he's a POS anyway. And you're projecting some idea that I'm furious about her or something. I directly told you that i understand her being desperate, uncomfortable and pressured by that idiot on top. But it does not turn this into something right ... what she did was still iffy as far as friendship is involved. I don't see how it's impossible to acknowledge that. People make mistakes and she did. Coming on to a friend like that, and involving seduction, for the purpose of asking money, all other circumstances asides, or even accounting those, is a bad move and shitty. And again, i even acknowledged that she could have been worse about it, if she was a gold-digger, or had zero care for the MC's friendship.

That said, a good friend will forgive and move on, which MC does, if you take the right decisions. But no she was not entirely innocent here. I find the topic handled weirdly overall when i look at the pages.... For quite a few, it's either "she's a whore, erase her with the patch", or "she is entirely innocent, you don't get her, you have no soul". I just feel that she did do some things wrong, but had her reasons. Reasons good enough for the MC to get over it and resume the friendship or even go beyond

 

[soldano]

Remaster, remake, redo...they all seem to fall along the same category, according to how others have used the meaning. But, I'm still anxiously looking forward to the rest of the story.

Yes, this break is a bit annoying. I'd rather move on. But it's not in our hands either, so we have to put up with it.

And well, the truth is that the renders of the first chapter look... bad. And the second one too. Up to about Brit's photoshoot. I don't think it's bad to rework that. But in my opinion it should have been done at the end of the story. But, again, it's not our decision.

 

[Pixillin']

Yes, this break is a bit annoying. I'd rather move on. But it's not in our hands either, so we have to put up with it.

And well, the truth is that the renders of the first chapter look... bad. And the second one too. Up to about Brit's photoshoot. I don't think it's bad to rework that. But in my opinion it should have been done at the end of the story. But, again, it's not our decision.

It’s the end of Season 1 - and Neon wants to do it before moving on because it’s not just the renders. We’re getting some new backstory for Guy and a few other bits, plus a teaser for the start of Chapter 11 (plus he’s been saying for months that he’s going to do this - it’s not a new thing). Anyway - it’s coming in early march I think, then he’s moving on to Season 2.

 

[soldano]

What the hell do you think Nikki was doing? She was asking for a loan from somebody she wasn't on the best terms with. Hell she even dressed the part. I get that y'all want to defend Nikki, but cmon!

Nicky and Guy were actually on good terms. The thing is that Guy was, and still is depending on the gameplay, a fucking SIMP. Brent knows it. Nicky knows it. And that's why they decide to go ask him for money.

You, as a player, can change Guy's SIMP attitude. And you can turn the humiliation that every SIMP carries inside, into hatred. And rape and humiliate Nicky. Or just be a real man, and stop simping, without raping or blackmailing Nicky either. Or you can continue being a fucking SIMP.

In any case, I pretty much agree that it's indefensible that Nicky "only goes to see Guy as a friend." No, no. Nicky goes to Guy's house to milk his wallet. Nicky is like all streamers, instagramers, E-Girls, etc... who take advantage of the weakness of men with little self-esteem to make a living out of it.

And as you can see in my signature, I like Nicky. She's one of my favorite characters in FiN. But that doesn't mean I don't see her for who she really is.

 

[Dessolos]

In any case, I pretty much agree that it's indefensible that Nicky "only goes to see Guy as a friend." No, no. Nicky goes to Guy's house to milk his wallet. Nicky is like all streamers, instagramers, E-Girls, etc... who take advantage of the weakness of men with little self-esteem to make a living out of it.

And as you can see in my signature, I like Nicky. She's one of my favorite characters in FiN. But that doesn't mean I don't see her for who she really is.

I mean yeah no defending what she did. But I don't see her someone on the same level as a gold digger E-girl , thott , or whatever else. Simply because of 2 reasons one Nicki felt guilt and ashamed to the point she didn't think she deserved to be treated good or with love by Guy for taking advantage of him.

Then #2 I forgot the dollar amount be she asked Guy for significantly less than what Brent asked her to get. To me it sounded like she asked just for the exact amount needed for the debts. I feel a E-girl or whatever else that is only interested in the money wouldn't have did something like this when they could of easily gotten more out of him.

 

[Uriel ☁]

I left this thread 2 years ago, recently came back but I see the topic is the same as always

 

[soldano]

I left this thread 2 years ago, recently came back but I see the topic is the same as always

Of course, because now a remake of chapter 1 is being made and the subject comes up again.

 

[DiTo]

 

[Joshy92]

Wait, how do we see that in game?

 

[yuvce]

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Film it and send it to Jamie. See him cry like a little bitch.

 

[soprano31]

Wait, how do we see that in game?

Close your eyes,imagine the scene in your mind,
and clean your computer and the cum-filled walls afterwards..

 

[ffive]

In any case, I pretty much agree that it's indefensible that Nicky "only goes to see Guy as a friend." No, no. Nicky goes to Guy's house to milk his wallet. Nicky is like all streamers, instagramers, E-Girls, etc... who take advantage of the weakness of men with little self-esteem to make a living out of it.

I don't think anyone claims that Nicki only visits Guy as a friend. Of course not because, newsflash, she's in deep shit, needs money and Guy is a friend with lot of money who can help her with it, easily.

But the whole spin on the "milk his wallet, e-girl" thing? That's misogynist bullshit and a lot of projection for the most part. None of the little bitches crying about bad Nicki would ever think that if she was a male friend and came to make identical request. "Oh, he came to milk my wallet because he knows i'm a simp. He's preying on poor weak men who can't resist his wiles, wah wah wah".

But hey, a girl has a vagina and some really just can't see past it.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I don't think anyone claims that Nicki only visits Guy as a friend. Of course not because, newsflash, she's in deep shit, needs money and Guy is a friend with lot of money who can help her with it, easily.

But the whole spin on the "milk his wallet, e-girl" thing? That's misogynist bullshit and a lot of projection for the most part. None of the little bitches crying about bad Nicki would ever think that if she was a male friend and came to make identical request. "Oh, he came to milk my wallet because he knows i'm a simp. He's preying on poor weak men who can't resist his wiles, wah wah wah".

But hey, a girl has a vagina and some really just can't see past it.

Now, it's misogynistic to call out Nikki for what she's doing. Never mind that everybody's already conceded that Brent is a piece of shit. If you want to play that game I'd call you a misandrist for constantly bringing men into the debate when it's about Nikki's actions. But I won't, I'll just use the facts, she had no use for Guy or his friendship until she needed money and then she "made time" for him. If you need to hurl insults at people just for stating facts, so be it.

 

[The_Undying]

 

[Maviarab]

Guys...you know this whole bullshit is just that...right?

There's a reason the entrie first chapter is being reworked...because it just doesn't...work (see what I did there). None of it came across exactly how Neon wanted it to...all this back and forth (since day 1) is going to be moot when the rework (eventually) happens.

It was months (approx 6 iirc) they have not spoke since Guy quit his job. Them not speaking is on both of them. But she does what she does...and it doesn't look good, at all. But that's going to change.

 

[DiTo]

 

[Great asshole XD]

i am still waiting the real update and not some tease to say later "i did update it for valentines day"

 

[soldano]

I don't think anyone claims that Nicki only visits Guy as a friend. Of course not because, newsflash, she's in deep shit, needs money and Guy is a friend with lot of money who can help her with it, easily.

But the whole spin on the "milk his wallet, e-girl" thing? That's misogynist bullshit and a lot of projection for the most part. None of the little bitches crying about bad Nicki would ever think that if she was a male friend and came to make identical request. "Oh, he came to milk my wallet because he knows i'm a simp. He's preying on poor weak men who can't resist his wiles, wah wah wah".

But hey, a girl has a vagina and some really just can't see past it.

If Nicki was a man, and Guy was gay and in love with Nicki (male), it would be exactly the same. Do you understand now?

 

[Green83rry]

i am still waiting the real update and not some tease to say later "i did update it for valentines day"

Oh no!

Neon took a totally undeserved holiday break, spent time during the break brainstorming anyway, and then hit us with some short "did it for Valentine's Day" update. I expected the chapter 1 glow up AND the new chapter to be done by now!

What an absolute milker!

/s

 

[sad564a5s4654]

Is there a forced relationship in the game or can we reject any character we want?