VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

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GenericName134

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Thank you for engaging in this discussion with me. I've put everything in the first post behind spoilers because it does kinda spoil the entire event.
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This ignores a large part of the story, SLAVERY IS BAD. One of the biggest themes in this game is slavery and its effects on this world, the good and the bad. Why would MC preach elves should be equal, or treat Android as an equal and then turn completely around and enslave an ENTIRE sub species of elves?? Lin would probably run the fuck away and you can't really tell her "Oh we'll work on making a free state for them" because Cornwall would laugh in your face. That island is better than a gold mine.
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I'm not convinced by your argument here. Sure, the game is trying to paint slavery as a bad thing but also you can't say the mc is preaching equality when stuff like the puppetmaster and the slave route exist. I'm going to ignore the former since it's not cannon. The slave route is frankly disgusting! I don't know how you can say the mc preaches equality, the shit he does to Nia is horrible. And I don't wanna hear it's revenge for the bat. The player is just being marginally better then other slave owners. It also doesn't follow the other theme of the game as well, which is that the hotel is a home for (women) who are in need and fall back on everyone else in the hotel as safety net. The slave route so far goes against that.

I don't know what you had planned, but showing people that elves have culture won't convince slave owners that elves aren't animals. Ending slavery is gonna be difficult and then there is still racism to deal with. I wonder what you have planned for the racism and slavery plots.

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Again, these are just my thoughts. I appreciate that you took the time to even respond, let alone take these long ass posts seriously

Also love route when?
 
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I think the enslavement of an entire species opened up an entire can of worms. It will be extremely difficult to satisfactory resolve unless this game goes on and on and on. History has shown freedom to be extremely bloody.

I feel one if the post above offers the best solution. Rather than an end to slavery, it is Lin's slavery that is resolved and the hotel becomes an underground railroad of sorts.
 
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Mmushy said:
I think the enslavement of an entire species opened up an entire can of worms. It will be extremely difficult to satisfactory resolve unless this game goes on and on and on. History has shown freedom to be extremely bloody.

I feel one if the post above offers the best solution. Rather than an end to slavery, it is Lin's slavery that is resolved and the hotel becomes an underground railroad of sorts.
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I have huge things planned
 
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I dunno dude. The way the mc initiates sex with them on that route seems kinda rapey. While Nia might be into it, I can't say Sylvia is.

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Mmushy said:
I think the enslavement of an entire species opened up an entire can of worms. It will be extremely difficult to satisfactory resolve unless this game goes on and on and on. History has shown freedom to be extremely bloody.

I feel one if the post above offers the best solution. Rather than an end to slavery, it is Lin's slavery that is resolved and the hotel becomes an underground railroad of sorts.
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It kinda feels that story is going that way.
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For all the shit I give Runey now, when he says he plans something big, I have no reason not to believe it will. He hasn't let us down so far
 
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Really, soon as I saw her she seemed to me to be a plant by the queen to spy on us in the cages.
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I thought that at first too, but then we learned about the fairies, who would have been able to spy on us and report back much more easily. The elf would not have had any way to report back to her until we left.
That said, she could have been there to help get us talking, and to guide our discussions in certain ways, so that the fairies had something to report, not that she knew about that, but the way the queen spoke, I am working under the assumption that not only do the fairies do most things for her like that, but also that most, if not all, of the elves have no idea. Sylvia seemed to be closer to her than many, and she clearly had no idea.
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I make polls after every update, they aren't meant to mean much.
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But they are fun.
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I have huge things planned
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I dunno dude. The way the mc initiates sex with them on that route seems kinda rapey. While Nia might be into it, I can't say Sylvia is.
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While I admit, I haven't seen that route, other than the sex parts from someone's save they shared, Sylvia is a tsundere, and a known liar, it's hard to tell what she is 'into'. lol
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It kinda feels that story is going that way.
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For all the shit I give Runey now, when he says he plans something big, I have no reason not to believe it will. He hasn't let us down so far
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I had been thinking along that line myself for some time. IT would take a lot of work, and far more land than he has at the moment, but Kali is talking him into expanding already, though not in that direction, but it would be a nice use.

In the meantime, it would be nice to use Nia and whatever people she may or may not have atm, to steal abused elves, that he could hide or ship off to one of the nations where they are free. Obviously sending them to the High Elves would not be good, but I Am sure they could find a place with the resources they will have access to soon.
 
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I dunno dude. The way the mc initiates sex with them on that route seems kinda rapey. While Nia might be into it, I can't say Sylvia is.
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He definitely abuses his power, but I make sure to write it in a way that shows the girls not resisting. Unenthusiastic consent is still consent and is something a lot of sex workers do. It's sort of a "wish I didn't have to, but I should." type of thing. Either because they need money or because their situation is unfortunate enough like in the case of Sylvia. If Sylvia really didn't want something sexual, she would just say No, and there's nothing MC would do about it. Well, maybe try to convince of course! Or threaten a light punishment like maid work or spankings.
 
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It's good that we have the option to pick either route, even if there's no love route to speak of yet. A bleeding heart like me wouldn't be able to stomach the idea of "abusing" any of them. Unless the queen ends up as one, then all morals go right out the window (but only for her).
 
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Runey said:
He definitely abuses his power, but I make sure to write it in a way that shows the girls not resisting. Unenthusiastic consent is still consent and is something a lot of sex workers do. It's sort of a "wish I didn't have to, but I should." type of thing. Either because they need money or because their situation is unfortunate enough like in the case of Sylvia. If Sylvia really didn't want something sexual, she would just say No, and there's nothing MC would do about it. Well, maybe try to convince of course! Or threaten a light punishment like maid work or spankings.
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Ok this reasoning is sound. And also the game isn't forcing me to be a dick to them so whatever. Do you have a way of tying that route with the hotel means family theme?
 
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GenericName134 said:
Ok this reasoning is sound. And also the game isn't forcing me to be a dick to them so whatever. Do you have a way of tying that route with the hotel means family theme?
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No, that route is meant more for people who think "I don't care who you are, but you're hot so I want sex scenes".

The story and meaningful things will come from the love route.
 
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Is there a way to switch between slave and love paths for the elves by editing the console or anything? Would like to see the new content but don't have a save for that route and don't want to replay from the beginning.
 
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ankhtar said:
It's good that we have the option to pick either route, even if there's no love route to speak of yet. A bleeding heart like me wouldn't be able to stomach the idea of "abusing" any of them. Unless the queen ends up as one, then all morals go right out the window (but only for her).
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Something is definitely up with the queen. She's too cartoonishly evil. The same way Felicity and Emma were. We just gotta bide our time.
 
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What are you guys on about? Whats this future, toy master, nobody wins thing? Are you guys talking about the in game VR fake story lines? Or is this a comic you made for contributors?
 
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