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PeanutGallery

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I don't think most of the objections to AI art have a whole lot to do with the uncanny valley these days, but rather the samey appearances, soulless expressions, and ethical considerations related to model training and the replacement of traditional CGs.
 

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The Silica Animus is a twisted mockery and perversion of the Human soul, always treacherous and insane.
 

throwaway5655

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ethical considerations related to model training
On this website where a lot of games are made from stolen assets and then we go pirate the Patreon build so we can play Underage Sister Corruptor for free, it's about ethics in machine learning...

AI in games is at the start of going through what CGI in movies did a couple decades ago. Useful budding technology in the hands of a good artist that also allows the worst and most tasteless to shovel out glossy fake looking shit in excess until audiences started saying "I hate CGI, that movie was bad because it had too much CGI in it, not another CGI-fest". To this day filmmakers always try to hype up how many practical effects they're using because people are still so mentally scarred by all the slop.
I love seeing a use of it like this where OP is img2imging his own sketches with his own custom style, but people will have a certain reaction the instant they see 'AI CG' regardless.
 
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On this website where a lot of games are made from stolen assets and then we go pirate the Patreon build so we can play Underage Sister Corruptor for free, it's about ethics in machine learning...

AI in games is at the start of going through what CGI in movies did a couple decades ago. Useful budding technology in the hands of a good artist that also allows the worst and most tasteless to shovel out glossy fake looking shit in excess until audiences started saying "I hate CGI, that movie was bad because it had too much CGI in it, not another CGI-fest". To this day filmmakers always try to hype up how many practical effects they're using because people are still so mentally scarred by all the slop.
I love seeing a use of it like this where OP is img2imging his own sketches with his own custom style, but people will have a certain reaction the instant they see 'AI CG' regardless.
Come on...you can't deny the AI CG in this game is noticeably more generic than the original art.
CGI is not comparable because that's actually created by an artist, AI is just ripping off all the art its been fed to create "new" art, or overlay existing art.
 

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Is there any more content with Herscz or should I just let them be executed? Also, is Herscz a guy or a girl?
 

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Weird question but is the name of the Sector the game takes place in ever stated? I've been trying to catalogue all the game's original setting lore cause I think it's super unique. I might use it for a Warhammer RP campaign.
 

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I've played all the Cresynt storylines so far. I've been following since initial release, great game so far.
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And will I ever get my own servo skull? Dammit I'm a high ranking official, I want my entourage of hooded scribes swinging incensed braziers and floating machines.
 

PeanutGallery

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I would if I have a penis.
Pssh. We all know there are no girls on the Internet! 4chan said so, and it never lies.

On this website where a lot of games are made from stolen assets and then we go pirate the Patreon build so we can play Underage Sister Corruptor for free, it's about ethics in machine learning...

AI in games is at the start of going through what CGI in movies did a couple decades ago. Useful budding technology in the hands of a good artist that also allows the worst and most tasteless to shovel out glossy fake looking shit in excess until audiences started saying "I hate CGI, that movie was bad because it had too much CGI in it, not another CGI-fest". To this day filmmakers always try to hype up how many practical effects they're using because people are still so mentally scarred by all the slop.
I love seeing a use of it like this where OP is img2imging his own sketches with his own custom style, but people will have a certain reaction the instant they see 'AI CG' regardless.
Which is why I had "people don't like rendering artists irrelevant in bulk" as one of several reasons, not the entirety. If you go through the threads here that have AI CGs in them, you'll see most of the complaints (when they show up at all) are with how it looks cheap or the same as other AI generated content, rather than being an ethical objection. I included it for completeness' sake. I'm well aware that this is a site dedicated to "sailing the high seas," as the saying goes.
 

throwaway5655

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Which is why I had "people don't like rendering artists irrelevant in bulk" as one of several reasons, not the entirety.
No problem, I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to tear down your whole post over one bit I cherrypicked as the weakest, I just wanted to comment on that one bit and leave alone the rest. I agreed in the rest of my post that AI is inundating the market with cheap and samey content, so it's true those complaints are the most common complaints - my further point was that after so much slop happens they become the automatic and reflexive complaints no matter what someone's doing with AI.

(And I'm not here to say OP has reached the peak of non-generic good AI, but if the spectrum is direly unattractive granny faces vs the front page of CivitAI vs what he's starting to cook, let him cook).
 
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No problem, I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to tear down your whole post over one bit I cherrypicked as the weakest, I just wanted to comment on that one bit and leave alone the rest. I agreed in the rest of my post that AI is inundating the market with cheap and samey content, so it's true those complaints are the most common complaints - my further point was that after so much slop happens they become the automatic and reflexive complaints no matter what someone's doing with AI.

(And I'm not here to say OP has reached the peak of non-generic good AI, but if the spectrum is direly unattractive granny faces vs the front page of CivitAI vs what he's starting to cook, let him cook).
Because developer ain't using such thing as dangerous, heretical and basphemous as Abominable Intelligence to do his work. He's using but a holy machine spirit to aid him is his holy craft in the service of the Imperium.

Joke aside, AI is just a tool, just as much as CGI was back then, and before that a camera. It's the man behind the tool who is worth of judgement, be it hate or be it praise. Saying blindly "I won't play 'cuz AI!" is simply ignorant behaviour, because someone is using a tool to ease his pain or speed up his craft.

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BTW, I'm wondering when GW is going to strike this one with thier Zero Tolerance Policy. After all, they do care to make many things canon.
 
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