VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[MilesEdgeworth]

A sub kane can be redeemed? (at the end of story he is neither sub neither slave)
Let's say Callista takes her away from the corporate world (to a distant part of the world)

If Kane is a sub by the end of the game, it's likely because the player wants Kane to be a sub no need for redemption.

Least is only a sexual sub...not a downtrodden abused plaything (though she does try...you can steer her to a more romantic approach though). Plus...you get Pat on that route too...and Alyssia...and god knows who else Alessa might tell lmaohahahaha

Pat's an opportunist at the end of the day, she'll go with the person who has the most power and Celeste's fine crazy ass is the only alessandra hookup I want. But yea I don't even want my Kane to be a secret sub. I want him bending people to his will.

 

[motseer]

Yes you can...her path is going to be very long and complicated though and not easy to get. Very specific conditions will need to be met.



Honestly, getting 5 evil points up to Ch5 is incredibly simple. Easiest way is be an ass to Zach heh...but plenty of opportunities....just pick your flavour I guess like any good paragade run (one of the best ways is take Pat's deal...fuck her on the stairs...evil points a plenty there for you for no cost to anyone and you get a sex scene and in Pat's good graces...win/win). Once got them feel free to go all in on being good again...doesn't affect that route (yet at least).

One last clarification, just to be sure, Dominique MUST be a bad girl for this scenario right?

 

[Popata20]

If Kane is a sub by the end of the game, it's likely because the player wants Kane to be a sub no need for redemption.


Pat's an opportunist at the end of the day, she'll go with the person who has the most power and Celeste's fine crazy ass is the only alessandra hookup I want. But yea I don't even want my Kane to be a secret sub. I want him bending people to his will.

Thank you for your answer. I thought there might be an ending where Callista helps her son. ( for Callista said: "Don't lose hope wherever you are , I will be there for you".)

 

[motseer]

Im currently in my sentimental phase, so Im about reuniting Kane with his family. So my current targets are Olivia, Angelica, Alessandra (though I know I wont be able to get her without being a sub) and dom. I would like Juliette's fine ass too, but unforch the sis don't like her too much

In the "family" sense I like the idea of pursuing Elena's dream family... hehe... that has nothing to do with Elena being one of the few seemingly available MILFs...

 

[Maviarab]

A sub kane can be redeemed? (at the end of story he is neither sub neither slave)
Let's say Callista takes her away from the corporate world (to a distant part of the world)

Spoiler: From Discord Today

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One last clarification, just to be sure, Dominique MUST be a bad girl for this scenario right?

It's the conversation with her at the pool that puts her on this path yes. (this happens before the evil choice for her right before she talks to Cole)

 

[w123t4]

Yes you can...her path is going to be very long and complicated though and not easy to get. Very specific conditions will need to be met.

May I ask was it already started or still not implant in the game yet?

 

[Maviarab]

May I ask was it already started or still not implant in the game yet?

I would guess...it has already started yes....you just don't know it has. For now...just don't have negative points with her. Tess also states this regarding her path:

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The above comment was spoilered out in Discord btw...so it's massively relevent. I can tell you right now...Kiyomi has no specific flags related to any Kane romance unless other specific flags for her previously will be reused...*shrugs*...

 

[Popata20]

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It's the conversation with her at the pool that puts her on this path yes. (this happens before the evil choice for her right before she talks to Cole)

You can safely be called an expert on the Karlsson gambit. (your post about masks is a masterpiece without a doubt) Thank you

 

[Stan5851]

Least is only a sexual sub...not a downtrodden abused plaything (though she does try...you can steer her to a more romantic approach though). Plus...you get Pat on that route too...and Alyssia...and god knows who else Alessa might tell lmaohahahaha

I don't know, when I ran this scene (in the Sancho gallery), I didn't see anything sexual about Kane eating dog food off the floor that someone (Alessa or Alyssa) had peed in...I guess I was looking in the wrong place...I just made sure that this kind of femdom is just as unacceptable to me as what is considered more hardcore (K4 and below)...Although, of course, everyone is different and maybe Miles will see it differently.

 

[Maviarab]

I don't know, when I ran this scene (in the Sancho gallery), I didn't see anything sexual about Kane eating dog food off the floor that someone (Alessa or Alyssa) had peed in...I guess I was looking in the wrong place...I just made sure that this kind of femdom is just as unacceptable to me as what is considered more hardcore (K4 and below)...Although, of course, everyone is different and maybe Miles will see it differently.

Then you saw the wrong scene. Once on the SS path and you are alone with Alessa (the SS interactions) there 2 choices for every 'scene'...(both actually Alessa choices...not Kane's)..she can be cruel...or nicer (the latter giving love points). I'm pretty sure the dog food scene with Alyssa(?) also has a variant from memory.

You can safely be called an expert on the Karlsson gambit. (your post about masks is a masterpiece without a doubt) Thank you

Thank you for the kind words.

I'm not infallible though and do forget stuff and ocassionally, do get something wrong but I try to be as factual and knowledgeable as possible, on both paths (as there is a lot of info/lore/backstory available on the SubPath you do not find out on the domPath)...and vice-versa.

Silver_Crow117, our resident Delilah lover is the expert around here on the SubPath though, I play those routes purely for the afformentioned reasons alone but I'll nearly always remit myself to his knowledge of the SubPath (and it's newer upcoming branches) as they are paths I honestly have zero interest in (as a player).

 

[w123t4]

I would guess...it has already started yes....you just don't know it has. For now...just don't have negative points with her. Tess also states this regarding her path:

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Thanks for answering! But while talking to you I suddenly remember that not only kiyomi but also olivia can build a good relationship towards both kane and seth, will it be possible for something like me getting ntr by myself which kane and seth fighting for the same woman?

 

[Maviarab]

Thanks for answering! But while talking to you I suddenly remember that not only kiyomi but also olivia can build a good relationship towards both kane and seth, will it be possible for something like me getting ntr by myself which kane and seth fighting for the same woman?

Extremely unlikely I would say...extremely...however, there might be a chance Kiyomi prefers Olivia over you...or maybe you can share them, or they share you...?

There is a Sis Kiyomi variable....after all....

Jus' sayin...

Will also say, on the SubPath (can't recall if happens on all K ranks or not though, Silver could tell you), there is a very interesting scene with Olivia, Kiyomi, Kane and Seth...

 

[Popata20]

Then you saw the wrong scene. Once on the SS path and you are alone with Alessa (the SS interactions) there 2 choices for every 'scene'...(both actually Alessa choices...not Kane's)..she can be cruel...or nicer (the latter giving love points). I'm pretty sure the dog food scene with Alyssa(?) also has a variant.


Thank you for the kind words.

I'm not infallible though and do forget stuff and ocassionally, do get something wrong but I try to be as factual and knowledgeable as possible, on both paths (as there is a lot of info/lore/backstory available on the SubPath you do not find out on the domPath)...and vice-versa.

Silver, our resident Delilah lover is the expert around here on the SubPath though, I play those routes purely for the afformentioned reasons alone but I'll nearly always remit myself to his knowledge of the SubPath (and it's newer upcoming branches) as they are paths I honestly have zero interest in.

I'm also only interested in sub path because of Callista (what kind of master plan can she come up with if her son fails)
Reading your post I'll be watching Silver threads too.

 

[w123t4]

Extremely unlikely I would say...extremely...however, there might be a chance Kiyomi prefers Olivia over you...or maybe you can share them, or they share you...?

There is a Sis Kiyomi variable....after all....

Jus' sayin...

Will also say, on the SubPath (can't recall if happens on akk K ranks or not though, Silver could tell you), there is a very interesting scene with Olivia, Kiyomi, Kane and Seth...

As such I want to know how the relationship will play out since there are 2(3 if you also count seth) mc in the story.
If it goes on single then it will be simple a lot, but if it goes on harem then there will be too many combination to calculate as many Li are being overlapped. What is the priority of mc's relationship towards the same LI(for example kiyomi as you said)?

 

[Stan5851]

there 2 choices for every 'scene'...(both actually Alessa choices...not Kane's)

And that's another good reason why I can't like femdom. This pathetic worm with the eyes of a scared puppy is on his knees, waiting for someone else to decide everything for him, and he can't even object or rebel.... No, Mav, it's not for me.

I can abstract and not associate myself with a character (even if only partially) when I'm playing some AVN games with a female protagonist subjected to various pressures from the outside. But in the case of playing as a male character, particularly Kane, it doesn't work that way (for me). Maybe it's just my personal immersion (as a player), but I'm used to seeing all games this way, and it's too late to change anything now. So I've had enough of the Dom route.

 

[Stan5851]

As such I want to know how the relationship will play out since there are 2(3 if you also count seth) mc in the story.
If it goes on single then it will be simple a lot, but if it goes on harem then there will be too many combination to calculate as many Li are being overlapped. What is the priority of mc's relationship towards the same LI(for example kiyomi as you said)?

If I understand your question correctly, then take a look here->#13,487

 

[Maviarab]

As such I want to know how the relationship will play out since there are 2(3 if you also count seth) mc in the story.
If it goes on single then it will be simple a lot, but if it goes on harem then there will be too many combination to calculate as many Li are being overlapped. What is the priority of mc's relationship towards the same LI(for example kiyomi as you said)?

Well currently, based on previous information, Kiyomi is only and has only ever been a T2 romance (as both I and Stan linked earlier today, with Stan posting the actual screenshot). As I mentioned earlier in one of my posts, it's unsure whether the T2's will/can co-exist with the T1's and Kiyomi has never been included in the 'other' romances section (such as Celeste with Alessa for example).

There have been hints in the past that something could happen with Olivia and Kiyomi and we know for sure, Kiyomi has a Kane romance...but how will work, overlap with anything/anyone else, your guess is as good as anyone's right now.

No, Mav, it's not for me.

Oh Stan, you know I understand perfectly Like the 'actual' SubPaths...I only have SS saves purely to see what happens and for any info dumps, though I will admit, I am kinda looking forward to the Eloise SS path...but that's just because I love her and if it's the only way to get more content with her...then...someone has to do it hahaha.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Thanks for answering! But while talking to you I suddenly remember that not only kiyomi but also olivia can build a good relationship towards both kane and seth, will it be possible for something like me getting ntr by myself which kane and seth fighting for the same woman?

I might sound a little disconnected at the moment ( I literally just donated 2 Quarts of blood) but if we’re talking about the angle of Sub Kane involved with Kiyomi, There will be the option of picking her to be subservient too! I can’t say if she’s one of those characters that’ll prefer a slave K Ranking Kane or a servant and above K Ranking Kane (I’m guessing the latter) but with Seth? I mean I could see it, I.e. Kiyomi offered to make a deal with Kane and Seth so it’s plausible for Kiyomi to have Kane and Seth underneath her… (literally I guess Lmaoo) there’s also the viper flag a-way back so that might come into consideration too. She might not be a romance for sub Kane but slave/servant is the path for Kane if you want to go with her! But who knows, she might LI a Kane in the future if Tess puts it in

Remember:
Some characters will want Kane as a Slave
Some characters will want Kane as a Servant
And some character will want Kane no matter what lvl he’s at!

also…
Depending on which faction you choose, you can choose with specific Mistress to serve, which comes with its own ordeals…. As Miss Tess mentioned today,

Spoiler: She never sneers about Delilah… :( hahaha

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If anybody has any specific questions for me about the sub path, just tag me!! It was kinda difficult reading everything without my blood

 

[PickerLewd]

I might sound a little disconnected at the moment ( I literally just donated 2 Quarts of blood)

Nooo!

Does anyone know how much that is in millilitres? I feel sick just thinking about it.

And yes, I confess, I hate needles, I can see or have a wound and lost blood without any problems, but to see or feel the blood flowing through the syringe into the tubes makes me very weak and sick .

I haven't had a blood test or been to the doctor since I was 17 .

 

[Maviarab]

Nooo!

Does anyone know how much that is in millilitres? I feel sick just thinking about it.

And yes, I confess, I hate needles, I can see or have a wound and lost blood without any problems, but to see or feel the blood flowing through the syringe into the tubes makes me very weak and sick .

I haven't had a blood test or been to the doctor since I was 17 .

Just short of 2 litres....but bear in mind, the US draw far more blood (and Plasma) than any EU hospital, Doctor or Donation Centre think is safe over here (I give blood regularly myself, but regular in the UK for example is min 3 month gap..the US has no such strict restrictions that I'm aware of, unless is done State by State. We also don't get paid for donating here as an aside).