The build was always got leak multiple time already, ever since they said they made the revice version. The leak files always up on the Furry Telegram group sooner or later the patreon post. And there is the site called kemono party with can get most of the files from Patreon. And the by pass method already available on internet. Not just here you know.
To be fair, I can't think of many developers more deserving of having their content leaked than this one. The fact that he has 1600 paid patrons after close to a decade of mooching off a project he's stalled to death is frankly disgusting.
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Well, I'm pretty sure they've known about it for quite a while now and I also don't think that it wouldn't be discovered sooner or later.
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I'm not joking when I say this, but if this game is done before 2028 then that would be an achievement greater than putting a man on the moon. Always bear in mind that this game has been in development since 2011! I'd just relax and forget about playing it anytime soon, and live healthily so you may one day get to play it. Despite it all, I fully believe they will finish it one day. Just not soon.
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Let's be real, this game will never be finished as long as the dev just want to milk the furry porn money.
They will stall as long as they can, then move on (abandon it) when it's not profitable anymore.
What they are doing should be illegal, but internet customer protection laws are seriously lacking.
It's like an infinite money glitch
There was a time when I would have agreed with you that this is abandonware, but despite it all they actually HAVE been developing pretty consistently for the past ten years, albeit at a glacial pace. Their ridiculous prioritisations would make a project manager die (why would you spend six months on programming a fight scene that's barely on for five minutes??).Let's be real, this game will never be finished as long as the dev just want to milk the furry porn money.
They will stall as long as they can, then move on (abandon it) when it's not profitable anymore.
What they are doing should be illegal, but internet customer protection laws are seriously lacking.
It's like an infinite money glitch
Also, it's not really much of a good scam if you can just pay them $3 once and receive updates for life. They openly say thats fine. The game already has several hours of content so anyone new playing it definitely gets their moneys worth. So lumping it in with all the actual scams is a bit unfair.
To all those following this project, take my advice as someone who has been monitoring it since pretty much the beginning. Enjoy it as it is, and go touch grass frequently when you're annoyed at a delay. Its worth $3 but absolutely not each month !
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It's not an abandonware (yet), and they are indeed still working on it. But the work they put into it does not match the price they are charging for.
Why did they spend six months on programming a fight scene that's barely on for five minutes?? It's because they are stalling, intentionally.
It's not as bad as Cloud Meadow or Blackgate that's straight up lying without a heart beat, but it's still gifting, it's still on the spectrum.
Anyone supporting this kind of behaviour, is either delusional, or bad at taking responsibilities.
Also, bold of you asking others to "touch grass frequently" while you are arguing with randos on a porn site.
Regarding touching grass, I'm fully aware of the irony. I don't think what I'm doing is arguing with people as I don't think anyone is really wrong to think whatever they want about this game as the whole situation is so ridiculous and unprecedented that I can find no comparison. I just don't want people to get all up in arms about this game being delayed as it won't get anyone anywhere, and there are more important things in life. Personally I visit this site here and there as I go about my day, it's good fun. Plus, I like discussing this game, I think it's overall pretty great and the art is 10/10 for me. That's worth the $3 alone.It's not an abandonware (yet), and they are indeed still working on it. But the work they put into it does not match the price they are charging for.
Why did they spend six months on programming a fight scene that's barely on for five minutes?? It's because they are stalling, intentionally.
It's not as bad as Cloud Meadow or Blackgate that's straight up lying without a heart beat, but it's still gifting, it's still on the spectrum.
Anyone supporting this kind of behaviour, is either delusional, or bad at taking responsibilities.
Also, bold of you asking others to "touch grass frequently" while you are arguing with randos on a porn site.
Regarding them stalling intentionally, maybe they are? Personally I think it's more like someone just working on a passion project, there are no deadlines and they do it just for fun. Like someone building a model train set in their house, or playing Animal Crossing for far too long. Of course, the difference is there's money involved here, but for me what makes the difference is that they're not making you pay each month to access the game. You CAN but you don't have to. If they did charge $3 a month that would be fairly certain scam activity as they are fully incentivsed to stall as much as possible. Also, when they complete this game, they have so much content they can add as DLCs that they could work on it until the end of time, so the money would just keep flowing.
Personally, I give them my $3 a month. If that pays for the great art and fun gameplay that updates every few months, that's worth it to me. I spend a lot more on a lot less! Would I reccomend doing it? Hell no, spend your money somewhere else. Am I delusional? Probably, but I still have my fun. Everyone else, my $3 covers you!
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The arts are great I'll give you that. NullGhost is racking in money with his own art Patreon for a reason.
If it's a passion project, they will not sell its meager update for however amount.
$3 is a not a lot as a single transaction, but it racks up very fast as a monthly per patron payment.
And what value does Kemo Coliseum offer for this $3? It could be worse, but it's still not good.
Btw, They paywall the game, you can't play unless you pay at least $3 a month - or play a cracked leak.
There're tons of genuine devs doing passion projects, some are totally free with optional financial support options, some with optional paid early access but still free.
There're also tons of genuine devs doing business, they sell games they made, providing equal value to the money they are charging for.
Kemo Coliseum on the other hand, is doing it for money, and with shady practices at that.
If you are charging people for however amount you set up, you have the Obligation to deliver in the timely manner.
Selling has a totally different dichotomy from donation / supporting.
It's very easy to see if the dev are genuine, or bad actors with malicious intent, as long as you look at what they are doing, not what they are saying nor what you wish it is.
I can give them the benefit of the doubt, that they still plan to make the game, just went greedy on monetisation (who don't like free money for doing nothing?
)Not like some others that's purely using their "game" as a vehicle to milk as much as they can.
But that's already a very buyer beware stance.
At the End of the day, you are responsible for your own money and time. Who are we to condemn you for where you want to waste them on. Not to mention value proposition is a subjective topic.
BUT we also don't hv the obligation to hold onto Your Value whatever you set it.
I'm just here to call out what the dev is doing, for anyone who cares but failed to see thru.
BTW, your $3 won't cover anyone. It's straight into their pocket, not into the project.
Unless you mean you are the one who's doing the leak, Then I apologise for my stupid misunderstanding,
This really reminds me of those gacha players, hving the power fantasy that they think just cuz they pay (more) than anyone else, they are the sole reason the game exist - In a sense, they are not wrong, the game exist this way cuz the dev can milk them without much effort involved. Even funnier the devs are holding them hostage, "if we don't pay, the game will die".
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I mean, i haven't payed in years and still get updates through the itch app just like they said. And as for them taking a lot of time to program combat and stuff, i don't remember where it was or if he still thinks the same but originally he wanted to make a good gem game with porn in it rather than have it just fade out like other games do. Between that and the fact they have been working on it for so long is why they have switched engines a few times now, and while i'd love if it had just been finished by now i don't have a problem with them trying to make a game they like that plays well. Not to mention better art. At this point they are basically star citizen, except i like this game more.
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Someone finding the post and getting the full body, in case there some kind of lock down being mentioned in the full post. What, you think I'm naive and that people in this thread would actually care?And what you wish to achieve by posting it here?
Here my save data for the newest build up to the end of Chapter 5 Revise.
Warning: The savedata folder take up to 20 Slots! Back up your save folder before overwrite it!
Few Notes:
1. At first, I tried to go with: Each slot is the begin of intermission part from each chapters, so you can dates anyone your choice. But, the limit of save files are 30 slots, might not enough space, so I kinda give up at middle of chapter 3. So, now after that, it just tournament fight.
2. Volga has around 500k golds, so you can buy skills or equipment for your heart content, even from chapter 1.
3. Volga in each chapter got enough over level so you can "Avoid" 100% monster in the dungeon unlock in that chapter. But, you still grind for the next chapter yourself.
4. The 19th Slot: Chapter 5 intermission is the night before the Elephant's punishment fight. It was change from the normal main quest (Hang out with the panda guy) to the intermission day. Since his punishment still not yet add into the game (they promised like 2 years ago before the revise) so I keep 1 save file just incase, so you can unlock it later (in case you don't want to use the debug menu to unlock all the CGs and Scenes).
5. There is a bug from Save/Load. If you overwrite the already exit save file, there was small chance it will delete that save file, and you have to save again. Specially, if you are at the end of a chapter (happend more on chapter 4 and 5).
Also, here the google link for save file, incase you can't dl from the forum.
Warning: The savedata folder take up to 20 Slots! Back up your save folder before overwrite it!
Few Notes:
1. At first, I tried to go with: Each slot is the begin of intermission part from each chapters, so you can dates anyone your choice. But, the limit of save files are 30 slots, might not enough space, so I kinda give up at middle of chapter 3. So, now after that, it just tournament fight.
2. Volga has around 500k golds, so you can buy skills or equipment for your heart content, even from chapter 1.
3. Volga in each chapter got enough over level so you can "Avoid" 100% monster in the dungeon unlock in that chapter. But, you still grind for the next chapter yourself.
4. The 19th Slot: Chapter 5 intermission is the night before the Elephant's punishment fight. It was change from the normal main quest (Hang out with the panda guy) to the intermission day. Since his punishment still not yet add into the game (they promised like 2 years ago before the revise) so I keep 1 save file just incase, so you can unlock it later (in case you don't want to use the debug menu to unlock all the CGs and Scenes).
5. There is a bug from Save/Load. If you overwrite the already exit save file, there was small chance it will delete that save file, and you have to save again. Specially, if you are at the end of a chapter (happend more on chapter 4 and 5).
Also, here the google link for save file, incase you can't dl from the forum.
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So you can just use your Itch account to play as long as you had paid once? Is it intentional, or they just can't figure out how to actually charge properly?
Still doesn't change what I said. Much better if it's the former tho.
Oh and don't compare KC to Star Citizen, can't say for sure what KC Dev's true intention is. But they are not as bad a scam as Star Citizen.
Do you know Scam Citizen sell ship "design" for $48k, and only to people who've already spend $5k+, don't actually work on 80% of those designs, then start to sell new ones? For a game that doesn't even have an Alpha build?
Then why didn't you say any of that in your first post? Which looks like those "justice warrior" who's trying to condemn people for leaking the game.
Tho I don't think they can "lock down" unless they implement some really annoying and obscure DRM method
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It's been consistent in deleting my save files, it got infuriating when I lost hours of time when it deleted my earlier save.
It's how it's supposed to be. The pricing or w/e might have changed over time since i did it back in 2019, but back then it was support for 2-3 months or so and they treated it like you bought it so even if you stopped supporting you could still get game updates, just not the monthly report. Even now their pledge says " *You'll have access to this and future updates even after you stop supporting the project. " although i don't know if there is still a min limit. It all goes through the app though since it pulls updates from the patron version of the site, but i don't know how that works on the back end. Edit: Yeah, on the actual itch site it shows it as 'owned' so you can download it there too without the app, although i don't know how it authenticates that way since i use the app for it.
This is one of those games i've been following since before they even had the beta/prototype of it out and i keep copies of everything i play so i have versions going back to 2015 for this back when it was just past the rio escort mission/cg. While i haven't played much in the past couple years, it's something i wanted to get back into. As for comparing it to Star Citizen, i was a kickstarter backer of that back in 2012 at the $60 tier i think so i am well aware of it's history up until 5-10 years ago when i stopped caring. I was comparing more of the endless changes/improvements and feature creep they both have been through rather than them seeking money.
I didn't compare it to Blackgate since that is a game i followed monthly since update 0.4 and loved, until he drove it into the lake and drown it while still pulling in cash. Instead i hope this game turns out more like Extracurricular Activities where it takes a long time but ends up good, or at least good enough. It's probably mostly because it's a game from back in the days when we didin't have many options for games like this, mainly just the ones above and morenatsu, so i want to see it finished. If you want to see other stuff that kept me alive back then i can dig out my copy of Common Grounds, which was a nightmare to play yet i somehow liked it because it's all we had.
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