Armin

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All the endings ignore the concept of you possibly impregnating the girls after the events of the story. It would make sense, but it would also be confusing and would render the act of impregnating them in gameplay somewhat meaningless.

Sure, most of these relationships are probably going to end up with babies in the end anyway, but the epilogues don't deal with that possibility because they are more concerned with the consequences of things you have done, not things you might possibly do in the future.
You could make the chosen girl(s) pregnant regardless while the others are only pregnant if you did it during the game.

Something else I was wondering about, you need to seduce (and thus betray) multiple girls just to train your skills in the base game, but you'll already have those skills in NG+, so will it be possible to get a pure single-girl ending there? I think currently, assuming you have all the skill and knowledge flags through NG+ you'd still need to seduce Nell and Lilith at minimum to win?
 
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Belle

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Something else I was wondering about, you need to seduce (and thus betray) multiple girls just to train your skills in the base game, but you'll already have those skills in NG+, so will it be possible to get a pure single-girl ending there? I think currently, assuming you have all the skill and knowledge flags through NG+ you'd still need to seduce Nell and Lilith at minimum to win?
Well, first of all, you won't actually betray anyone unless you deliberately become their boyfriend. The biggest reason that is a problem right now is that charisma is tied to reaching a romance state with one or two of the girls (Evelyn and possibly Samarra), and you need every point the game is able to offer you. In the future, you should also be able to obtain charisma from both Callie and Sister Agnes, and I will make sure not to require a romance for that. I also suspect I might rethink Samarra's results a little, which should hopefully mean you can gain charisma there without going all the way with her. So, by the time this game is complete, you should be able to pick one girl and stick with her without breaking the heart of anyone else.

It will never be possible to complete this game while only having sex with one of the girls, however. I did put some thought and effort into that idea earlier in development because of player feedback, but I eventually had to put that concept aside as it conflicted too heavily with my planned story.

The purpose behind the open-ended nature of the game and the time limit was always that the player would have to pick and choose what to focus on, offering multiple ways to go about things. It's supposed to be really difficult (but not impossible) to have sex with all the girls on your first playthrough. You are supposed to pick a favorite, but it was never my intention to have the MC be entirely faithful to her. On the other hand, you're not expected to make promises you can't keep, so as long as you make good choices, nobody should be too pissed at you at the end.
 

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OK, now it is my time to feel like a n00b. I have restarted to fix what I did wrong (oh, so wrong) in the first playthrough, but now I can remember how to progress with Callie.

I have done her small secret and she is giving me private fashion shows with the leather bikini.
I remember that next step is connected to Sister Agnes, but she never shows up, and the Church is not available yet.
If I choose "stay put" when she goes to change, I get a hint by thinking "maybe there's something to look at in this room while I wait". But then I conclude "Nope. Looks like there's nothing to do but to wait patiently".
If I go to her place at night, it's locked and I'm not supposed to disturb her.
I have met her on the Upper Training Grounds sunbathing naked, but nothing specific happened after that.

What is it that I am missing...?
 

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BTW, now when I am going through all the different steps again, I am so impressed with how all the little details are correct.
Usually, the combinatorics will bite you once or twice, especially in a game with as many degrees of freedom as this.

But if Evelyn has taken her top off for the massage, it will end with "Evely puts her top back on".
And if she was naked, it will end with "She puts her underwear back on".

I've seen stuff like this go wrong so many times, I wouldn't have complained.
People being in two places at the same time. Or saying something that belongs to the romance route when you are not romancing.

But not in this game. Impressive.
 

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BTW, now when I am going through all the different steps again, I am so impressed with how all the little details are correct.
Usually, the combinatorics will bite you once or twice, especially in a game with as many degrees of freedom as this.

But if Evelyn has taken her top off for the massage, it will end with "Evely puts her top back on".
And if she was naked, it will end with "She puts her underwear back on".

I've seen stuff like this go wrong so many times, I wouldn't have complained.
People being in two places at the same time. Or saying something that belongs to the romance route when you are not romancing.

But not in this game. Impressive.
To be fair, I had to fix two bugs in that particular section in two different updates. The whole dressing/undressing system in that scene is incredibly complicated.
 

kotte

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To be fair, I had to fix two bugs in that particular section in two different updates. The whole dressing/undressing system in that scene is incredibly complicated.
I totally get that.

I have never thought about making a game myself, because I have no interest and no talent when it comes to creating the graphics.
But when I play a game, rather than thinking "how can I win this", I find myself thinking "how is this implemented?".
Many of the problems that you face in game programming are so much more intriguing than the problems you need to solve when coding "normal" applications. And the combinatorics of advanced VN's is one such category.

I still think I have an absolutely aweome job though, getting paid for something I would do as a hobby otherwise.
 

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The other options up for voting were:
  • Perversity 6 and all night scenes.
  • Nell's tower scenes remade from scratch, plus the long-awaited threesome scene during advanced training.
  • Sister Agnes (probably not all in one update).
  • The old Fairy Queen's training sessions completed.

0.35 is the New Game Plus update. It also features big improvements to the scenes from the early game, particularly the sex scenes. I mean to bring all the sex scenes in the game up to the standards of the ones near the end, and you'll really start to see that happen now. Last, but not least, it adds quality of life improvements like the spellbook and the to-do list.
So since Perversity 6 didn't win, you won't have time to include it in the next update correct?
 

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So since Perversity 6 didn't win, you won't have time to include it in the next update correct?
That is correct. These options do not represent everything that is going to be added to the game (not even close). They were added to the poll because they are features that are so big that each one will require at least one, separate update dedicated entirely to itself. Whenever I work on any of these options, that's probably all that will be in that update.
 

Evil13

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Try the very first post of the thread. Yes, it only goes up to 0.31, but between 0.32 and 0.34, it's the endgame.
 

ajachari

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I want to see as mc king and pixi belle as queen and impregnate belle seen in this game.also need more impregnate seen like the droid.nell etc thanks
 

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I want to see as mc king and pixi belle as queen and impregnate belle seen in this game.also need more impregnate seen like the droid.nell etc thanks
pixie to be queen would require mc to finding size alteration spell ("witch" had one but mc didn't learn it). impregnating pixie is other thing (no idea if it is even possible, different species etc). new game+ might bring new impregatings but that we have to wait.
 

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new game+ might bring new impregatings but that we have to wait.
Letting you bring along spells from your previous playthrough already means that it's possible to impregnate the Fairy Queen in NG+ as early as 0.35.

Belle cannot be impregnated. Her species doesn't work that way as they are born from flowers. Something similar is true for both Erato and the Leanan Sídhe. The former because she isn't really humanoid at all, and the latter because it is implied that she is immortal.
 

jakhmonument

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Just went through the epilogue. Shame there weren't full, gallery replayable, scenes for each girl at the end, but man am I satisfied.

Hell of a great job, Belle. Going back and fleshing out side stories in NG+ is just icing on top of a *chef's kiss*.

Writing is crisp enough that I wouldn't mind seeing it go mainstream. Thanks for all the fish!
 
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