Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

[Tehemai]

Mind you I'm only halfway through the game, but why are people so friendly/unguarded with truthsayers? It seems to me the default reaction to a walking lie detector by almost all characters that know what he is should range from deep discomfort to outright persecution, regardless of perceived competence. Even family would be keeping exchange of words short or have outright policies for not answering questions. Instead everyone seems super chatty and lie openly to the only known truthsayer in town without hint of hesitation or regret. And then act surprised when he knows they're full of it.

So far the story and world building seems well crafted for this type of game, which is why this particular flaw sticks out to me as a glaring oversight. In most porn games, the plot is so full inconsistencies and fake interactions that this wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. So kudos on that.

 

[Blaq Mask]

Mind you I'm only halfway through the game, but why are people so friendly/unguarded with truthsayers? It seems to me the default reaction to a walking lie detector by almost all characters that know what he is should range from deep discomfort to outright persecution, regardless of perceived competence. Even family would be keeping exchange of words short or have outright policies for not answering questions. Instead everyone seems super chatty and lie openly to the only known truthsayer in town without hint of hesitation or regret. And then act surprised when he knows they're full of it.

So far the story and world building seems well crafted for this type of game, which is why this particular flaw sticks out to me as a glaring oversight. In most porn games, the plot is so full inconsistencies and fake interactions that this wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. So kudos on that.

For one, he's known to be pretty shit at it. For two, Pleading the fifth whenever you talk to a lie detector is supremely suspicious and will probably end up getting you into trouble, especially after a murder and preceding a VIP event.

 

[Tehemai]

For one, he's known to be pretty shit at it. For two, Pleading the fifth whenever you talk to a lie detector is supremely suspicious and will probably end up getting you into trouble, especially after a murder and preceding a VIP event.

I mean in general, not just MC and not just during the course of this game and not just in relation to murder questions. Vast majority of people would not befriend or interact with mystical lie detectors, no matter the competence level. Especially not people with giant secrets who can't afford such risks. And for the few that do, almost certainly out of some obligation, they would at least have some kind of longstanding policy to make the relationship (colleague/friend/sibling/lover) work. No questions, short statements, keep every statement as broad as possible, written replies, etc.

And mind you to put it into perspective, polygraphs are inaccurate as hell and yet virtually no one would willingly attach themselves to one on a regular basis. People value privacy and do not appreciate things that threaten it. Truthsayers would for sure be stigmatized in some way if they have the inherent ability to expose people's deepest vulnerability. If they do put up with them, they certainly wouldn't be kind. And most likely, the stigma would be far more brutal as unlike most persecution they do have a good reason to hate. The only truthsayer in town would probably need protective detail at all times.

 

[cxx]

So, im currently stuck at the interpreting the vision for the FQ, but i also cant seem to fuck Nell or Primrose, idk where I went wrong.

Help would be appreciated

do I need to do a ng plus, to know how to end?

check walkthrough pdf, if you don't solve it before endgame you are fucked up.

 

[Belle]

I mean in general, not just MC and not just during the course of this game and not just in relation to murder questions. Vast majority of people would not befriend or interact with mystical lie detectors, no matter the competence level. Especially not people with giant secrets who can't afford such risks. And for the few that do, almost certainly out of some obligation, they would at least have some kind of longstanding policy to make the relationship (colleague/friend/sibling/lover) work. No questions, short statements, keep every statement as broad as possible, written replies, etc.

You're applying our own world's moralities and expectations to a fantasy world. Not everything applies equally, and this isn't the only such situation. Truthsayers are an accepted part of society in this particular world and not feared. For the most part, anyway.

In Dickon's specific case, people have little faith in his truthsaying abilities throughout most of this story. The only person with any genuine truthsaying skill in town is (or was, until the arrival of Nell) Merek, and he mostly kept to himself.

Finally, some leeway has to be made to tell a story in a way that isn't frustrating. If everyone treated the MC like a scary outsider, the game wouldn't be much fun. It's similar to how the girls in this game don't really have any trouble with anal sex, for example. Sometimes you just need to gloss over certain aspects of reality in order to be entertaining.

 

[cxx]

well callie didn't have anything against anal (quite opposite) nor nell.

 

[Canto Forte]

Welcome to the church persecution of any and all ney sayers (whitches, warloks, posessed)
Remember that assassin creed games portrayed what inquiry meant in the dark/middle ages:
torture to make the accused ”confess” to whatever the accusing torturer was mouthing.
Church ”inquisitors” - actualy torturers with power and money backed by the vatican,
would rub shoulders with rich philanderers who would get good graces if they stuck around the
torturer and could direct him towards torturing and murdering the opposing philanderer.
Until the torturer set his sights on his ”friends” and then murdered them.

For one, he's known to be pretty shit at it. For two, Pleading the fifth whenever you talk to a lie detector is supremely suspicious and will probably end up getting you into trouble, especially after a murder and preceding a VIP event.

I mean in general, not just MC and not just during the course of this game and not just in relation to murder questions. Vast majority of people would not befriend or interact with mystical lie detectors, no matter the competence level. Especially not people with giant secrets who can't afford such risks. And for the few that do, almost certainly out of some obligation, they would at least have some kind of longstanding policy to make the relationship (colleague/friend/sibling/lover) work. No questions, short statements, keep every statement as broad as possible, written replies, etc.

And mind you to put it into perspective, polygraphs are inaccurate as hell and yet virtually no one would willingly attach themselves to one on a regular basis. People value privacy and do not appreciate things that threaten it. Truthsayers would for sure be stigmatized in some way if they have the inherent ability to expose people's deepest vulnerability. If they do put up with them, they certainly wouldn't be kind. And most likely, the stigma would be far more brutal as unlike most persecution they do have a good reason to hate. The only truthsayer in town would probably need protective detail at all times.

You're applying our own world's moralities and expectations to a fantasy world. Not everything applies equally, and this isn't the only such situation. Truthsayers are an accepted part of society in this particular world and not feared. For the most part, anyway.

In Dickon's specific case, people have little faith in his truthsaying abilities throughout most of this story. The only person with any genuine truthsaying skill in town is (or was, until the arrival of Nell) Merek, and he mostly kept to himself.

Finally, some leeway has to be made to tell a story in a way that isn't frustrating. If everyone treated the MC like a scary outsider, the game wouldn't be much fun. It's similar to how the girls in this game don't really have any trouble with anal sex, for example. Sometimes you just need to gloss over certain aspects of reality in order to be entertaining.

Most of our history is made up of mock trials made by torturers to justify their murder.

 

[Tehemai]

You're applying our own world's moralities and expectations to a fantasy world. Not everything applies equally, and this isn't the only such situation. Truthsayers are an accepted part of society in this particular world and not feared. For the most part, anyway.

In Dickon's specific case, people have little faith in his truthsaying abilities throughout most of this story. The only person with any genuine truthsaying skill in town is (or was, until the arrival of Nell) Merek, and he mostly kept to himself.

Finally, some leeway has to be made to tell a story in a way that isn't frustrating. If everyone treated the MC like a scary outsider, the game wouldn't be much fun. It's similar to how the girls in this game don't really have any trouble with anal sex, for example. Sometimes you just need to gloss over certain aspects of reality in order to be entertaining.

Yea as I said, it's mostly just one peculiarity that stood out in an otherwise enjoyable story. I do think it's more than just a simple issue of fantasy moralities though, as even in fantasy humans tends to react like well... humans. Though not identical, general moralities tend to apply. Like when you tell them you read their diary or spied on them or something, they get distressed as you expect which demonstrates similar notions of personal space. It's even the basis behind the core invade mind mechanic. If they weren't concerned with their secrets being exposed, you'd never get to apply remove inhibitions. The story constantly shows they grasp privacy, hence the expectation is they would understand the constant threat of Truthsayers. Yet they rarely if ever show it.

I do totally get it though. As someone who's tried writing myself, I know that sometimes to make the game work you need to force some ill-fitting pieces together as getting every last one to click just perfectly is near impossible. Especially as more gets added. And the fact that it even sticks out is honestly a positive testament to your world building, as most such games put such little effort that logical consistency isn't even expected. So honestly, I hope you take this more as overall praise.

 

[ajachari]

How to use previous version of save

 

[forrestfreak]

playing this game for a third time. this time fallowing the walkthrough. one of the best, and in my humble opinion, the best game here...

 

[cxx]

How to use previous version of save

just load it.

 

[tuekop]

If there is a free mode/side quest in the future will there be choices to "put dirt in everyone/individual eye"?

 

[gamingdevil800]

If there is a free mode/side quest in the future will there be choices to "put dirt in everyone/individual eye"?

Hello Bully Maguire

 

[JapanFreak]

Made a good Harem ending mod for PC. Does it objectively improve the story? Maybe not. Does it allow for fantasy wish-fulfillment? Hell yes!

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Installation: Extract the archive inside the LongLiveThePrincess-0.xx.x-pc/game folder and delete scripts.rpa
Compatible with game version 0.37.0

Mod: Workupload

Your game folder should look like this after mod installation

is this working with 0.39.1?
PS the walktrouth link is down can someone reupload?

 

[Heri_Hashimoto]

Please help me question: fairy queen vision interpretation
I am stuck here
Please help me
Thanks.

 

[The 1★ Dude]

How to prevent Primrose from getting arrested? I read somewhere, if she gets arrested I get locked out from a relationship with her.

 

[Demiare]

Yea as I said, it's mostly just one peculiarity that stood out in an otherwise enjoyable story. I do think it's more than just a simple issue of fantasy moralities though, as even in fantasy humans tends to react like well... humans. Though not identical, general moralities tend to apply.

You're apply post-game knowledge to common folk.
There are no social medias or ability to "check your stats" for people around you. In small community gossips are shared constantly so everyone is "knowing" that you're some kind of black sheep, trying to learn truth-saying yet don't seems to be good at it. It's too late for them when they're discovering the truth

Overall - most truth-sayers would be perfect interrogators and counter-intelligence agents for local rulers. You would never dare to be rude with someone who can easily send you to jail, isn't it?

Most of "common" magic in this game is subtle so it would have no issues to incorporate in daily lives. Medieval times were a bit different from our - it wasn't strange to seek advice from priest before doing anything important and so witches&spellcasters could easily take this role. Only "greater magic" like teleportation, mind reading, healing, immortality, etc - would change human society notably.

 

[Solomon Grundy]

How to prevent Primrose from getting arrested? I read somewhere, if she gets arrested I get locked out from a relationship with her.

Do what Samara told you to do. Investigate. Look around the scene of the crime. Talk to the only witness. Gather the information you can and go back to Samara and see what she says.

 

[Dongslayer87]

Anyone know how to reach perversity 6? ive tried combing through the comments but its taking too long

 

[WhiteFireDaemon]

Anyone know how to reach perversity 6? ive tried combing through the comments but its taking too long

In order to get to perversity 6, you have to...

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