memelman

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is the project dead?
No, but I don't think it is long for this world.

It is still being worked on but the fact that the last several updates have all been so late point to further development on this game becoming too difficult. I suspect it will soon reach the point where the developer gives up on further development for this game.

Which sucks, as I would at least like to see the paths for the three family members completed, but it is honestly already a pretty large game with a lot of content. It is already quite an accomplishment for a one man dev team.
 
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tretch95

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Well, the first completed Diane archetype path was such a disappointment. After all the drug abuse and depravity, we get "Dommy mommy" and handholding.

Then we can go back to old archetypes, but there's nothing actually new. NPC routine stays the same, just that you can now have sex. If you happen to stumble across the 1-2 occasions where it is even possible, because the woman still locks herself in her room every night after dinner.

And the sex scenes are probably the weakest part of the game. Render quality still looks like concept renders, many of the used models look absolutely awful.

For an "eternal" sandbox game like this, you'd expect some form of replayability of the sex scenes through interactivity. But they're all just the same every time. So all the eternal grind doesn't really get rewarded.


And i don't know why this whole "trans boyfriend" story for the sister couldn't be skipped. It is fucking disgusting and ruined half the game.
 
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And i don't know why this whole "trans boyfriend" story for the sister couldn't be skipped. It is fucking disgusting and ruined half the game.
I've never understood the inclusion of that in SP or Loser either. There can't possibly be much demand for that. What percentage of the population is trans? I don't know but it has to be less than 1%, which leaves the other 99%+ being turned off by it. Seems like a losing strategy to me.

I've always been a super hero fan so that's what got me into the first one, and the trans stuff was entirely avoidable so it was only a minor annoyance to me in that game. I haven't found much interest in SP2 or Loser so far. They're both too grindy for my taste and I find the Unity interface for his new games dramatically inferior to the Renpy interface he had in SP1. Seems like he's taken a step backwards with the 2 new games. I did like his digital card game version of Loser that he has released some demos of. No idea if he's still working on that or not.
 
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tretch95

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I've never understood the inclusion of that in SP or Loser either. There can't possibly be much demand for that. What percentage of the population is trans? I don't know but it has to be less than 1%, which leaves the other 99%+ being turned off by it. Seems like a losing strategy to me.
My guess is that lots of people live in countries or situations where they can't really live their sexuality, so they are willing to pay lots of money for stuff like porn game subscriptions. Anything they can consume secretly at home.

Would be a cheap way to increase subscriber numbers; simply add some "optional" LGBT character(s) and many people just can't resist.

But yeah here in this game, the topic is really rubbed into your face. Supposedly an incest game, but the sister has a relationship with a ladyboy and you're kind of expected to play along.
 
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allanl9020142

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And i don't know why this whole "trans boyfriend" story for the sister couldn't be skipped. It is fucking disgusting and ruined half the game.
I've never understood the inclusion of that in SP or Loser either. There can't possibly be much demand for that. What percentage of the population is trans? I don't know but it has to be less than 1%, which leaves the other 99%+ being turned off by it. Seems like a losing strategy to me.

I've always been a super hero fan so that's what got me into the first one, and the trans stuff was entirely avoidable so it was only a minor annoyance to me in that game. I haven't found much interest in SP2 or Loser so far. They're both too grindy for my taste and I find the Unity interface for his new games dramatically inferior to the Renpy interface he had in SP1. Seems like he's taken a step backwards with the 2 new games. I did like his digital card game version of Loser that he has released some demos of. No idea if he's still working on that or not.
I kind of don't really care one way or the other. I just wished Becky would've had a route similar to Gina's rather than just playing her wingman or something like that. It just uh ... seems like a waste of time but maybe that's what the Patreon supporters wanted, I don't know. Oddly specific requests if that's the case.

Yea, I've kind of taken a hiatus from playing this game. It just takes too much time. I'll either find the time again or the game will be abandoned/finished. Whichever comes first.

That being said, the major reason I'm taking a break is because I spent months writing my own guide for the game, only for a feature for one of the starts to be removed which subsequently demolished my entire step-by-step process. I'll come back to this eventually but I really just don't have the time or energy for it right now.
 
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I've never understood the inclusion of that in SP or Loser either. There can't possibly be much demand for that. What percentage of the population is trans? I don't know but it has to be less than 1%, which leaves the other 99%+ being turned off by it. Seems like a losing strategy to me.
And i don't know why this whole "trans boyfriend" story for the sister couldn't be skipped. It is fucking disgusting and ruined half the game.

Yeah, the lot of you can go fuck yourselves. If you want a game that caters to the straight white male experience, there are literally a hundred thousand on this very site. Coming to the comments one one of the very few that isn't that and bitching about it is about the finest distillation of loser energy that could possibly exist, and look where we are. On a site of amateur porn games, in the comments of a game called Loser, and somehow you still manage to be a disappointment.

That is like dedication.
 

tretch95

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If you want a game that caters to the straight white male experience, there are literally a hundred thousand on this very site
"Hundred thousands" of games which >99.9% are VN / KN. Where all the "gameplay" means hitting the LMB a thousand times or holding down CTRL to see the next scene.

How many games are there with actual player interaction and agenda? Three or five? How many of these are abandoned or merely get updated every 6 to 36 months?

So please don't act like there were many games to choose from. People were lured into this game with the whole management gameplay and the incest, then got shoved a penis into their face.
 
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"Hundred thousands" of games which >99.9% are VN / KN. Where all the "gameplay" means hitting the LMB a thousand times or holding down CTRL to see the next scene.

How many games are there with actual player interaction and agenda? Three or five? How many of these are abandoned or merely get updated every 6 to 36 months?

So please don't act like there were many games to choose from. People were lured into this game with the whole management gameplay and the incest, then got shoved a penis into their face.
Are you kidding? Try Man of The House or pretty much any other Faerin game. Quality stuff with no gay male or trans content. And that's just off the top of my head without looking. Bitching that an under represented element is too much when it's largely nonexistent anywhere else, doesn't strike you as a tad entitled? And you're actually defending this shit take with, "but those other games are bad, so this one should cater exactly to me"? No, no it should not.
 

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"Hundred thousands" of games which >99.9% are VN / KN. Where all the "gameplay" means hitting the LMB a thousand times or holding down CTRL to see the next scene.

How many games are there with actual player interaction and agenda? Three or five? How many of these are abandoned or merely get updated every 6 to 36 months?

So please don't act like there were many games to choose from. People were lured into this game with the whole management gameplay and the incest, then got shoved a penis into their face.
i don't like trans content either, but as you say the amount of actual games with actual game mechanics (not vn bullshit) are really low. so i guess we should appreciate more. besides that its easily skippable.
 

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Funny thing the old superpowered is still playable etc. though i wonder how the cumshots will story-wise not be knocking up anyone in this story, unless the mc is always supposed to come outside or all girls are on perfect pills?..
In superpowered the mc shoots blank white if i remember correctly because of the serum...
 

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I've never understood the inclusion of that in SP or Loser either. There can't possibly be much demand for that. What percentage of the population is trans? I don't know but it has to be less than 1%, which leaves the other 99%+ being turned off by it. Seems like a losing strategy to me.

I've always been a super hero fan so that's what got me into the first one, and the trans stuff was entirely avoidable so it was only a minor annoyance to me in that game. I haven't found much interest in SP2 or Loser so far. They're both too grindy for my taste and I find the Unity interface for his new games dramatically inferior to the Renpy interface he had in SP1. Seems like he's taken a step backwards with the 2 new games. I did like his digital card game version of Loser that he has released some demos of. No idea if he's still working on that or not.
Maybe there is lower demand in numbers, it does not mean that this strategy is a losing one. Obviously the dev is going to upgrade the game with the stuff that people not only asked, but also donated for. I don't think that pleasing the straight non-donating majority is of highest priority here. People often take free access to such games for granted.
 
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