Ren'Py Lustful Desires [v0.75.1.G] [Hyao]

[nackedsnake]

Oh Im not saying that he should change it, its already to late for that, thankfully StanG is the one that actualy editing ZoroJ sprites and preserving original his original style, examples are Maskless Tank, Orc wrestling sprites, nude Korg, Everett new emotes and etc., instead of complitely making new one that might have big difference from original.
The complete overhaul of old stuff are helps for a new artist to have less comparison with old ones since new coming pople will see only new stuff and wouldnt know about old one and wouldnt be camparing and overtime it would die down.
Something that heppened for ExAc where people initialy were complaining about Ger being new artist but overtime moved on, and it was the best choice for VN since it become alot better and production quality rose up since artist were incredibly invested in the game. So I hope that not sprite replacement but game itself will get alot more quality content and visuals to acompany it since the team would be more invested in the project and not just Hyao and Virile. But from the last few update I already see rise in the quality, like Virile content with Maul and Barrel, like Brimscorch Black Wolf content, upcoming Croc village with new NPC that actualy look realy good since Naram actualy drew them in his own style instead of trying to mimic ZoroJ style like it was with Furry island part, so it deffinitely coming together for better

You can not stop people from comparing, nor stop them dis-engage because of it.
But when I said "It doesn't matter", it means "It doesn't matter": no need to worry about them, no need to make any decision based on them, they are not your concern anymore.

Quantity does Not Equal Quality.
You can't simply say "Oh they are producing contents quicker so it's better", "Oh there are more artist drawing so it's better." That's not why LD is getting better. What LD achieved at this stage is not as simple as that.
They live and learn and making good choices along the way, from multiple-front. Like working as a team that everyone is committed, like letting Narram draw what he's good at, like letting StanG inspire the team in his own way, like only using people who respect the source / the origin, like not doing commission based arts, like using different writer but not just "Guest writer who only want to self-insert", etc.
To be fair, there are still quite some fumbles, but it seems they are learning from it.

It's not because "it's too late" that they shouldn't change the arts. It's never too late to make correction, IF there's correction needed. ZoroJ's arts are not "mistakes" that needs "Correction".

Not sure what's the production value of old ExAc under CM, But Pretty sure they didn't willingly change the artist because "it's for the better". That's a different situation from LD.

 

[aseknospam]

You can not stop people from comparing, nor stop them dis-engage because of it.
But when I said "It doesn't matter", it means "It doesn't matter": no need to worry about them, no need to make any decision based on them, they are not your concern anymore.

Quantity does Not Equal Quality.
You can't simply say "Oh they are producing contents quicker so it's better", "Oh there are more artist drawing so it's better." That's not why LD is getting better. What LD achieved at this stage is not as simple as that.
They live and learn and making good choices along the way, from multiple-front. Like working as a team that everyone is committed, like letting Narram draw what he's good at, like letting StanG inspire the team in his own way, like only using people who respect the source / the origin, like not doing commission based arts, like using different writer but not just "Guest writer who only want to self-insert", etc.
To be fair, there are still quite some fumbles, but it seems they are learning from it.

It's not because "it's too late" that they shouldn't change the arts. It's never too late to make correction, IF there's correction needed. ZoroJ's arts are not "mistakes" that needs "Correction".

Not sure what's the production value of old ExAc under CM, But Pretty sure they didn't willingly change the artist because "it's for the better". That's a different situation from LD.

Im not saying that its become better cuz of the amount of new stuff, Im saying that the amount increases due to better work flow and people finaly got to be on their spot where they are alot more comfortable are, Virile working on Maul and Barrel stuff, Hyao working on stuff that his mood leads to, Narram working on enemy sprites and furry based character in his personal style so he wouldn't have to suffer again to be compared to previous artist, and Stan working on CGs, editing old sprites and making new human based sprites, which leads to alot better productivity and quality of the stuff since everyone works on the stuff they are more comfortable in, sad that it took so long, but its deffinitely getting on the high up trigectory with a promise of it getting steady in terms of production, which Im realy happy for them

 

[aseknospam]

What I hope is that Hyao would reconsider and change his mind about YCH silhouettes in CGs, so we can get more CGs like these to be added to the game, maybe even getting something for a Logan sex scene in the forrest

 

[Zorrscha]

Sorry but what he is in wrong here? From what I understan ZoroJ left on his own accord and decided not explain reasoning behind it, so either originaly he was invested in the game in the begining so he was thrilled to have his character to be in the game and overtime either understood that he cant handle the pressure of being artist for the game since he cant draw what he specificaly prefer or simply lost interest, there is nothing wrong to have someone character to be part in the game as long as they agree that the only thing they provide is the visual but the lore of that character and personality can be different

He was 100% in the wrong, he didn't inform patrons ZoroJ was no longer going to be part of the project, didn't give a clear reason or if he was going to be back at some point he baited people because he knew that loads of fans would of dropped it if they found out

 

[rothi]

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[aseknospam]

He was 100% in the wrong, he didn't inform patrons ZoroJ was no longer going to be part of the project, didn't give a clear reason or if he was going to be back at some point he baited people because he knew that loads of fans would of dropped it if they found out

As far as I know originaly both side said that it was temporary hiatus, but it turned out to be everlasting one, so I wouldnt put full blame on dev if artist said he need a break and never comes back being silent on that matter, even till this day, cuz if it was a bait it could have been easily disproved by artist himself but he also keeping everyone else in the silence, so this is only your assumption based on your own negative feeling toward one side, where I can say same about the other side, who left project due to not being able to handle it, and leave it to deal for themself in the dark without knowing if he will comeback or not, so we will never know the truth about what was the reason and who was in the wrong here, since both side keeping their silence about that matter
And as far as I remember he did inform about ZoroJ taking a break, so if ZoroJ said that he will comeback but never did whos fault is that huh?

 

[kappamikey5]

any got a save file so I can see the new barrel scene?

 

[Zorrscha]

As far as I know originaly both side said that it was temporary hiatus, but it turned out to be everlasting one, so I wouldnt put full blame on dev if artist said he need a break and never comes back being silent on that matter, even till this day, cuz if it was a bait it could have been easily disproved by artist himself but he also keeping everyone else in the silence, so this is only your assumption based on your own negative feeling toward one side, where I can say same about the other side, who left project due to not being able to handle it, and leave it to deal for themself in the dark without knowing if he will comeback or not, so we will never know the truth about what was the reason and who was in the wrong here, since both side keeping their silence about that matter
And as far as I remember he did inform about ZoroJ taking a break, so if ZoroJ said that he will comeback but never did whos fault is that huh?

Because we'd already established ZoroJ wasn't "officially" part of the project he was commissioned for the art so why would he have to state if he was no longer doing the art? It's a developers job to keep paying patreons informed and updated about the status of the game, Extracurricular Activities dev did when CursedMarked left the project because it's common courtesy for the people who have been supporting it thus far.

 

[rothi]

Does anyone know how to get 2 hearts with Rhot?

 

[GoldenStag]

Does anyone know how to get 2 hearts with Rhot?

You have to do his "other kind of contest" event and choose "Make him a pet" and then "Do your best" and when you talk to him about the contest reward, choose "Good boy"

 

[Icekingchernobog]

So has the dev completely shifted over to exclusive dad bod++ content in this game?

i mean majority of the men are dad bod from the beginning.

 

[rothi]

You have to do his "other kind of contest" event and choose "Make him a pet" and then "Do your best" and when you talk to him about the contest reward, choose "Good boy"

Thanks, hadn't done that one yet.

 

[Bluestorm99]

What I hope is that Hyao would reconsider and change his mind about YCH silhouettes in CGs, so we can get more CGs like these to be added to the game, maybe even getting something for a Logan sex scene in the forrest

If this scene did get added I would like to see the orc brutes penetrating the MC in the CG too because the scene did describe different types of orcs during the orc slut scene.

 

[Baralover001]

orc lure is used for taming orcs right so you can see them in the prison

 

[ezram]

How can i see the gallery? it says its the gallery version but i cant see it.

 

[aseknospam]

Because we'd already established ZoroJ wasn't "officially" part of the project he was commissioned for the art so why would he have to state if he was no longer doing the art? It's a developers job to keep paying patreons informed and updated about the status of the game, Extracurricular Activities dev did when CursedMarked left the project because it's common courtesy for the people who have been supporting it thus far.

The difference is with CM and Dyne thy parted ways complitely and right away, with ZoroJ it was complitely different if ZoroJ said he wanted to take a break and comeback to the project but he never did for some reason, which he himself decided to be silenced on and ignore all the question about it and about anything that are related to LD ( that include even simple thank you post that Hyao did about him on social media which he complitely ignore ), so getting distanced from the project was his decidion and not Hyao, so I would give benefit of the doubt to the dev about him being in the dark too and hoped that he would turn around when he will feel like it when he being ignored even in those cases

 

[aseknospam]

If this scene did get added I would like to see the orc brutes penetrating the MC in the CG too because the scene did describe different types of orcs during the orc slut scene.

I doubt since people being whiny about their "immersion" being ruined by not being able to focus on the characters and not the dummy

 

[nackedsnake]

What I hope is that Hyao would reconsider and change his mind about YCH silhouettes in CGs, so we can get more CGs like these to be added to the game, maybe even getting something for a Logan sex scene in the forrest

Let's get it straight, You are not saying "ideally they should replace ZoroJ's art". Cuz That's not right and Hyao agrees: ZoroJ is LD's face.

But you wish they retroactively adding more arts into old scenes, with YCH silhouettes? then it's debatable option.
I agree it's better if they add more arts, if it's feasible.
But I don't agree silhouettes CG is a "Better choice".
Not only cuz of "immersion breaking" (Tho it's still a factor for many people), I find this type of CG very limiting and lacking, lacking in details, lacking in dynamics, lacking in refinement, also it often hinders the scene writing.

TBC, Hyao doesn't give a clear statement about ZoroJ IS the basic Courtesy. It indicates there are more complications than meet the eye that could be talked about.
Or it's simply cuz Hyao is also in the dark Till this day, like you said,
And it doesn't matter anymore since the project is already moved on, for the better.

Like I said again and again, it doesn't matter. The dev doesn't "owe" any explanation to those still salty.
Patreons of Work In Progress Project are not "Paid customers", they subscribe to financially support it.
They are Not entitled to the whole game to be as they wish to be, "Work In Progress Project" means anything could change along the line.

 

[aseknospam]

Let's get it straight, You are not saying "ideally they should replace ZoroJ's art". Cuz That's not right and Hyao agrees: ZoroJ is LD's face.

But you wish they retroactively adding more arts into old scenes, with YCH silhouettes? then it's debatable option.
I agree it's better if they add more arts, if it's feasible.
But I don't agree silhouettes CG is a "Better choice".
Not only cuz of "immersion breaking" (Tho it's still a factor for many people), I find this type of CG very limiting and lacking, lacking in details, lacking in dynamics, lacking in refinement, also it often hinders the scene writing.

TBC, Hyao doesn't give a clear statement about ZoroJ IS the basic Courtesy. It indicates there are more complications than meet the eye that could be talked about.
Or it's simply cuz Hyao is also in the dark Till this day, like you said,
And it doesn't matter anymore since the project is already moved on, for the better.

Like I said again and again, it doesn't matter. The dev doesn't "owe" any explanation to those still salty.
Patreons of Work In Progress Project are not "Paid customers", they subscribe to financially support it.
They are Not entitled to the whole game to be as they wish to be, "Work In Progress Project" means anything could change along the line.

Thats why its idealy statement about replacement since at current moment its simply not possible, but it always better for consistancy sake, if we looking at it as serious project, but as I said its not possible with this one tho its the idealistic solution for any project that are non that deep and not havee huge amount of assets and ofc its always better for artusit that gonna be working on it so they wouldnt have to try and force themself to adjust to previous artists that work on it, pure example of Narram, where he tries to produce works that mimic original artist and they flop miserably, which is the worst mistake that could have been done that damaged his mentaly from all the comparison that he had to see happening in open, but its pointless talk since it was just an example of "perfect" outcome for all that involved and not realistic one for this project.
And in regards silhouettes it gives option to have visual for the scenes that directly involves MC which in turn gives player to see their favorite characters again, cuz due to MC not having design players are limited to the scenes where they see any action either from the side, or exposition shots where MC are not part of the focus, so any interpersonal moments of MC interacting with anyone directly are thrown out of water in visual aspects, especialy one on one scenes with player especialy where MC on bottom side, cuz how many more you can draw character staring at you intently while "fucking" you, or showing of their ass for top MCs, that tendency is easily spoted at the amount of CGs where MC has nothing to do with it like all bottom Logan CGs, Everett, BW CGs

 

[Baralover001]

hope to see new content for nameless orgramm khalgor groth korg orak ste bernard logan hayden blake harold alden arrion black wolf dulrig bowen booner brugo caleb and all the other characters in the game that doesnt have a new content yet